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July 7th (Friday)
- You have until 2 AM EST tomorrow (or midnight tonight, Mountain Time) to join GOD! No, not God, but GOD! You will then get 25% of your spend back! This offer ends tonight/tomorrow morning, depending on your location. If you wish more info and a link to GOD, but not God, then here it is. Compounding is still available and GOD is paying! Now your prayers are answered and you can actually get money from GOD, but not God. I think you get it by now. Right?
- By now you know that the Adsense Templates have sold out! (Although you will get another chance if you still use the link and submit your contact info. In fact they sold out before I got back from swimming! So am glad my daughter was patient while I spent the time to pay for them and download them). It took me a half hour to figure out what to do and how to do it to get the first template site published (the instructions are via video, so that was great). So here is my first site using the templates: http://travel.9planetreviews.com Have a quick look. This is how I will begin to make some nice bucks using Google Adsense.
- I’ve just put up my second Adsense site in just under 15 minutes. Took me some time to find a better background. I thought snow was much more appropriate than the ugly brown background that the template came with. Here is my new site: http://allinclusiveresorts.9planetreviews.com/
Why am I choosing Travel sites to put up? Because besides Porn sites, Travel is likely the #1 type of site that makes money on the ‘net.
- Don’t open the e-mail that contains a picture of O(((((sa(((ma B***i***n L###a$%den. It contains a virus.
- I am reprinting the following review because a) I used the wrong referral URL before, and b) I think it’s a good risk:
dd GlobalPensionPlan
http://202.76.235.46/?id=kookoo
Am going to review this one shortly. For now... join up! I have it on good authority that it's a good one!
“The Global pension Plan is based on mortgaging a pension insurance contract and is similar to property mortgaging when using the property itself as a collateral. The policy is a legally binding agreement given by a reputable insurance company. My subscribers have assured me that this is an established technique used by the rich to become even more rich!
It costs a one time $35. At some stage they plan to change this to 30 Euro, which is a slight increase, so now is the time to join!
Amazingly you stand to receive $55,000 with no extra costs involved. The only snag is that they have to get membership up to 100,000 before the payout can occur. So join in and tell your friends! You will receive $2000 for each person that you introduce! (at some point) But only after the 100,000 is reached. There's also an active forum.
Go to: http://202.76.235.46/?id=kookoo
Cost just $35 E-gold.
Please use kookoo as your referrer.”
- Daily11Surf will soon be adding the VM card as a payout option. I better hurry and get mine! I’ve been lazy about that.
There are also reports that they are paying out very quickly (within 24 hours and even less). I just hope they don’t get into trouble like 13DailyPro did around this!
- dd ezsurfnearn.com
# Advertiser Benefits Earn 9% for manually viewing 15 ads daily for 14 days. (That's 26% profit in 14 days or 1.86% profit per day [not ROI]).
# Minimum purchase is $5.
# Maximum purchase is $1,000.
# 3% referral commission.
# Advertise up to 10 ads or promotions.
# 15 second timer.
# Manual surfbar
# View a maximum of 50 ads daily.
# Run a maximum of 2 advertising packages at 1 time.
# Automatic payouts after expiration.
http://www.ezsurfnearn.com/?ref=86
Here is what my sponsor says about it:
"Added quite promising looking new program EzSurfnEarn that launched just week ago. Program is run by Stacey Hensley and Jason Grant who are both from USA and already earned quite positive reputation by running low risk autosurf program wicked-hits. Jason is not hiding his personal info in domain registration records and is quite responsive in communication with members. Program itself has quite good setup of medium risk ROI with low refs commissions but enough to keep members motivated to promote and the usual limitations of 2 ad packs at once with payouts after expiry. Manual surfing makes ads in this program quite valuable and script seems quite modified from the standard one."
He says they don't hide their registration, but... they do! They are behind the godaddy proxy! Sure, Jason's name is there, but that's about it. I guess I'll have to take my upline's word for it. But, I will do some more DD below.
So I went to godaddy and asked him for more info on Jason Grant. Here's an address:
242 N Willow
Erwin, Tennessee 37650
United States
Let's check that out via goodle maps: sure enough, we have a hit! It exits.
OK, now let's check if they are running on a dedicated server or not: reverse IP says: two websites there. The other is wickedringdblr.com, and that's a failed Doubler (well, they all fail). My sponsor mentions them running a previous surf programme: wicked-hits, but I see they also ran a doubler. Oh oh, that doubler? It's going to be launched "very soon". Am I revealing something they have under wraps? If so, too bad, because launching a doubler right now or some time soon is foolish. Very foolish.
There are no listings in Alexa for it (the cycler), so they have not yet launched it. Hmmmmm... they say that this doubler will close in five days, then those who lost will get entered into the next cycle of the doubler. Sorry, I don't think this will work. Ok, so we're getting offtopic here, but I am uncomfortable to see that they are going to launch a cycler. And their concept is not unique. During the doubler/cycler days when I was the reviewer at 1WorldDoublers I really pissed on these guys that launched a cycler that was closed down every Friday, records were wiped, and they'd start the whole thing over again. Planned death of a cycler! Of course Jason here plans to move the losers up to the top of the list, so they can recoup their money and there will be new losers, moved to the head of the list... how long will this go on? So you're getting two reviews in one, even before the second one comes out!
I would say that it is, right now, a medium to high risk to join the surf proramme (which is only about a week old), but I would be HIGHLY cautious to join their cycler, or Cybler as they call it, when it launches. Of course those of you in first, will likely win, provided the money you put in is not TOO large.
There is no appreciable traffic at ezsurfnearn.com, at least if there is any then it is below the Alexa.com radar.
A note to Jason: Jason? Am just doing my Due Diligence, that's how I found your second site. I hope you will not be too upset if I've already said a few things about it. I do have to protect my readers after all.
ezsurfnearn.com resolves to 208.109.22.189
Domain Whois Results:
Registrant:
Jason Grant
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: EZSURFNEARN.COM
Domain servers in listed order:
NS5.THESE-R-WINNERS.NET
NS6.THESE-R-WINNERS.NET
July 6th (Thursday)
- Good morning world! My daughter, with the permission of her Mom is staying with me a whole week or more. But have no fear, Kyra is letting me do some work during the morning, afternoon, and evening. So here we go, my first review of this morning: I have chosen one that is being advertised right now and the advert is even right now sitting in your e-mail box, waiting for you to succumb to it’s siren call:
“dd easygoldshares.com
These folks claim that they trade in Mini-Forex. Mini-Forex is similar to full ForEx trading but the minimum amount is $300 and there is up to a 200:1 leverage. (But you can still lose your entire balance).
So if these folks are for real, then they are just a feeder fund into Mini-Forex as the recommended minimum amount for any one account is about $2000.
Now if you cannot afford $2000 to start out with, this is why you would join a group such as easygoldshares.com. But are they legit, honest, and won't run with our money?
Let's see: Due Diligence (DD):
Server is located in Bangkok, Thailand. Oh oh. Why would someone register the website in California and then run it out of Thailand? Unless they are based in Thailand? Bangkok. That city is rife with scams and scammers of all types, offline and online (those of you in Thailand reading this, please do not take offense, and not saying you’re a scammer.).
So would I trust some organization in Thailand to collect our money and invist in Mini-Forex for us? Ask yourself. Would you?
Ooooooh, and look at the Black List status! Blacklisted 21 times on 21 separate days at sbl.spamhaus.org.
There are four other sites on the same server. Looks like a German site, a Russian site registered in Moscow, also blacklisted (but no content yet). The others are not coming up. Actually, feels like this is a private server, perhaps owned by the Admin of easygoldshares.com.
One more thing I just caught: the name (domain name servers, that dish out the IP address when the site is accessed via it's DOMAIN NAME) are on the same server, but have the comrus.net moniker/domain name! And comrus.net is registered in Moscow, Russia!
So in conclusion: easygoldshares is most likely a scam and it they are easy gold shares for the Admin and not for us! (Of course I could be wrong! But am now pretty sure it's a scam run out of Moskva, with servers in Thailand.)
easygoldshares.com resolves to 203.147.62.137
Thailand - Krung Thep Mahanakhon - Bangkok
Domain Whois Results:
=-=-=-=
Registration Service Provided By: NameCheap.com
Contact: support@NameCheap.com
Visit: http://www.namecheap.com/
Domain name: easygoldshares.com
Registrant Contact:
WhoisGuard
WhoisGuard Protected (90acab59f0404382be56f0a8f5dffbf2.protect@whoisguard.com)
+1.6613102107
Fax: +1.6613102107
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
Westchester, CA 90045
US
Name Servers:
ns1.comrus.net
ns2.comrus.net
Creation date: 29 Jun 2006 10:59:47
Expiration date: 29 Jun 2007 10:59:47 (They don’t plan to be around for more than a year!)
- AlertPayPro: yes, it’s ready. Many changes and so on. But... I don’t like this one. Just a gut feel. I especially don’t like all these Fees:
“Fees:
4% deposit fee, you choose your cashout timeframe and fee. 1% a day membership
fee for members with less then $100 worth of ad-packs. $1.00 a day for members
with more then $100 worth of ad-packs. The e-currency exchange is set at a 4%
exchange rate. Transferring earnings to cashbalance (compounding?) can be done
once every 15days for a 10% fee.”
What is this? A Bank? In any case, you can read the full announcement at DrunkOnLife’s BLOG (link up top). Am not playing in this one.
- Well I have looked for any negative info on Daily11surf and NowDollar but can’t seem to find any. So..... am going to upgrade today with some serious funds in both of these, even though I have upgrades going there already (I just don’t want to wait... get that money while they’re hot!). Use the Reviews link/button up top to see a review of both.
- OK, I don’t have much time to say anything about this yet as I have to go out swimming with Kyra, my daughter, but I just put in $297 USD into this: http://www.1shoppingcart.com/app/?Clk=1495797 It’s a bunch of ready to go Adsense templates that will allow me to build an Adsense Empire and start earning some good cash on a monthly autopilot basis! Check it out! They will be sold out today! Pretty sure of that. Well, gotta go!
- m8rich.biz pre-launch (at $8) is now extended to July 13th. Here is the Admin’s announcement:
“Due to a high number of emails requesting for an extension of the pre-launch period, the management of m8rich.biz decided to extend the 50% less on joining fee for another week. A lot of inactive members are still having problems "funding" their egold account and others are just got back from holidays. Membership fee is still $8 and the pre-launch period will end on July 13, 2006.
P.S.
M8Rich.BIZ would like to congratulate everyone for making this program explode these past few days. In spite of weekends and holidays, we still rocked the industry. We are wishing good luck and success to everyone who have joined in the past days and to those incoming members.
Keep up the good work m8s! Let's continue rocking...
All active members now you can access the 500 Fresh Leads page. From there, you can get your 500 Fresh Leads now and start contacting and inviting them to join our program. We hope that this will help every member to make their network grow faster. Please, just don't spam those leads as we don't tolerate SPAMMING.
More exciting news to come.. we will keep you updated.
To your success,
- The management -”
- Here is a sales letter than one of the Shop Right referrers uses (for my review of Shop Right use the Reviews button up top then do a Ctrl-F on Shop Right):
“It is almost 1 a.m. Thursday morning but I wanted you to read this...very good...and...very funny.
We are going to put Don Jacobs testimonial on our home page tomorrow....it is great....read it you will love it.
THIS IS A MARKETER'S DREAM.....JUST HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU WANT TO EARN? Anyone can market this...just based on the following statement. "Wouldn't you like to receive a check EVERY MONTH from now on from your SHOP RIGHT Bonus Pool earnings, and you don't have to recruit anyone? SHOP RIGHT puts you INDIRECTLY in the Oil & Gas exploration business. Then on top of everything else SHOP RIGHT offers you a 100% buy-back guarantee if you are not 100% satisfied after one year." DAH! Folks, this is a no-brainier...ABSOLUTELY nothing to lose AND...ABSOLUTELY everything to gain!
..
There is so much more with the SHOP RIGHT opportunity but that statement tells it all. If you are a marketer then your dream opportunity has just arrived. If that isn't the absolute end-all for creating positive results then the SHOP RIGHT Home Page certainly is, because all I have to do is tell my prospects to review everything on the Home Page, because all the information on that page makes everyone want to be a part of this fantastic opportunity. Just let the GUARANTEE and the HOME PAGE do all the selling of this one-of-a-kind business. A BLIND MAN WITH 3 TOES CAN MARKET THIS PROGRAM.
I've only been in SHOP RIGHT for a short time and I've earned well over 10 times more than this business cost me and I've never got YESES as easy as I have with this business.
..
Don Jacobs, Ohio”
July 5th (Wednesday)
- The COOP for SuccessUniversity by TrafficSwarm owner has not yet started because it is not wise to start a major campaign during the slowest week/weekend of the year: 4th of July week. Good news is that the COOP is not huge in membership size, hence we should expect some nice signups once it gets going.
- VIPinv.com is really picking up as a favorite HYIP out there. Read my full review by clicking on the Reviews button up top then do a Ctrl-F on VIPinv. I give it 95% out of 100%.
- Not to worry, reviews and such will pick within the coming days. Things just have slowed down during the slowest week/weekend this year!
- I’ve told you all quite a few times that there is nothing solid about SolidInvestment.com as it is a scam run by an infamous Ukranian scammer. Am just surprised he has run this thing so long. I guess he wanted to collect the max before going away. And July 3rd has come and gone. Admin is warning folks not to log in if they don’t want to exacerbate the fake problem he’s set up. Am pretty sure of it. Let’s hope am wrong on this for your sake.
- AdTitans is kaput. See DrunkOnlife’s BLOG for a good summary of what went on according tot he Admin. Also read the EMO post there, if you had funds in EMO.
- I won’t bother reviewing MSNsurf, and I doubt Microsoft would have left them standing for long, what with the use of MSN in their name! In any case, apparently they are not paying.
- Recall Shop Right? The folks that let you buy one or more shares in the Oil Business? And they have an 80% success rate in drilling? Well, if you buy at least one share you will be qualified to earn in for the last quarter. Click on the Reviews button up top and Ctrl-F on Shop Right. Tonight there is an important call:
“Ace Marketing Tools Wednesday Night Call.
Tonight's call is at 9:30pm Eastern Time.
Conference Call #: 641-793-7500, PIN: 736913#
Tonight's call is important, dont miss it.
Sincerely,
Affiliates Manager
Shop Right:
- PointShareXtreme is “sorting” the debit cards and helping the bank transition to electronic acceptance of documents. If you have NOT received an e-mail from Admin, and have sent in your documents, then you’re OK. All we can do now is wait.
July 4th (Tuesday)
- For those of you celebrating July 4th: Happy July 4th!
- There will likely be no updates today as am spending the day with my daughter. Cheers!
July 3rd (Monday)
- NowDollar and Daily11surf: Both of these allow you to request more than one cashout per month. So take advantage of that. I just did. In one case it was just two dollars above the amount I put in, and in the other about half way there. It’s a good idea to do this.... just in case something unforeseen happens!
- If you have a good list then you can make some good money. But what’s good? Good does not mean large. Good means responsive and targetted. Good means a list of people that want to get information from you, regularly. So here is a site that offers a very good course on how to go about building such a list.
- Wow! Am getting a LOT of requests for the water/prayer/meditation/energy/miracles ... thing. I may have to put that into an autoresponder! Ok, just did. Request the info.
- I have adopted a letter sent out by Derek Bohlken to his downline. Why? Because everything he says... I agree with! And I have that free lifestyle right now. Tomorrow, in fact, am visiting my daughter again, she's just 2 hours away. And all I have to do is surf NowDollar and Daily11Surf before I go and see her. We will then swim in the waters off of Tobermory, go out for some unhealthy food, just hang out and then come back to Owen Sound, stay over night, and then she leaves for Aylmer, Qeuebec. Normally I could not do this, as I would be tied to a job and vacation cannot be taken on a whim. So here we go:
"I posted this a couple of years ago but someone just contacted me because they found it re-published in someone's blog, and since this is the 2nd slowest week for business of the year, I'm going to repost it now (although tomorrow is probably a good day to reach people):
Someone recently mentioned to me that we are not doing as much to motivate people in this group as we did in the past. The main reason for that is that I have learned over the last couple of years that motivation must come from within. Every one of you who truly wants to succeed in this business is taking action and making it happen on a regular basis. All of you want to succeed, but those of you who are truly motivated will succeed.
When I joined, my enroller canceled the following week. I did not have someone to "support" or motivate me. I decided that it was the right business for me and his decision to cancel was his decision - it did not affect me in any way. My motivation was my daily life not being what I wanted it to be, and every day of my existence was a new reminder that I must succeed in improving my situation, and I had decided that this business was the best way to accomplish that.
I have people that come to me asking me to motivate them, or they ask me what I am going to do for them so that they will be successful. I do things to help people all the time, but I can't make you build your business and ultimately, though it is reasonable to expect help, it is up to you whether you succeed or not.
There are very few people on earth who are truly content with their personal situation. It is ironic that those who can afford the things in life that they want are those that usually do not have the time to enjoy it. In other words, most people either do not have the financial viability to travel, to live comfortably without having to worry about their personal finances or to provide their families with everything they wish to provide. Those that do have the financial ability to do those things usually work so hard that they do not have the time to enjoy them.
I was listening to a radio talk show today. The host is nationally syndicated and very likely makes a high six figure salary (or more) and he was proudly describing his hi-def entertainment system set up in his basement. He was obviously very proud of it and went on to talk about how all of the games and movies he has bought for it are still in the cellophane because he is always working. He also spoke proudly of his two young daughters, but then mentioned that he sees them about two hours per week. This man makes a great salary and can provide his family with material goods, but is he happy?
My daughter has a friend that comes to play frequently, and she (and other friends of my two kids) are always amazed that both of their parents - my wife and I - are home and have the free time to play with them. The one girl, who is her at my house as I write this playing with my daughter, has two parents that work, but she has never been on a family vacation, had never been to a movie until she went with us recently, and has never "played" with her parents. Those parents have never played a game or anything else with their children. They are too busy trying to survive week to week. That's the way a lot of people are and that is the way I used to be. It's not their fault, but it's not a good way to live.
My point? Think about all the ways within your reach of improving your quality of life, and I think you will find that there is not a better way than being a member of Success University [edited by js, see the Reviews page for the link and review] - as a customer and user of the services, and as a representative making a residual monthly income. For most people, there really is no other way. You should want this for yourself and others in your family and warm market, and if you think about the difference between success and failure (taking consistent action, calling leads, etc.) you should be willing and eager to do what it takes to succeed because it is worth it, and it will be life changing in every positive way."
js
- Some depressing news!
“The end of the world is not nigh.
Asteroid 2004 XP14 has whizzed past the Earth.
The half a kilometre wide asteroid missed Earth by about half a million kilometres.
Rob McNaught, an astronomer at the Australian National University's Mt Stromlo observatory, says that is close enough to be deemed an official "near miss".
"The asteroid keeps coming round and round and the fact that it can come so close on this occasion means it can potentially come significantly close on future occasions,"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200607/s1677792.htm ”
July 2nd (Sunday)
- Quiet day. Must do some cleaning. Have a nice day!
- Wow, m8rich is working out just great, even before they have launched! I now have $12 back on my $8! So am in profit. Here is my play link.
- The benefactor for OurPowerForcedMatrix has another $5000 for use in benefactoring members for their first month’s signup at OPFM! So... investigate and sign up, what’s to lose? Once you have signed up, send your ID (and those of your friends, once they have signed up) to this address (just remove the blanks).
- If this text appears too small then use Ctrl+ to increase the font size, Ctrl- to decrease it, and Ctrl0 (CtrlZero) to set it back to its original format (default).
- 7DollarsMagic has not been listed on the Reviews Page. Please sign in, if you are a 9PR owner and add your own ID under Programs there, and ensure you check that check box!
- This is good advice not only for those of you who have joined me in SuccessUniversity, but for everyone else who has a dream and is willing to do some work!
“#1 Go through every step in the get started check list in the back office of Success University and review your boot camps.
#2 Go through each step on our TEAM TRAINING SITE which is www.successuniversity.com and make sure to register for the Team Forum
#3 Go through the forum discussions and learn as much as you can.
#4 Go to the topic of Paid Promotion in the Forum and know that their is an opportunity to participate in a team Co-op to help drive traffic to your site
#5 Start to develop your mindset!!! Learn this phrase- ACT AS IF!! ACT AS IF YOU ARE A MASTER NETWORKER AND IT WOULD BE A PRIVILEGE FOR ANY ONE TO PARTNER UP WITH YOU IN SUCCESS UNIVERSITY. When you say things like: I don't know anything, I cant get two people on board because I don't know anyone or I don’t know how to market, or this only works for people that can spend hours upon hours working the business; you are self proclaiming your failure in the business. You have to speak the opposite of this and stay 100% positive.
The reason I’m a leader in Success University, the reason I have gained a level of Success, and why I’m just now starting to really realize my dreams is I never listened to any of my the negative friends, family members, and other people that continued to quit around me. Everyday I kept telling myself that If I stuck with this each week maybe not everyday, but if I just kept on keeping on, I would someday have the experience I need to be Successful in my own business in the network marketing business. Remember most successful people have spent years working on themselves through self development. You look at all the great athletes, they practice day after day. This business is the exact same thing!
What you put into yourself is what you will get out of it!”
- I decided to do a review today based on a request:
dd maxincome.net
Looks like a fake registration. For security reasons usually.
Server is in St. Louis MO, USA. Nothing strange about that.
Now let's take a look at how many websites on there and if they are suspicious: 61 websites on that one server!
"All upgrades via E-Gold during July 1st - July 4th from amount $50 and more will be doubled, and from $250 and more will be tripled!" They are trying to bolster the take-in during the slow months, as it looks like they started in late May... and traffic is waning, so hence the promo. And a crazy promo it is. Red flag right away, especially as they have no real background, unlike GOD (but not God, just GOD).
Oh oh. That's quite a promise! How can they afford that? So if I put in $250 they will give me 3 x 250 = 750? Wow! But what's the underlying product or scheme to support that? At least with GOD we know that they buy all kinds of crap and sell it on eBay for good money! So what do these guys have? ForEx, futures, etc.? All risky and can't produce the ROIs they calim, persistently.
The FAQs show the standard HYIP bullshit, sorry, kielbasa.
"Who manages the funds?
These funds are managed by a team of MaxIncome Forex, Futures and Option trading experts."
From the front page after you scroll down:
" * Free $8 Signup Bonus!
*
* Earning plans
i. 8% daily for 30 days (240% monthly) for upgrades from $8 to $49
ii. 16% daily for 30 days (480% monthly) for upgrades from $50 to $249
iii. 24% daily for 30 days (720% monthly) for upgrades from $250 to $900!
*
* 20% referral commissions
*
* weekly payouts
*
* accept E-gold, 1mdc, Pecunix "
Wow! From a 140% profit in one month to 620% Profit in one month! And they are into Forex, Futures, and option trading? Cough! Tastes like baloney. Sorry, don't know these admin, don't know when they will run, and so can't trust this one to last much longer. Even thought the referral commissions are quite good (20%) and can net me some good money, I can't recommend them!
The rating sites are useless! All they do is list the programme and if it is paying or not! No real comments! Folks? I smell a scam.
js
maxincome.net resolves to 69.64.40.55
Domain Whois Results:
Registrant:
N/A:jz7a06au
404 Main Street
4th Floor
Boonton, NJ 07005
US
Domain name: MAXINCOME.NET
Administrative Contact:
Default Profile, - support@registerfly.com
404 Main Street
4th Floor
Boonton, NJ 07005
US
9737362545 Fax: 9737361355
Technical Contact:
Default Profile, - support@registerfly.com
404 Main Street
4th Floor
Boonton, NJ 07005
US
9737362545 Fax: 9737361355
Registrar of Record: REGISTERFLY.COM, INC.
Record last updated on 20-May-2006.
Record expires on 16-May-2007.
Record created on 16-May-2006.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS3.GOLDNETHOST.NET
NS4.GOLDNETHOST.NET
Domain status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it.
Happy moments, praise God.
Difficult moments, seek God.
Quiet moments, worship God.
Painful moments, trust God.
Every moment, thank God. This is a Thomas Kinkade painting. It's rumored to carry a miracle!
They say if you pass this on, you will receive a miracle.
I am passing this on because I thought it was really pretty, and who couldn't use a miracle?!
js: I would say... just meditate on God, moment to moment and notice what you are up to, to prevent your noticing God’s Presence! There is nothing you need to do about it. No practice, no sadhana, no intention, just notice how you are preventing your own awareness of the Lord! That is all. It is very simple. Unlike what most paths/Religions tell you! Simple self-Obesrvation! See what it is you are up to, to prevent your awareness of Love’s Presence! Just notice your reaction to others. You fear, your doubt, your unfriendliness. Your stake in things! Your stake in outcomes! Just notice! That is all I ask of you! Jut notice. That’s it. Just notice. Now, and now and now. (Oops, sorry, did not mean to get away with this.. but... it is true!)
July 1st (Saturday)
- OK, look you guys and gals. If you really want some of those egoic things to happen in your life then pay attention to what am about to write.
Scientists in Japan and in Russia have shown that by simply putting a label on a glass of water, affects the water, structurally. They have shown this under the microscope. But how does that affect you if you drink it? Miracle cures. Events in your life change to conform to your wishes! So, for instance, if you wish abundance, love, compassion, that’s what you would put on the label on the bottle of water (preferably spring water) and then drink it.
Another way is to hold the water bottle or glass of water (preferred) between both hands, focus on the water with eyes and thought/attention and communicate your desires, over several minutes. Those with Attention Deficit Disorder will have a hard time with this. But do it. And over a matter of days or weeks, your wishes will start coming true.
Am telling you that this has been shown Scientifically to be true, at least in the cases of illness and recovery. But also in cases under the microscope in terms of the structure of water molecules. By the way, labels that say murder and death (and killing) produce water that is unstructured! Very negative! So somehow these messages are communicated to your living soul when you drink that water!
So what have you got to lose? Try it out for at least 21 days!
I can also tell you the underlying structure of this. How it works. But most of you would dismiss it. If you are interested send me a request and I’ll send you info.
This can be applied to both health and wealth. Anything, for that matter.
- The GOD programme has been extended another 7 days (until next Saturday). Admin says that gives them more time to clear checks that have been sent, referrers to convert referral commissions into loans (if they wish) and so on.
I feel this one is legit and long term! The latest info is that they now have gone through 2 SEC audits in preparation for going PUBLIC, they have a Dunn and Bradstreet rating, and ATM/Debit card will be ready in a few weeks, and a Canadian warehouse will open in Red Deer Alberta as a pilot project in preparation for going Coutnry-wide! So that sure raises my confidence! Am going to put in another K in there. Use the above link to get signup info and a review.
- You know what? If I simply stick to business in my BLOG? Am sure I will make far more money! But it’s not in my nature. Some may not like it, but many do (my BLOG format). I don’t know. What do you think?
- I decided to play in m8Rich after all. They are launching July 3rd, so we should see some action on this one. OK, it’s one buck while in pre-launch. Here is my play link.
- It’s CANADA DAY! I may take the day off!
- Here is a very ... um... angry... and righteous post by 24DailyPro Admin/Owner... And ... that’s fine. I can see where his anger is coming from, this time.
“Dear 24dailypro members
CEO Will here.
Yes about time I'm emailing you, I know it!
Members this is what I have going. I have a hand full of members cheating the 24dp program using E-bullion. Let me get to the point.
All payouts will be paid one by one for the next two weeks. You may not like it but that's the way I'm going to do it until I find these criminals.
We have some of our E-bullion cash missing. I am trying to re-coupe the cash that was stolen. And those members that stand behind me will understand I have to do this.
I will be hunting these people down and getting Law Officials involved. I will have papers served on these people. IP's do reveal true addresses. I want to make myself clear to those that are doing this, I will do something about it.
I also need some of our loyal members' help. I want everyone turned in that are posting threats, slander and defamation in forums. These forum posters are going to get a taste of what a real company can do. I am not talking out of the side of my mouth.
Yes I'm mad! And I'm not playing around with anyone. You members may think im just getting things off my chest and not doing anything about it. I will challenge anyone who thinks im playing around. I have had enough of being abused and used.
We have been nothing but good to all members, except those that did not follow the rules. Yes members, other admins would not even give you the time of day, We have and we will continue. This time you're going to have to help me. We have helped 1000's
Im asking you for help back. Do the right thing. We never walked away from you. So what's it going to be?
I will have a new forum put up for members. Big WARNING - Do not abuse it! You do not have to vent, I do know how you feel. Support tickets asking about payouts willl not be answered and will be deleted.
Some of you members are a member of PDS. Do not get it involved with 24dailypro! No way no how. My next mission is PDS. Just a heads up! I want adult actions taken in all emails sent to me and staff. Be professional about it.
One more thing I want to make clear to every member. My time with my family is my business. I have rights to spend time with my family and not be accused of stealing money. I do not need anyone's money to spend time with my family. I worked 7 long months. I need a break too!
Members, people do tell me things. My rules, my way as stated above. I mean business!
CEO
Will”
- An encouraging update from 13dailypro Admin:
“13dailyPro News Update July 1st 2006 Refunds explained etc.
Please pay extra attention to all the contents of this email.
This is what we are doing:
Database transfer;
The site is now in maintenance mode and the transfer of the database has begun.
We are anticipating this to take until some time tomorrow, Sunday the 2nd of July.
At that time we will relaunch the site and enable all features.
There are a few major changes and the terms and FAQs will change to include these changes.
1. 13% for 10 days
2. 3% referral commission to the referrer and 6% to refund account
3. Payments will be made upon expiry on or before the 5th following business day. (Note that no payments will be made on weekends or on public holidays of Denmark.)
Refunds;
Will try and explain this as simple as possible.
There will be 2 lists of refunds.
The maximum total amount of your refund is going to be equivalent to your upgrades still active or pending. There will no earnings added to those upgrades of any kind.
If you have never been paid at all,
your full deposit/s will go to list #1
If you are not in profit,
Take everything you have ever physically been paid and subtract it from everything you have physically deposited, if you get a negative amount you are not in profit and the negative amount will go to list #1. Take the value of the upgrade/s you have pending and/or are active and subtract your refund amount which was transferred to list #1 and you will have the amount that goes on list #2
If you are in profit,
Take the value of your upgrade/s pending or active, again without the earnings and this amount will go to list #2
The 2 lists will be accessible from the site and you will be able to keep track on the process.
Note that if you have more than one upgrade they will be treated as 2 separate entries.
The order:
Note that there are no exceptions to this order. No one will get priority over others, not monitors, staff, large accounts or anyone else. Do not send in emails asking to receive your refund, they will not be answered.
Every upgrade has a batch number; the order will follow these numbers, lowest number first. Simple as that. So that members who has waited the longest will get paid first. If you have 2 upgrades then it means you will have 2 entries in list #2
How refunds are funded;
For each upgrade made, regardless if there is an upline and if the upline is in free status or not, 6% will be added to the refunds account.
A percentage is added to the refunds account on all income from the sweepstake and the Advertising sold from now on.
We will add more income avenues as soon as it is possible and these will also help the proceeds.
We will be building a reserve which we will invest partially and earnings from here will also go to the refunds account.
The Future;
Apart from the above mentioned actions, we will be adding a few things a long the way to ensure a lot more stability.
A lot of these were a part of the original plan for 13dailyPro and nothing will change in that regard.
The projects and wish list;
1. Our own 13dailyPro forum for added support and information
2. A second payment processor (this is not guaranteed, but we are looking at different options right now)
3. Outside income avenues other than the ones we already have plans for. There have been a lot of suggestions and they are much appreciated.
4. An emergency plan in case of difficulties to prevent a devastating repetition of last weeks events.
5. More input from members via the forum where we will have polls and so forth.
This is the beginning, we are working towards a new future and we will need your help to get started.
Our goal remains, we want to prove to the industry, that an AS program can be successful and provide a great income source for its members. This may sound a little hypocritical after last week’s event and the reconstruction needed, but with this and at the speed we are doing it, again proves that many simply ran away or gave up.
We are not giving up and not giving in. Team work is our motto and this time around we hope that we can all be a much closer team and work much better together!
You will receive an email as soon as the site is back online!
Sincerely
13dailyPro Team”
- dd extmcclub.com
http://www.extmclub.com
What club would accept one buck? Clearly a scam! And look at their July 1st deposits! One buck! or is it two or three bucks? Wow! And the payouts: fifteen cents! Please top me from laughing!
'nough said.
js
dd trustedprofit
Seems to have the same IP as files4you.net, reverse IP does not work on this one, but a traceroute gets to files4you.net. If this is the same scammer that runs egoldspinner2.com and 9 others then this one is not on the same server. But the look and feel is the same.
So am not sure. But in any case, those daily ROIs are way to high. It's too risky folks. I'd stay away.
- trustedprofit.com resolves to 72.29.85.223
Domain Whois Results:
Domain Name: TRUSTEDPROFIT.COM
Registrant:
TrustedProfit
Andrew Nicholson (support@trustedprofit.com)
28 Second St
Phoenix
Texas,75432
US
Tel. +1.328672056
Fax. +1.328672056
Creation Date: 30-Jun-2006
Expiration Date: 30-Jun-2007
Domain servers in listed order:
ns2.trustedprofit.com
ns1.trustedprofit.com
Administrative Contact:
TrustedProfit
Andrew Nicholson (support@trustedprofit.com)
28 Second St
Phoenix
Texas,75432
US
Tel. +1.328672056
Fax. +1.328672056
Technical Contact:
TrustedProfit
Andrew Nicholson (support@trustedprofit.com)
28 Second St
Phoenix
Texas,75432
US
Tel. +1.328672056
Fax. +1.328672056
June 30th (Friday)
- If any of you who have joined me in SuccessU (new link) have not upgraded to Pro at Trafficswarm yet? Best you do it or you will NOT be eligible for the massive COOP that starts on Saturday, tomorrow! Do it here.
- Re SuccessUniversity: changing the preferences only affects personaly sponsored folks, such as putting them in the HOLDING TANK and then reallocating them as you wish. At least that’s what it seems to me. So this is another way am helping folks, as am set up to place new directly sponsored folks in my HOLDING TANK, then I reassign them.
Some of you have already noticed overspill from me, and direct placement by me in SuccessUniversity (the new link).
Earlier on I had give you an older link to TrafficSwarm and 9 of you upgraded to Pro there. No worries, am getting you transferred to my new home/link there. You are still qualified for the SU COOP. The links below are correct.
Now, when the COOP gets going after midnight tonight, make sure that in your Geneology you maintain a 1/3 2/3 balance. That means that your weakest leg should contain 1/3 of your recruits, and the strong leg the other two thirds. So that would look like 4 in the left, 8 in the right and so on and vice versa (4 out of 12 is one third, 8 out of 12 is two thirds). The best way to do this is to keep your Preferences set to HOLDING TANK and then manually place them. This of course can only be done once the COOP gets going and you have PERSONAL/DIRECT referrals, which you will have!
- So far it is going well (the above). I have 10 signups, I have split them up into two legs, and have place others under others. So that’s my spillover so far, from myself. Once the COOP campaign kicks in on Saturday I expect to see more signups! And I will continue to place them under my folks!
- Read this horrific story! http://www.trafficswarm.com/successu/valuable.html
- I sent out the following alert earlier today as the timing is now!
“ALERT 134 - HORROR STORY - from js 9PlanetReivews
Hi {!name}, please read this horror story: http://www.trafficswarm.com/successu/valuable.html
Then come back to this alert and use the following links: (of course it's up to you)
TrafficSwarm: http://www.trafficswarm.com/go.cgi?525421
Success U: http://IStankiewicz1.successuniversity.com/
(use copy and paste if you must)
When you use the trafficswarm link, JOIN FREE (link) first, then Upgrade to Pro once you go through setting the start page. The other way around does not seem to work, as you need an existing TS ID.
I thought I'd send this out as the deadline is tonight at MIDNIGHT, EST. Hey, I know am going to do well with this and I feel so will you. Imagine someone else, who is a big-hitter, doing all the advertising for you, using YOUR link, not his.
By the way, am still keeping my other position under theRichJerk as spillover is still occuring and I won't give up that position. Right now the default ID for that one is not even mine on the 9PR site, but someone am helping out.
In any case, have a great Friday evening!
PS: Yes, 13dailypro is done. But.... if they succeed with their plan... they will be lauded by everyone! See my BLOG of today for details.
Now my money is in Daily11surf and NowDollar. I had two accounts in 13dailyPro. Lost in one of them but made money in the other. Overall am in the clear. Hope you were as well.
Sincerely,
John stankiewicz.”
- GOD has given us ‘til 2 AM EST. I just got two payouts from two pending withdrawals (5:03 PM EST). Admin is very responsive.
- Great news from NowDollar! From now on you can surf 15 days without missing a day, or skip a day or two, and your upgrade will expire when you have surfed a total of 15 days! No more losing your money for forgetting to surf! Here is the announcement:
“Good Morning NowDollar Members,
I have a quick announcement.
Starting Today, our Advertising Packages will no longer expire in 15 Days. During these summer months many of our Members are planning vacations, spending time with family, or just catching up on some much needed rest. Many of our Members have sent us support tickets stating they will be leaving for vacation and will not be able to surf. So we have made some changes in the way our Advertising Packs work.
When you Purchase Advertising. Your rebate will be paid for 15 Surf Days. That means you will be able to surf today, take tomorrow off, and then surf when you get back and not miss out. Instead of you package expiring in 15 days, you will have 15 surf days. You can now go on vacation and when you return home your account will be just like you left it.
I will break this down for you.
Your Advertising Package will not expire until you surf 15 days. You can surf 15 days strait, or surf every other day. It is up to you. There will be no more missed surf days because you forgot or just did not get to it that day. After you have surfed the 15th time ( once a day) your package will then expire.
We believe this will give our Members some flexibility so surfing will not get in the way of their summer activities.
Have a Great Weekend.
Lance”
- Scheduled Maintenance at Hosting Company where Daily11Surf is hosted: (tonight after 11 PM)
“Important information enclosed for all members, please also if you have any potential downline members who may be joining over the next 24 hours.
We have just received an update from our host who will be working on the server.
Please find details below.
Dear Customers,
On Friday night 30/06/2006 starting at 11pm EST we will be doing network
acquaintance on our aggregation routers. We estimate 60 minutes per router, but
are having a window of 2 hours per router. Currently there are 3 aggregation
routers and only one will be down at any given time. The reason for this so
we can upgrade the RAM and IOS code on the routers in order to increase
redundancy, stability, and scalability in the network.
We apologize for this unavoidable interruption to our services, but it is a
necessary step to ensure ongoing quality of service.
Regards'
All members need not worry if they find the site unavailable over night (EST), all data is secure and the site will return once the work on the servers has been complete.
David and I understand that many people in the Autosurf Industry have had bad news today regarding another site, and people may be very nervous with the industry as a whole. Daily11Surf is fast approaching the $100,000 mark for deposits. This is fantastic as we have only been in operation for 17 Days.
Please re-read the above announcement and make sure that whatever Forum/Blog you use are made aware of this small expected outage.
All the Best
Bruce”
- By now you know that 13DailyPro has run out of money. I won’t post the announcement here as if you are a member you have already received it in your mail. But to summarize it was due to sharply dropping upgrades after the server crash which caused 3 hrs worth of lost data, upgrades, etc. Folks simply panicked and reduced upgrades. So they had to go to a 5 day payout as per TOS but that did not help as folks kept reducing upgrades. That would kill any good programme. So here is the plan, and it is a good one! If they make goog on this they will be praised up and down on 9 planets!
“Dear members,
Here is the deal;
Sometime this Sunday we will re open 13dP for business
Tomorrow the site will go into maintenance mode for a few hours, where the database will be copied to a new database. The original will be reset for all financials.
There will be 2 lists made.
List #1
Everyone not in profit will be on this list and the order is the upgrade ID. Lowest numbers on top.
These refunds will be made first.
To calculate if you are in profit or not, take all your upgrades and subtract all your earnings paid. If this is negative or 0, then you are not in profit. And that amount will be on the first list.
List #2
All expired and active upgrades will be on this list for members who are in profit or even. Same order, lowest upgrade ID’s first.
These refunds will made second.
This is your current unpaid and active upgrades without earnings. These will be paid second.
Both lists are going to be accessible on a stats page so you can keep track of the refunding process!
Refunds will be funded from %’s of ref com, sweepstake, advertising income and so forth.
The program will run at 13% for 10 days (we are yet to discuss the payment term, but I can tell you it wont be instant payouts)
There will be a 9% ref com, but 6% of this will go to the refunds for the 2 lists. 3% goes to the referrer.
The sweepstake will continue and we will add more things as we go to generate more income for the program. We will use this extra income to build a reserve and add to the refund pool. Probably 50-50.
There will be more, but we have to sit down and work all that out in detail first. Goal is still to have a site which can generate enough outside income to have a healthy reserve for times of trouble so everyone can always be paid what they are owed.
There may also be a few other rules, as we want to make sure that this will work long term and not just a few months.
13dailyProTeam”
- From 13dailyPro:
E-Gold security Tips;
It is no secret that many AS members one time or another are victims of their E-Gold account/s being hacked. This has become a growing concern for many e-gold users and we would like to try and help you to protect yourself better from potential hackers.
There are a few suggestions we have collected from around forums
First take a trip to E-Gold security recommendations page
https://www.e-gold.com/securitynotes.html
On this page you will find some very handy links
We are familiar with grc.com and their firewall test tool ShieldsUp is excellent.
Also it is in general recommended to use Mozilla FireFox web browser rather than Internet Explorer, mainly because of some security flaws in IE which will allow certain viruses to work.
A great tool to catch Trojans is a program called Ewido, if you want to trial this for free go to www.ewido.net
We recommend that you visit these sites for more information on the best anti virus programs and anti spyware protection
http://www.av-comparatives.org/
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/index.php
The latter being a forum where you can pretty much get an answer to most of your questions regarding security.
As a basic rule it will be worth while following all of these steps;
1. Use an email address that you do not use for anything else other than E-Gold, or at least not one you do not use for AS and HYIPS and other internet programs.
2. Always use the SRK feature provided by E-Gold or a top quality password manager program. SRK onscreen keyboard can be found immediately preceding the passphrase box on the log in page for E-Gold
3. Set your account security settings to the highest possible, e.g. enable browser detection, disable automated spends, IP settings set to high and so on.
4. Use a long and complicated passphrase and include some capital letters and symbols
5. Change your passphrase periodically again using the SRK feature or pw program
6. If you ever get a second log in page, like for a confirmation of the Accsent pin, close your browser immediately and scan for Trojans. Call E-Gold and ask them if your account setting remained secure.
7. Never click on links in an email sent to you supposedly from E-Gold, it is not from them and if you follow the link and log in, you can wave good bye to your gold!
8. It can be useful to have a second E-Gold account for transactions to and from your bank or if you play HYIPS, use a separate E-Gold account for this as some HYIPS have bad scripts that could compromise your E-Gold account.
9. Scan your computer often with the latest updated Virus definitions.
10. Make sure your account information is up to date especially the phone number, address and your name. Check this periodically.
For basic maintenance of your PC, download and run CrapCleaner every day. www.ccleaner.com
Run this before running Ewido as it takes care of all spy cookies and saves you time when running Ewido.
There is more detailed information available on a lot of forums on the internet. Many forums are just for security issues and can be found doing a basic search with goggle or other search engine.
So, that was a little heads up on E-Gold from us, hope you will find this useful and it will help you stay secure!
Sincerely
13dailyPro Team
- NowDollar (manual Surf) has just been added to the Reviews page. Go into your 9PR backoffices and put in your own info!
- dd m8rich
This is an 8 by 8 forced matrix. These things usually don't work because
1. You did not join under a heavy-hitter/recruiter and so get very little overspill if any
2. You yourself are not a good recruiter, so there is no overspill for those you manage to sign up
3. It never works like the mathematics shows you. If you're a good recrutier the so-called matrix or pyramid starts looking like a diamond, because the further away people are from you, the less influence you have, the less help they get, and so it tapers off.
Now, my sponsor, if I were to sign up, is most likely not a heavy recruiter. So there is no way I will sign up with one of these unless there are special circumstances, such as a heavy hitter close to me in my upline or if I manage to sign up a heavy hitter...
So SuccessUniversity, twice now, is in the special case category and I signed up because I was sure, and still am, that overspill will occur and that I don't have to work TOO hard. And sure, folks who go in with me will get overspill from myself and my upline. In these kinds of cases I am sure, and hence I do go ahead and list the program.
But in the case of m8rich, unless I get an invite from a heavy hitter, I won't sign up, and won't try to sign up others, as there will be little overspill to make it worthwhile.
So there is no further need for any more extensive DD on this one.
But you know? I may just join this one for fun! It’s only eight bucks and I can afford to lose that! It’s set up just like a chain letter. You pay each person one buck (not two bucks, as it says), and so on. Similar to 7DollarsMagic, in which am in profit already. Who knows? Maybe we’ll hit it big in one of these?
- How hard is it to put up a clear link to e-mail your downline? Shit! I can’t find it in TrafficSwarm! I just wonder, sometimes, who the heck designs these sites? Some idiot Engineer who has no appreciation for ease of use? Still can’t find the bloody link! Yet I saw it earlier on. And canceled! Maybe it went away? As I never used it, but did see a warning that I can only e-mail my downline once a ... day? Month? Not sure. Who is the idiot that designed this site?
June 29th (Thursday)
- I’m pretty sure that the deadline for the new SuccessUniversity signup is midnight Friday, tomorrow, not yesterday. Yesterday was the day he sent out an e-mail and the link! But I am trying to confirm that. Yet am pretty sure that’s the case. So have no fear.
and here is your answer!
“Hi js,
We apologize. In the first letter the date is inconsistent as you say. Since then we have emailed two additional links. Those pages are correct. On the first one we had moved the date out, and when we made the change, we did not catch all the instances of the date before we uploaded the page. :-[
The correct deadline date is Friday 6/30/06 at midnight. We have fixed the page with the mistake and have redirected the previous links to the latest link that has all three letters
http://www.trafficswarm.com/successu/valuable.html
Again, we apologize for the mistake and the confusion. Luckily it was the later date, so that should give everyone a little more time.
Thanks
Scott”
So now follow my instructions below! June 28th entry below. JS
- Daily11surf has just been listed on the Reviews page and my own links removed from the BLOG. Those of you with a 9PlanetReviews site of your own please sign in to your back office there, click on Programs, and beside Daily11Surf put in your userID and check that checkbox. (Use the Reviews button up top to find Daily11surf and sign up.)
- I will list NewDollar tonight or tomorrow, during the day.
- Notice the drop in Traffic Ranking for Daily11surf? Well that’s because recently they have been down with a hardware failure and delays due to DNS propagation. So no need to panic on that one.
- Again I publish the sites that the scammer of egoldspinner2.com is running: disseminate this throughout the net! Please!
Search Results for 72.29.81.100 [reverse DNS - server.besthosters.org]
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- From Alien Trust: “We are currently examining each and every cashout request for Fraud and Loss Prevention. We've been victimized pretty badly over the course of the last month by E-Gold fraudsters so we're looking into each and every account as cashouts are requested to determine the validity of original purchases. Those people who are posting bogus information are being found, deleted, and charges filed when possible. We are doing our very best to minimize losses by getting these a**holes out of our program!”
What does that mean? He's not very careful with his language! Victimized pretty badly! Ouch! How badly?
And again "The drop in Gold prices has indeed effected us as well as many other sites, (some even having to fold) since we keep very little in E-Gold at any given time this hasn't effected us as much as others, but we did lose a significant amount of money in this drop. " SIGNIFICANT means just that! SIGNIFICANT (by the way, it’s affected, not effected!). Yet he says they were not hurt very badly! And he has very little in e-gold, so then why use the word SIGNIFICANT? It does not go well with the word "very little". What's actually going on here Vince?
One more problem (beef) I have with AlienTrust is that I’d like to get my just over $1K I have in there out! But then I need to get the VM card from him... and he needs several pieces of ID from me just to buy the VM card from him. So that opens me up to Identity Theft! And unless I submit my documents, he won’t transfer my cashout to my VM Card (in case I buy it somewhere else). So what am I to do? I think I will chance it.
- Here is very detailed info on the VM Card from the AutoSurf Authority!
- Those of you asking about FX-Experts?
“FX-Experts once again put 'on hold'
18 commentspublished by HansG on 24 April 2006
I have received strong indications this time that FX-Experts' trader is NOT doing well at all. He's been losing for three weeks straight now. We are talking open positions here, not final results, but the trend is bad and it does not seem like he is able to recover. Significant drawdowns like this certainly points towards a very risky trading strategy, where too much of the total fund is put in (risky) trading at the same time.
I have put FXE on hold for now (again).” -- Yes, this is dated April 24th, but still may be an indication of where things are headed.
The above was a comment by HansG, not myself. One of my readers, Ivan, sent the following, so it is worth considering:
“The owner of this blog http://rabbit.akwo.net/ has access to his trading account
I saw all these negative posts before joining. Theses posts are created by the so called cyber-mafia. The funniest thing is that if there is a honest real program the scammers are trying to do everything to bring it down.
I have been compounding but i know so many people are getting paid every week on regular bases without delays. My upline was paid 28 times.
Look at the website, the even have managed accounts.
Look at the forum http://www.fx-experts.com/forum/index.php
people are getting paid.
If you are interested you can read all the DD about this program. The info is in their news section on the website “
- dd doubleyounow.biz
There is only one site on that server and that's snapbackgold.com, not doubleyounow.biz.
But snapbackgold.com is an HYIP started on June 16th! So am not sure what is going on. As they are NOT redirecting to doubleyounow.biz.
So am highly suspicious of this one. In any case, it's a doubler. So just forget about it.
Here is the registrant info for snapbackgold.com
Registrant:
None
8919 E Broadway St
Altus, OK 73703
US
Domain name: SNAPBACKGOLD.COM
Administrative Contact:
Johnson, Joe Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by Whois Source
8919 E Broadway St
Altus, OK 73703
US
+1.4052998182 Fax: +1.4052998182
Technical Contact:
Johnson, Joe Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by Whois Source
8919 E Broadway St
Altus, OK 73703
US
+1.4052998182 Fax: +1.4052998182
doubleyounow.biz resolves to 69.57.180.208
Domain Whois Results:
Domain Name: DOUBLEYOUNOW.BIZ
Domain ID: D13827489-BIZ
Sponsoring Registrar: REGISTERFLY.COM, INC.
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 821
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Registrant ID: DI_3388749
Registrant Name: Whois Protection Service
Registrant Organization: RegisterFly.com - Ref-R# 38180186
Registrant Address1: 404 Main Street
Registrant Address2: 4th Floor
Registrant City: Boonton
Registrant State/Province: NJ
Registrant Postal Code: 07005
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Country Code: US
Registrant Phone Number: +1.19737362545
Registrant Facsimile Number: +1.19737361355 there is more!
- Here’s an update from Conrad at WORLDLPP.COM (see Reviews page)
“Hi everyone. Conrad here with some more exciting news. Our program #3 is now finally ready!!! What is it, you ask? Please follow our logic here as we explain it. We do have a great IT Center at our disposal, and it is doing very well. I hope to have good news for you next month in terms of profitability as a few of you have inquired about that. Anyway, we do own it (you do too) and we may as well use it right? Now, the internet has two basic types of websites – those selling something, and those that are informative or fun in nature. The websites that are not selling anything derive their revenues from advertising, and we all know how much advertisers rake in. But to get people to visit, you have to offer something unique and new. Something that will keep people coming back again and again.
We are in the process of putting together a whopper of a website and are real excited about it’s long term potential. Here is what we will add so far, but we will also be adding more...lots more later:
1.) A treasure hunt that will offer prizes and be sponsored by advertisers – but people will have to come back daily to try and win, and the prizes will be big.
2.) A lotto section where we will supply winning combinations parsed from different websites i.e. lucky numbers, psychics, etc. We will give them to people free but with a catch. If they win, they have to give us 10%. And we know what 10% of a million, 10 million, or one hundred million is right? One of our staff tried it and she won a small amount!! It is a unique system not seen on the internet.
3.) Free games, downloads, news, weather, sports, jokes, forum, etc, etc
4.) Contests for best joke, recipe, car care tip, etc with prizes
5.) Newsletter with tips and freebies
6.) Giveaways daily – we have lots of in-house gifts, downloads and even websites to give away to start things rolling – not to mention cash
7.) Fun crystal ball – ask it anything and get an answer
8.) Barter exchange – free – exchange unwanted items and services worldwide
9.) Horoscope - daily
10.) And lots, lots more
Now please remember, our IT Center can put all this together and has even started at this time. Please go to http://www.prizexplosion.com and you will see our lotto feature just about done. We will open the website before it is completely done and add things every day as we go along. We expect to go live within 30 days or so, and be fully functional within 90 days (it does take time to do all this but you can watch our progress every day). Your funds will pay for advertising and for IT services (but at cost only i.e. employee pay only). The biggest portion will go to advertising. And this website will also have an affiliate feature – so you can earn cash and prizes just for referring people!
But there is even more!!! By putting together a website that will get lots of visitors, we have an outlet to advertise our IT Center and even Vivamin on. Yes, we said Vivamin is undergoing a transformation but we still have the original website up and running. We can get additional revenues from that as well instead of just letting it go to waste. And we will use Google adsense advertising on all of our websites as well, to generate another income stream. This is a win/win situation for all of us in terms of targeted advertising for our other programs!!
The units will stay at $50.00 each and can be brought one of three ways. The quickest and easiest is using E-gold through your WLPP member area. Log in at http://worldpp.com and go to "Purchase Prizexplosion units". You can purchase each unit for $50.00 in E-gold funds. If you need to sign up for an Egold account, here is the url for that - http://www.e-gold.com/e-gold.asp?cid=2505859 . Signing up for E-gold is quick and easy. Next, you can mail in your payment to our accountant as follows:
IT Center Accounting
22811 Meridian Ave Suite B-19
Graham, Washington 98338 USA
Certified funds or money orders will get you instant access but personal checks will be held until cleared. Please be sure to include your name and member ID!! Please email us at admin at worldlpp.com and let us know how many you will be buying by check, so we can hold them for you. And last, we can do a limited number of Paypal and Moneybooker buys but they will have to be for 20 units or more each. If you wish to purchase 20 units or more using Paypal or Moneybookers, please provide us with your corresponding account name/email and WLPP member ID and we will send you a bill for the amount of your buy. But that is for 20 units or more only with no exceptions (please do not email us and ask us to make an exception). Both of them do not like affiliate programs and that is the reason why we have to be careful. You can email us at admin at worldlpp.com with any questions or to send the above information.
This program will remain open for the next 30 days.
In closing, let me say that we did not fair too well with Vivamin, but are doing just great with the IT Center. Everyone there is currently busy and we almost have a backlog now! Hopefully, as I said, next month we can begin profit payouts from the IT Center and perhaps Vivamin once again as well. We are doing all that we can to maximize our earnings potential, but it does take time. You, all, own everything that we have in operation so please do your best to support our programs. I do owe a few of you some email answers and will get those out to you asap...promise. That’s it for now but more is coming very shortly. G’day!
Conrad
PS: We have finally received the email from our visitor to the Iasi, Romania IT Center, and it is posted in the WLPP members area. He does confirm it’s existence as well as the employees there. We have posted his email in it’s entirety including his name and email address.”
- dd forexalive.com
Server is in HK.
The registrant of the name servers, thus hosting company of the name servers is in Taipei, Taiwan. Interesting.
Looks like their email server is disabled.
My further research shows that there are 4 total websites on that server:
Search Results for 202.67.236.62 [no reverse DNS set]
4 Results for 202.67.236.62 (Forexalive.com)
Website DMOZ Yahoo
1. cyberica.biz 0 listings 0 listings ---> no site there.
2. forexalive.com 0 listings 0 listings
3. marysuehubbard.com 0 listings 0 listings ----> wife of L. Ron. Hubbard, a tribute (wow, Scientology)
4. recoveryventures.net 0 listings 0 listings ---> suspended, ran out of resources
To me it seems to be run out of Taiwan and hosted in HK.
From the site I see that they are not trading anywhere, because 110% after only 1 day is ludicrous. And 150% after 3 days is also ludicrous.
So it's a scam run out of Taiwan. Stay away.
Here is what the reader who alerted me to this said:
"Yea,it's a scam,they gave out $10 for a couple of days,i used it but did not invest my own,just used their money,they're trying to get people to invest,got it up to $21...everybody pissed them off so now they're refunding (dought it) haha!...same as RecoveryVentures did...thanks"
So Website #4 in that list above was run by them as well!
June 28th (Wednesday)
- Those of you who had signed up with me in SuccessUniversity have by now seen that overspill has almost stopped (well, not quite, my strong leg keeps growing and am going to continue that account!).
Here's the thing.
I've just been sent an offer by a reader of mine that is also a TrafficSwarm Pro Member. I will give you a link to go to for the details, but let me summarize:
- TrafficSwarm owner will begin to use his massive advertising power (and venues) to advertise the links of those Pro members who signed up or will sign up in Success University by Friday midnight!
- This is not simple spillover. Your link will be advertised and you will have DIRECT and PERSONAL referrals coming in!
- He is doing this because most Pro Members (and regular members) don't seem to be making any money and he wishes to keep you, as a Pro member, FOR LIFE.
- If you have not signed up in Success University yet, then here is your chance!
- first you must become a TrafficSwarm pro member or upgrade to Pro. If you have no appreciable downline there, and are not Pro, consider siging up again with myself, using a new e-mail address there.
- second you must sign up with me in SuccessUniversity and immediately go for the full upgrade of $149! By Friday MIDNIGHT.
- advertising will begin after Friday.
The owner of TrafficSwarm is promising to pay your Pro monthly subscription (30 dollars) if you do not make money with SuccessUniversity! Wow. Win-win.
If you have already signed up with me in Success University, you'll have to do so again. And pay $149 (again, if you upgraded), but you must sign up (just like I had to, again) under my new link.
TrafficSwarm: http://www.trafficswarm.com/go.cgi?108846
Success U: http://IStankiewicz1.successuniversity.com/
When you use the trafficswarm link, JOIN FREE (link) first, then Upgrade to Pro once you go through setting the start page. The other way around does not seem to work, as you need an existing TS ID.
If you're already a TrafficSwarm member you need to upgarde to Pro there first as the CO-OP is only for Pro members. There is a link for this right under the tabs menu, just below Resources (Upgrade to Pro). Of course, consider joining fresh with myself.
This time the deal is even sweeter because that CO-OP will go on for months on end! And you will have DIRECT SIGNUPS, not just overspill.
So here is the link for the full details: http://www.trafficswarm.com/successu/details.html
One more thing, let me head off a potential question that may arise, spontaneously, in your braincore:
"How far under you will I be?"
Answer: It does not matter where you will be placed under me, in this case, because although spillover will happen, we are not depending on spillover! Rather, your own pesonal referral link to Success Universtiy will be advertised on this planet and the other eight or nine by the owner of TrafficSwarm. Hence you will get DIRECT referrals under you, and you can place them where you like. I would use the WEAKEST LEG setting if you don't know what you're doing.
PS: It does not really matter to me if you join or not. I know this will be a success (the CO-OP), so am inviting you because I know this will be big and it is a chance for you, finally, to make some money. So read the details using the above link, then decide what you're going to do, if anything. Some folks are only extending this to their close friends and associates...
Sincerely,
John stankiewicz.
- There is something am going to send out via the ALERT list tonight! By 9:30 PM EST, I hope. It will be big! Just did! Read the above.
- I’d say based on the above Traffic Rank Chart that 13dailypro is still doing great, 24DailyPlus is starting to lose ground, NowDollar is surging ahead and catching up to the top two, 14DailyPlus is losing ground, and Daily11Surf is picking up steam but is only half way there (but it’s only 8 days old!). (I’ve just upgraded both by an appreciable amount!)
So based on the above, my feeling and thinking is that one should hedge one’s bets and put more into NowDollar and Daily11surf. 13DailyPro may still be good for yet another cycle, or two. Time to get out of 14DailyPlus and 24DailyPlus as well, or at least taper off your spends in those two (14Daily and 24Daily). I will list Daily11surf and NowDollar on the reviews page some time tonight. NowDollar can now be surfed by FireFox. Nope, I take that back, I get script errors using FF, but Mozilla is fine, as is IE.
- VM Card: the compilatoin of posts in yesterday’s BLOG IS NOT MY REVIEW OF THE VM CARD! It is just a compilation of posts by others. Some of the info is blatantly untrue, some of it is. Decide for yourself. The material that is most likely true is in the post by Vince of AlientTrust.
Here is more material for you to digest (I have not decided, myself, either way):
“Ah, no sir, VM is NOT owned by a bank, its cards are underwritten through a bank, and its sequence numbers are pulled from Visa slips. It's a privately held company. If VM was owned by a bank, it would have already been shut down for several violations, not to mention zero audited financials. Let's see how long VM lasts at their current level of operations before it is forcefully audited and or sent to receivership.
A bank running as an MLM, with no forced instruments or documents for Capitaol Gains taxes on an individual level, NOT even counting proof that the companies that are buying into the MLM are licensed to deal in this venue. Oh my, do not get me started, ROFL. This VM company is a mess. I refuse to accept the fact that a FDIC Bank would EVER even think of owning a company like this. Underwrite one, ah no. Sponsor a facet of one, yes. They are sponsoring / underwriting the cards.
This is a fact, not opinion.” - posted by H2WOah, Administrator of Adtitans.com forum? That’s what his profile indicates.
My own opinion of all this is that the autosurfs should all reprogram their scripts (it’s the same script!) to accept e-gold by weight and in that way the Admins can no longer claim that they were affected by the price of gold as they would now be managing ounces of gold, not US dollars based on the fluctuating price of gold. As well, depending on a single pay method, such as a VM card opens up the possibility of a shutdown of the VM operation if the Authorities decide to come in and demand proof of source of income. Ponzis? Am sorry, but your money has been illegally generated and we are taking possession. Yikes!
- Daily11surf: Bruce, the Admin, has this to say about missed surf days:
“Missed Surfing.
It is your responsibility to ensure that you complete your days surf to obtain the bonus we give you. Over the last few days we have received some very funny reason why people did not complete the surf and qualify for their bonus. All Downtime on the site is monitored and recorded so attempting to use this excuses will not wash.
We will not credit members the daily surf they missed unless a 100% accountable reason is given. Such reason as ' My Dog ate the PC cable, so therefore I could not surf' will not be tolerated.
All the Best
Bruce”
Bruce? I was wondering.... recently I was abducted by 3 Gray (3ft. tall) Aliens, the Zetas. I was taken to their home planet, Zeta Reticuli and was shown all kinds of probes that they use on abductees. They were horrific! I was then implanted with a micro-chip so that they could communicate with me. Well, to make a long story short, I was returned home three days later. So I missed three days of surfing. Bruce? Will you credit me? No? Darn those Aliens! Ooops, hold on, message incoming! What? An invasion? When? 2012? Oh oh. Gotta go!
- I’d not go to this site: profitswinger.com as they are using an invalid certificate. This could spell trouble. It will also not load into FireFox and the link is set up in such a way as to launch IE even if your settings for your Browser are set to FireFox or Mozilla.
June 27th (Tuesday)
- Just remember that GOD will only pay you 25% back on your deposits until the end of June! That’s just in a few days! Use the Reviews button up top, then Ctrl-F on GOD. You may have to find again. Then use the JOIN Here! link to get info. Why? Because I have folks signed in that who are also sharing this info.
As well, COMPOUNDING will no longer be offered past end of June! So... to keep that compounding going, you need to deposit before the end of June and compounding on those deposits will continue. Current loans will be unaffected until they are due! Right now... initiate a loan for say $500+25%=$625 and pay only $500! Etc.
- TheWorldLaunch: if they get the signup process fixed and the 30 day trial is available, I will go for that and see how it goes. Stay tuned.
Here are a few more things that I “discovered”. The entry cost into this thing is not just $14.95 trial or $99.95 for a full year... you see that’s just for the front end matrix that is being run by TheWorldLaunch Admin. Once you sign up, even at $14.95 you still have to purchase one of the packages on the main VMDirect site. And the lowest is $199 or so. OF course you must have the tools that you will be selling, after all, so I don’t dispute that it is a good thing, for those who can afford it and who will work this one hard. The key thing is... it’s not passive. Not at all. So this is not a good business fit with most of my readers. Hence am bowing out of it. If you have me as your sponsor, and wish to continue with this... then use the button there to request a new sponsor. You see folks? Am being honest with you. Else I would have tried to drag you into this no matter what. Frankly, I KNOW that most of you would not do well in this. So why waste your money?
- PoinShareXtreme: if you are a member, sign in at the site, click on the Forum link(s) and go to the Sample Documents thread. There you will see samples already filled out. As well, there is a new e-mail address to send the documents to, it’s in the News and Updates thread, June 18th. Do not use the old e-mail address.
- NowDollar.com autosurf: I will be reviewing this one tonight... it’s an up and comer and I think it will do well, joining the ranks of Daily11surf and others. This is a bit of an awkward site! First you must fund your account via VM Card, E-gold or other, and THEN you can upgrade your account from the internal funds! Not that friendly! And it does NOT work with FireFox! You have to use either IE or Mozilla. I recommend Mozilla! And it’s a manual surf! Ugh!
- Here is some info that I compiled re: the VM Card. Many autosurf programmes are adopting this debit (preloaded) card as a way to receive payment (and some use it for funding). Thought you’d like to know, as it is becoming popular. the following are a series of posts! Not my review of the VM card. The second post by Vince likely contains the most accurate information on the card.
“I know there is a lot of talk about going to a VM CARD in order to autosurf and upgrade/cashout. I want ya'll to know this is a bad idea, as a stand alone option for payment/upgrade. Lets not forget what happened when we were forced to accept STORMPAY as or only option for payment/upgrades. Anytime there is a singular option for anything, someone figures how to scam it and take off with all the money. Besides all that, there are a lot of fees attached to the use of this card... load fees $4.95, monthly fees $4.95, transfer fees $3.00 etc. the list of fees goes on and on. You can check out the fees at ASAMonitor.com. I am not knocking the use of the card, only the use as an only option to make AND receive payment for your surfing. For the small money surfer most of our profits would go to someone in order to use the card. Where would our profits be then. This card is a form of DEBIT card, so my question is this. If I already have a DEBIT card via my banking institution, can I/we use our own Debit card to do business with the autosurf sites. NO ONE WILL ANSWER THAT. To offer one type of DEBIT CARD and not allow another's Debit card sounds a little fishy, if not illegal.
Another thing now that we're talking about banks. In the push to get us to accept the VM Card, I am seeing a lot BS about each card having its own account and being protected by the FDIC. The FDIC only insures accounts at Banks or Savings Institutes. 1. If each card has its own account, that insured by the FDIC, at what bank or savings institute is this account located? NO ONE WILL ANSWER ME. 2. The FDIC only insures account against theft or bank/savings institute failure. IT DOES NOT INSURE YOUR ACCOUNT IF YOU FREELY GIVE YOUR MONEY TO A BUSINESS IN A PROFIT VENTURE, WHICH IS WHAT THE AUTOSURF INDUSTRY IS. THEREFORE TO IMPLY THAT THE FDIC WILL INSURE YOUR ACCOUNT FROM LOSS, IS MIS-LEADING. IF YOU LOSE MONEY BECAUSE OF A SITE CLOSES OR WON'T PAY YOU, YOU HAVE NO RECOURSE. At least with pay processors you can ask for a refund of moneys. You may or may not get it but with the VM Card you definately will not.
I am asking you as a autosurfer to JUST SAY NO TO VM CARDS and write your autosurf sites, all of them, and tell them if they intend to offer VM Cards as the only option to upgrade/cashout (please use both upgrade and cashout, because some sites are allowing the upgrade option but not the cashout option) that you will stop using the site, in favor of sites that offer both options.
Please tell as many surfer and forums about what you have read here. Maybe we can stop this scam before it dictates its demands to us and forces us to submit to every whim the sites can dream up.
Thanks
Fred D. Graves
(fog53)
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The following is a quote from Vince Kronelin, and has been backed up and checked out by many other people. I post it only in answer to your question of who are they.
"Virtual Money has been in business as a processor for Southwest Bank for over 5 years and does business in over 80 countries worldwide. If you'll go to the Southwest Bank website at http://www.southwestbank.com and look at locations, you'll see that the North Dallas location is actually on the ground floor of the same building that Virtual Money is located in.
Southwest Bank
1603 LBJ Freeway
Suite 100
Dallas, TX 75234
Virtual Money Inc.
1603 LBJ Freeway
Suite 800
Dallas, TX 75234
Folks I've been to both the Bank and the Virtual Money offices and seen the entire operation, I've sat in meetings with Robert Hodgins the CEO and in fact spoke with him today on the telephone concerning this issue and he did indeed confirm that Southwest Bank DOES have a Money Transmitter License and has for many years.
Southwest bank is a 9 Billion Company and is in no danger of going anywhere."
I think we are all aware that FDIC only covers the money in your account and not when you've spent it somewhere. We all make ad buys with the warning in mind that we do so at our own risk, and we take responsibility as such. The beef people had with payment processors (more than one) is that after losing money to programs, they also lost money to payment processors, which is inexcusable. Knowing that the money IN MY ACCOUNT is safe...and mine... is important to me. I agree that there should be a choice, and I will take responsibility for my choice, but I cannot agree to the blanket statement that VM is a bad move altogether. That position seems to me to be born more of fear of the unknown than anything else.
Pardon me if I've offended anyone...I'm feeling particularly opinionated today.
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These are questions that can be directed towards VM CS 800-261-4578
But I can try to answer your question for you.
VM, like other payroll/gift/prepaid debit cards, is just that, a prepaid debit card or stored value card. Only what is loaded on the card is what can be used.
It's nothing new. Is VM the only company doing this? Of course not. Do a google search for "payroll cards" or "payroll debit cards". The concept has been around for some time. Some even have Visa/MC logos so you can use it like a credit card. They offer a way to allow those that do NOT have access to traditional banking solutions to still obtain bank-like services. It also doubles as a gift card, or just another payment solution.
The catch is usually the fees. That's where they make their residual income back from. But, compared with trying to cash a check and the fees and time involved in finding a check cashing place, actually it works out cheaper/convenient for these individuals.
The way that the VM system is set up, their network doubles as several things:
a private debit card
a payment processor
Anyone within the VM network can pay each other and do other things as defined in the VM terms and service.
You could not pay to my maestro debit card that I have with XYZ company. I cannot pay to your visa debit card that you have with DEF company. Debit cards are different as each are attatched to different banks each with their own fee schedule and terms of service.
IF you know someone's bank acct # and ABA routing #, you could pay that person's bank acct which the debit card is attatched, BUT NOT THE DEBIT CARD DIRECTLY. It would have to be issued by the same bank AND the same company AND be set up to do internal transfers.
The question is, do you want your personal info floating around there? No. So you obtain a 3rd party debit card service (such as VM) which allows you to securely move money around using bank-like features. Or use another payment processor such as e-gold/paypal/etc.
What you are probably thinking of is a merchant that accepts debit cards as a payment (such as at the supermarket or gas pump). That would require a merchant acct, processor, etc. and perhaps multiple processors to accept all of the different networks (pulse, maestro, visa, interlink, plus, etc.). Then of course integration into the website. Not sure how chargebacks work.
Their accounts are FDIC insured FOR THE MONEY THAT IS IN YOUR ACCT. Just like your other US bank accts at an FDIC insured institution, it only covers what is in your acct.
Additionally, their bank accts are really quasi-bank accts. They are real accts, but have certain VM-imposed restrictions on them.
These are questions that can be directed towards VM CS 800-261-4578
The bank is not responsible for what you spend your money on. If you have a problem with the product/service you spend money on, that is between YOU and the MERCHANT.
So let's summarize:
- Debit cards are actually attatched to a bank acct of some kind. You are not paying the debit card itself. You just use the debit card to withdraw.
- If you pay to someone else's debit card, it must be issued by the same company, by the same bank, and their network/TOS must be set up to accomodate card-to-card transfers.
- Not all money on stored-value/gift debit cards are FDIC insured. VM is.
- accepting debit cards as payment as a merchant is different from accepting a specific debit card.
I think I over-answered your question, but you should get the idea. Anything else, I suggest visiting https://www.virtualmoneyinc.com/index.html or calling VM. e-mailing them may take a while to respond. They answer the phone within 5 minutes during normal business hours.
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I, for one am not for having a VM card as the only processor....the fees alone doesn't make it worth while to have...you pay someone every time you have to use the card...and then you look at the card and you get charged a monthly fee...
I don't care if people been to the bank and sat in on meetings and toured the banks where this card is issued...the bottom line is...IF YOU PICK UP THAT CARD YOU HAVE TO PAY SOMEONE, IF YOU KEEP THAT CARD IN YOUR WALLET AND DON'T USE IT YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY A MAINTANCE FEE...IF YOU USE THIS CARD THEY HAVE YOU BY THE BALLS NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT...AND I THINK THIS IS BULLS**T...
Someone is getting rich off this card and it isn't me or you as members of Auto-surf sites...
First you buy the card, then you pay to have it loaded and shipped to you, then pay money to fund your account and you pay to give the auto-surf site your money...
How do we know that all the Auto-Surf and HYIP sites are going to accept the same card....Phoenix surf has their own card, Surf20daily has their own card, Sweet-Surf has their own card....How many cards do we have to purchase....at $25.00 to $89.00 a pop...then if you want the card in 24 hours it cost another $70.00...if you ask for a payout and want it in within a 3 hour period then you have to pay a fee for that also...They get you coming and going...
I have a debit card from BofA....why can't that card be used...why can't I request a payout using my BofA ATM/debit card and my money be placed into my BofA bank account instead of going onto this so called VM card....
What about the little people that can't afford all the fees, or the card....People that are just making it in this world should they be deni the right to belong to these sites because they can't afford a VM/debit card....
That is looking out for the members now isn't it....
I join these sites to make a little monies and to have fun...Granted I am doing pretty damn good...have a lot of success...But I didn't join to make someone else rich...or give them my money if I can help it...
When time comes and this VM/debit card is a benefit and not a libility to users then I will consider it....until then I am not for this card at all....
__________________
Respectfully
RedHorse
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Redhorse,
Below are the fee's I have found that are associated with the VM Card:
Initial Card Purchase : $30
Additional Cards: $15.00 EA
Funds Deposit 4.95
ATM Withdrawal - US 1.50
ATM Withdrawal - US (Denied) 0.60
ATM Withdrawal - International 4.50
ATM Withdrawal - International (Denied) 1.20
ATM Balance Inquiry/Denied Inquiry - US 0.50
ATM Balance Inquiry/Denied Inquiry - International 0.50
VRU Activity Fee 0.60
Card to Card Transfer 3.00
Card to Bank Account Transfer 3.00
Bank Account to Card Transfer 3.00
Monthly Account Service Fee 4.95
Account Dormancy 3.00
Card Deactivation 1.00
Lost Card Replacement 15.00
Load Transfer 4.95
Card to Check 4.95
Benefits 9.95
Cashier Load Transfer 4.95
With Safepay Solutions, I am paying around $200/month in fees and thats just with FPC. Now...I havent done much research on the VM Card, but how do these VM Card fees add up to be more than $200/month? And I'm not attacking you, just wondering what it is you see that I dont.
I do however, think it sucks that I have several separate cards for different sites. They should definately not be exclusive to any one site.
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HOW TO INCREASE YOUR ACCOUNT MAXIMUM BALANCE LIMIT
This is the additional security information you will be required to send VMC in order to increase this $2,500 limit:
Limit increases from 2,501.00 - 10,000
. 2 forms of ID. One must be a government issued Photo Id (eg. Drivers License, Passport)
Limit increase from 10,001 and above
. 1 Government issued Photo ID, plus 2 documents in the name of the cardholder reflecting the same registered card address on file with Virtual Money.(eg. Telephone bill or other utility bill no older than 30 days.)
Next, forward these documents with your card number along with the specific limit amount you are requesting to:
EMAIL - limitincrease@virtualmoneyinc.com
FAX - 972-692-1763
Please allow 5-10 business days from the date your documents are submitted for your request to be completed. Once verification is completed you will be notified by email of your new limit.
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- TheProfitRing is down and out. Not enough money in their e-gold account to pay out. Nice Admin. Came forth with what’s going on.
- dd nowdollar.com
Manual Surf.
Site is ... a bit user unfriendly. You need to first fund your account, then upgrade your account. Just like past cyclers/doublers.
Registrant is hiding behind a P.O. Box. Oh well. Server is in Florida, Prolexic. Those guys are good.
Reverse IP test shows that they are on a dedicated server! Good for them. Shows me that they are serious about this.
Here are some things that are being said:
"This traffic exchange was created for the serious marketer as well as the beginner. If you are looking to get your web site in front of thousands of people world wide then NowDollar is for you. We are owned and staffed by the private Advertising Firm MidCity Media. We have positioned ourselves to become the Worlds Premier Online Advertising Company. NowDollar has put together a long term business model for the success of our Members and the Company through the next Decade.
The Concept is simple, You purchase Advertising for your WebSite, and NowDollar will pay you a Rebate on your Advertising Purchase just to view our other Members Advertising. You can join us as a free Member and Advertise One WebSite and it will be viewed 50 times. Or you can buy a Advertising Package and list up to Five WebSites. (Site views received are based on the amount paid for your Advertising Package.) "
35% profit after 15 days of surfing.
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June 26th (Monday)
- I am sorry, but most of you are passive types and theworldlaunch is not passive at all! So most of you will NOT like it. I too am tired of active MLMs and Network marketing and even affiliate programs that cost too much and require too much. So that’s it.
-js
- Hey! Check out the Amazing Stuff/Products using the above button! I am adding some really nice stuff each day!
- Wow, am still getting the occasional dollar from 7DollarsMagic! Am way in profit now.
- Yes, PIU is still around and paying. If you’re a member and don’t know how to get into the site then send me a note using the support link up above.
- More bad news from 24DailyPro. I think the Admin is himself confused or is confusing members about the payout schedule. First he says that in the policies we are to be paid out within 7 business days. He says they have been paying us in nine (9) literal days, which has included weekends. For most of you this means that you have been paid earlier than was due you. OK, listen: nine literal days is actually 7 business days and in there there are 2 weekend days, making nine literal days! This has crippled the program? What he actually means is that most members have been paid out in LESS THAN 7 business days. And now we are to be paid in 9 business days. Whjch should mean 11 days total. Something does not smell right here.
- In the meantime, 13DailyPro continues to pay out on the same day that the upgrade expires. Except for just recenlty.... But... they did have a dB crash this weekend, or was it Friday? And were down for 3 hours. They have restored the dB, except for that three hours and are working to fix upgrades, expiries, and so on. So I would not panic over this minor glitch. And yes, upgrades can now be done again, so they are handling the situation. Plus the payments are still going out within the Terms of Service Agreement. So they are just about back on track! Sometimes it is just best to stay out of the FORUMS, because only about 5% of the folks signed up actually go there and post there, and there are some amongst that group that are just too skittish! Over any little problem they will question the viability of the programme! The rest of us remain happy, especially that we did not get dragged into all the negativity.
- Remember to check out readysetlaunch.com if you’re a TheWorldLaunch member, then get on the Conference Call (same call three times):
Times: 3:30 PM EST, 7:30 PM EST, 10:00 PM EST
605-990-0200
Pin: 234374 #
- Daily11surf was down for a few hours due to faulty hardware at the Hosting Company, not due to a DDoS attack. They are now back up and running smoothly.
- VipInv has just been added to the Reviews page. Click on the Reviews button up top, then Ctrl-F on VIPINV. It’s a good program and is growing very quickly.
- worldlaunch conf call June 26th
- launches today 4 PM EST
- go to theWorldLaunch site, click on the link there (says.... I'm ready....)
- if your sponsor is not a VMDirect affiliate yet, be patient, as they are waiting for the link from their sponsor (please do not go around this procedure) this may take a few days so be patient.
- after you join VMDirect you can go back to the site and have an option to sign up for the Roll Up feature (it's explained what it is there.... basically those who do not sign up, get cancelled, and their downline rolls up to you. This is basically Matrix Compression and these guys are charging you for that privelege! That's one thing I do not like. It should be a standard feature for active members).
- Co-Op will happen around August
- have been looking at 100s of lead generation companies
- August: targetted website will be a possibility, realtime
- August: normal coop, our own site, purchase some advertising, leads will also come in through the other sites we have
- WorldLaunch and BseenCafe sites will be updated with content and videos in the next two days
- if you're getting a lot of spam, that's a coincidence. There is some new emal cracking program out there spammers have started to use. I get a lot of those too now, stock info and such, cialis, etc.
- for the rest of the call there were just a number of simple questions, the answers to which are already on the WorldLaunch site and the readysetlaunch site.
- WorldLaunch is simply a marketing system that has been set up by an Affiliate of VMDirect.
- Residents in Canada WILL be able to JOIN at about 4:30 PM EST.
- the reason they have set up this system is because folks who simply sign up with VMDirect may end up with a sponsor who is fresh to the business and cannot train you or help you. So this system is designed to educate everyone, no matter who you signed up with. You can always get help, especially as VMDirect launches into new Countries.
- the reason they have set up this system is because folks who simply sign up with VMDirect may end up with a sponsor who is fresh to the business and cannot train you or help you. So this system is designed to educate everyone, no matter who you signed up with. You can always get help, especially as VMDirect launches into new Countries.
- it's a 3x8 matrix. There is spill over but you should not count on it. You will have to work the program to get paid deeper and deeper. This program is not passive. So just be aware of that. You do have the advantage of being able to place people wherever you want in your own matrix.
Ok, my link works now, but I can’t join yet as my sponsor has not yet joined and we must give him 24 hours. But I will call him right away (and sent an e-mail). So those of you who DO choose to join me, please be patient. I personally will, after I join the Company (VMDirect), go for the 30 day trial period.
My sponsor has reached me by e-mail. He will join tonight once he has returned home from work. I will join, and you should then be able to join as well. Please stay tuned. -- js
I just spoke with my sponsor. He tried to upgrade but there are some delay issues with the upgrade! So I still can’t join! Neither can you! I’ve e-mailed Support about this and told them that they should extend the wait period, before folks complain and try to get a another sponsor, for 3 days at least! 24 hours is NOT enough time. Oh well.
Finally, I tell you honestly, this is not a PASSIVE programme, despite the good product! So if you don’t have the energy, don’t join.
I just got this from my Sponsor:
“Remember you are up Remember you are upgrading on 2 websites the vm direct website
and the world launch website.The $69.95 upgrade on the vm direct
website only allows you to retail the products and make 20% monthly.
This will soon be free.And retailing the pruducts will not cost you
anything.To be part of the mlm side $299.99 will be the lowest cost.
Check out the vm direct website and the enroll tab,Everything is
correct as far as the cost of the packages.
When you upgrade on the world launch website your link will
appear for your downline to sign up,
Remember you are upgrading on 2 websites.
Hope this helps clear things up.
Thanks, Doug Lemaire
- So? That was my upline. AND I say... Forget about it! Unless you’re the active type! Shit! So much hype and we now learn this? Well at least you can trust me to tell you the truth. Am NOT going to pursue this. I DON’T have the energy and attention! Sorry! Product seems good but I just don’t have the energy to market it!
June 25th (Sunday)
- Have a great day!
- URGENT ALERT
The scammer of egoldspinner2 is at it again with dynamicegold.com! Same guy! The perpetrator has just added a few sites to his server, all scam sites:
Search Results for 72.29.81.100 [reverse DNS - server.besthosters.org]
10 Results for 72.29.81.100
Website DMOZ Yahoo
1. amazingdoubler.org0 listings0 listings
2. besthosters.org0 listings0 listings
3. dynamicegold.com0 listings0 listings
4. egold-daily.com0 listings0 listings
5. egoldace.com0 listings0 listings
6. egoldearning.com0 listings0 listings
7. egoldspinner2.com0 listings0 listings
8. godspeedfund.com0 listings0 listings
9. megadoubler.org0 listings0 listings
10. spinnerdoubler.com0 listings0 listings
In addition, a reader informs me that:
"Hi John
I thought I would pass this on in case its any use.
I used a separate email when I joined dynamic profits and since then I have received HYIP stuff to it (egoldace, egoldearning). This is the latest:
Great new hy1p! Visit the new webpage DynamicEgold.com
http://dynamicegold.com/?ref=vitaminc
Automatic deposits and withdrawals!
130-170% in 1 day
N66773
I also received a solicitation for Mach 90, which I know I did not ask for as it came to my Dynamic Profits e-mail. It has a name attached:
Ariel Manayon
abmanayon@yahoo.com.ph"
So the scammer of egoldspinner2 (his first site) may also be Crizu! Admin of Dynami-Profits.com! What a scammer! This is rich. Thanks to you, readers, we may be able to trcack this guy down!
- TheWorldLaunch: "We Open The Doors To The Launch On
Monday June, 26th At 3:00 PM EST!" You can sign in at readysetlaunch.com and read “The Launch, How it Works”.
VERY IMPORTANT Details: In your back office, you will see a new link that says, "I'm ready to join the company". (This will be live on MONDAY JUNE 26th AT 3:00 PM EST.) Once you click on that link, your sponsor will receive an email letting him or her know. Your sponsor will then contact their sponsor and let them know that they are ready to come on board. Once your sponsor enrolls as a paid Affiliate for the company, he/she will then email you the direct link to their website where you can enroll. - Now go to your WorldLaunch.com site (on Monday after 3 PM EST). As well, for the full details on this launch is going to proceed do go to readysetlaunch.com right now are read what’s there.
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2 LIVE Q&A CALLS TONIGHT!
Call: 605-990-0200
Pin: 234374 #
First Call....
When: 5:00 PM EST
10:00 PM GMT
7:00 AM Monday Sydney AU time
Second Call...
When: 9:00 PM EST
2:00 AM GMT
11:00 AM Monday Sydney AU time
Please go through the ReadySetLaunch site FIRST, then jump onto the call. We will be there to answer any questions that
you may have.
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- Well I don’t know about you but am pretty impressed with VMDirect, the Company that TheWorldLaunch is launching with. Basically TheWorldLaunch are an affiliates team with VMDirect and they have their own websites and marketing systems to promote VMDirect’s products. You will be joining them as an affiliate with them and taking advantage of their systems. There is a 30 day trial period for $14.95 (I think) and a full year subscription for $99.95 USD. So if you are looking for a real opportunity, with real products, and have the energy and attention, then this is the one for you. But... if you wish to continue playing the ponzis and autosurfs, then it is not for you. Full details about VMDirect are available at the readysetlaunch.com site.
- Well Dadndave’s is up but not up. Keep trying! Pain in the butt!
- Wachovia Update
The State of Delaware has filed a warrant to seize all the money held by UniClear at Wachovia Bank. The warrant is based on the Patriot Act allowing funds involved in criminal activities to be seized by the government. This means that EVERYBODY LOSES THEIR MONEY TO THE USA GOVERNMENT.
In order to prove their case they are trying to get IPTS clients to contact them and tell them all about the money they invested via iPTS with KUM Ventures using numerous lies, misinformation and scare tactics. This will give them all the proof they need to seize the money. Once it has been allowed it goes into the US government's coffers and will NEVER be returned to investors. This is a BIG lie and deception.
In fact, as an account holder with iPTS Inc. you have not invested in anything through iPTS. You have an account with iPTS Inc. who act as a online payment service provider. You the member of iPTS have done any transfer of funds to KUM or any other investment company. iPTS is just a vehicle like a checking acccount in this venture of yours, the member.
UniClear's attorneys have been preparing to fight this action but if IPTS members make statements that they were involved in any schemes that can be found to be criminal such as KUM Ventures, then everyone except the government, looses.
Click Here for the archived developments in the Wachovia Situation.
- Can’t even get a Sunday off!
- Dear 24DP Members - now this is a red flag, ok? Blah blah blah, whimpering! Yes we hope YOUR weekend is a good one. We just don’t understand why you can’t learn about rotating!? After all, that’s not a new idea. Rotate!
We have some staff and Admins that are going to be taking a sabbatical for a few days (some longer than others) so we want all to know that ALL payouts will resume on Monday June the 26th. We understand that this might cause an uproar but such is life and people need to understand that we are human as well. We NEED some time away! We are working very hard for you behind the scenes and on top of that we have paid you flawlessly for the past 7 months EVERY 9 days without fail when most should have been paid between 11-13 days because of the business days payout scenario. The least we can ask is for a few days to ourselves�. We will have a skeleton crew on tickets for a few days so any tickets that come in asking about our time away or payouts etc. will just be deleted without being answered. Also, any tickets that come in with monetary or surfing problems will be attended to but nothing will be paid out until Monday.
We thank you for your understanding and hope that your weekend is a good one.
Sincerely,
24DP Admin.
- dd privatedailysurf
I really don't get this one:
Plan Return Surfing Duration Daily Surfing
Requirement Min. Spend Max. Spend
Fast Track Plan 28.00% After 5 days 28 sites $50.00 $10000.00
Longevity Plan 8.00% After 30 days 40 sites $100.00 $15000.00
So you see that the longevity plan is 20% lower than the fast track plan? And 25 days later? Should be the other way around! Or am I daft?
This is insane!
June 24th (Saturday)
- An announcement from an old spiiner, disappointing all of us! Yes indeed.
“STARTING TODAY, WE AT RJHI HAVE DECIDED TO PUT THINGS ON HOLD FOR A BIT WHILE WE WORK OUT SOME ISSUES.
WE HAVE ALSO DECIDED THAT IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST ON THE PROGRAMME TO REFUND ALL USERS WHO ARE NOT IN PROFIT THEIR INTIAL DEPOSIT AND 100% INTEREST.
WE DECIDED TO DO THIS COS OF A LOT OF REASONS AND MOST EXPECIALLY, THERE IS A LOT OF BACKLOG ALREADY AND IN OTHER TO PUT EVERYONE IN BLACK, IT IS NECCESARY THAT WE CLOSED DOWN ONLINE OPERATIONS FOR A BIT WHILE WE WORKED AT THE MOST IMMEDIATE TASK OF PUTTIND EVERYONE WHO IS NOT IN PROFIT IN BLACK..YOU WILL RECIEVE YOUR INITIAL DEPOSIT BACK AND 100% INTO YOUR E-CURRENCY ACCT REGISTERED WITH RJHI.
AFTER THIS HAS BEEN ACHIEVED COMPLETELY, THE DATABASE WILL BE DELETED AND THE PROGRAMME WILL START AGAIN ...
IF YOU STILL WISH TO BE PART OF THE PROGRAMME, YOU CAN THEN JOIN AGAIN BY SIGING UP A BRAND NEW ACCT...
ALL THOSENIN PROFITS ALREADY WILL NOT BE PAID ANYTHING...
BUT AFTER WE ARE DONE REFUNDING AND OAYING THE SAID 100% INTEREST TO THOSE NOT IN PROFIT, WE MAY DECIDE TO GIVE A BONUS TO ALL OTHER MEMBERS...
PLEASE NOTE THAT WE ARE NOT CLOSING DOWN RJHI, WE ARE SIMPLY TRYING TO DO WHAT WE THINK IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ALL PARTIES INVOLVED TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE IS PUT IN THE BLACK IN RJHI...
THIS PROCESS WILL TAKE ABOUT 60DAYS TO COMPLETE AS I WILL PERSONALLY CROSS CHECK ALL DATA TO ENSURE ACCURACY..
A NEW ISSUE AROSE THAT DEPOSITS WERE DISAPPEARING...THIS WAS BECAUSE WE RAN A NEW CRON JOB BUT DO NOT WORRY, WE WILL RESOLVE THAT IF YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE THAT IS NOT YET IN PROFIT...
PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE WORKED HARD, ALL OF US AND THE MODS TO KEEP THIS PROGRAMME UP AND RUNNING..
ITS NOT OUR INTENTION TO CAUSE FINANCIAL LOSS TO ANYONE THAT ASSOCIATED WITH US THAT IS WHY WE HAVE DECIDED TO GO THIS ROUTE...
THE WEBSITE WILL BE UP, YOUR ACCTS WILL BE UP WHILE WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS...
DATABASE WILL BE DELETED AT THE END....
THANKS TO ALL FOR ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT..
GOD BLESS,
RJHI ADMINISTRATION.. “ I think we are dead.
- Join me!
Success University!
It was on the news recently, Success University has become the #1 most visited, most successful work-at-home program on the internet!
Today I'm going to make it very easy for you to join. I would like you to donate $2 to a charity called 'Feed the Children'. Why? Because in return I am offering you a FREE 14-day trial membership in Success University!
Why am I doing this? So that you can refer others and offer them the same FREE opportunity and provided they stay with the program for more than 2 weeks, you will get paid. In addition any person I refer will be automatically placed in your downline to earn you more money. You can make a lot of money out of these free trial memberships!
What have you got to lose? Go to https://jstankiewicz1.successuniversity.com/Signup/MainSignup.aspx and enroll now!
js
- dd GlobalPensionPlan
http://202.76.235.46/?id=micronuts
Am going to review this one shortly. For now... join up! I have it on good authority that it's a good one!
“The Global pension Plan is based on mortgaging a pension insurance contract and is similar to property mortgaging when using the property itself as a collateral. The policy is a legally binding agreement given by a reputable insurance company. My subscribers have assured me that this is an established technique used by the rich to become even more rich!
It costs a one time $35. At some stage they plan to change this to 30 Euro, which is a slight increase, so now is the time to join!
Amazingly you stand to receive $55,000 with no extra costs involved. The only snag is that they have to get membership up to 100,000 before the payout can occur. So join in and tell your friends! You will receive $2000 for each person that you introduce! (at some point) But only after the 100,000 is reached. There's also an active forum.
Go to: http://202.76.235.46/?id=micronuts
Cost just $35 E-gold.
Please use micronuts as your referrer.”
js
- Patrick Kelly! Best you send me an e-mail using the support link up above as am unable to reach you!
- http://www.thelistfx.com/ls/?secrets=5299 Check this one out! It may help you! It’s true, building your own list should be a priority, if you really wish to make some money here.
- Many of you have asked me about GOD, but not God. And the time is due! The 25% bonus will be over by end of June! GOD is plentiful! GOD is just! GOD is rewarding! But we’re not talking about God, just GOD! Am sure you understand! Do you wish to ask me about GOD?
- Daily11Surf announcement:
“Hello
We have three important pieces of information today we need to make sure all members understand.
1. Many members are still confused regarding our cash out system. Again I will explain how it works. Each member is allowed to request a cash out request ONCE per week. Our business week starts Midnight Sunday Evening (12:00.01am Monday). Example, you could request a payout on Saturday, and then again any time after the start of the new business week.
2. Our host has informed us that the have increased the RAM on the server, and at the same time improved the level of DDOS protection that was already in place. This is an example of the quality of our host. These improvements were done without a request from us. Many members have been asking about DDOS protection and as we have stated before any good quality host should provide this service for free.
3. We have great pleasure to announce that we have a new member of staff at Daily11Surf. The role in question is to provide support at the major forums we have active threads in. The decision to hire a member of staff for this role was simple. Daily11Surf is run by David and I. David looked after the promotion / Customer Support role while I performed all daily routines. Due to the increase in work load David's role has changed a little where he will also help with the daily day to day running of the business. This will ensure that all members’ cash out requests are processed as normal and the daily tasks within the business are carried out in a well managed way.
Overall David and I are very happy with the first 11 days of the business. We are receiving great support from the members and stand in a fantastic position.
All the Best
Bruce Stevensen”
- Update from WorldLaunch!
Dear John,
Is there is any way that you can be at
your computer on Sunday?
Here's what will be happening:
On Sunday around 12:00 PM EST, we
will open the doors to the training website,
http://www.readysetlaunch.com
You will then be able to go over all of the
information about the company, products,
compensation plan, launch details, etc.
Then, on Monday June 26th at 3:00 PM EST,
we will launch the new WorldLaunch back
office where you can enroll as paid Affiliates
for the company and start earning your
commissions!
Be sure you contact everyone that you
have enrolled on your WorldLaunch
website and let them know about this
launch in case they missed this email.
We will email you as soon as the new
http://www.readysetlaunch.com is ready
on Sunday.
Get ready! Get set! Launch!
See you there Jack!
Rob and Ken
TheWorldLaunch
Please send any support related questions to your enroller. Thank you.
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- Well I knew that this one was toast... how can I believe it if I have $5M+ of funny money sitting in my account? Here is the forum post which ends it all, or maybe not! Let’s see what happens.
June 23rd (Friday)
June 22nd (Thursday)
- These sites will ensure you don't lose in your autosurfing! It's like insurance!
dd isurf4you.com and autosurfs.biz
I have been given information to the effect that autosurfs.biz's idea was acquired from isurf4u.com, which has been in business just over 23 days.
Here is what one of my readers said about the whole thing:
"Don't let those guys over at AlertpayPro make you think they came up with that concept and were mulling over it for a month. They ripped off isurf4you, but at least they threw in their own little twist just so that it's not total plagiarism
isurf4you has been in existance for about a month now." (Well, close).
In any case, I am of the opinion and even belief that ideas come to folks even simultaneously, all around the planet. There are many cases that show this to be true. The invention of radio transmission, for instance, was hit upon by two folks, almost simultaenously. This is also true of electricity and if you study the matter, many ideas in all fields of endeavor.
So I would not necessarily say that the AlertpayPro folks "stole" the idea from isurf4u, as I don't have any proof. So the best thing to say is that it is a great idea and the two sites should do well with this. Why? Well, many of us are tired of surfing 3+ sites per day, having to remember that, and also we are at risk of losing a lot of money. Both sites pick what they feel are the top surf sites at the time and spread our money throughout them. If one or two of the surf sites fail, we are still likely to be in profit. A smaller profit, but that is much better than being at a loss.
So here are the two links:
http://isurf4you.com/?ref=micronuts and
http://www.autosurfs.biz/index.php/?ref=834
By the way, this is NO NEW idea! This one has been practiced in the HYIP arena by quite a few sites! Well, most failed. Why? Because most of the HYIPs were scams.
Here are some highlights from isurf4you:
"With isurf4you.com you have a unique opportunity to earn and exceptional amount of money. We are not like other HYIP sites that require you withdraw and then reinvest. With us you simply purchase a membership and then you get paid on the 1st and the 15th of each month. For further details on how this program will work please see the FAQ’s page. I believe that once you examine the plan laid out, you will understand how easy it will be to sustain this program for a long time to come.
isurf4you.com is a long term high yield private loan program, backed up by the profits generated by our investments; autosurfs, HYIP's, and investing in various funds and activities. Profits from these investments are used to enhance our program and increase its stability for the long term.
This is an overview of how it works:
1) You invest in Isurf4you.com
2) I use that money to invest in autosurfs, solid Hyips, and other programs as they arise
3) We then earn a profit on the money invested
4) The principle amount is subtracted and we are left with the pure profit
5) That “pure profit” is then divided 3 ways
a) 60% to the members of the program
b) 30% is compounded into the principle amount
c) 10% admin fees
6) then the principle amount plus the new 30% is reinvested for the next time period
As you can see based on this model this program is self sustaining and does not need new monies to pay old members, making this a “real” Hyip and not a ponzi.
Join us here and we will all make a profit and the best part is your membership NEVER EXPIRES you earn FOREVER"
And here are some highlights from autosurfs.biz:
"In the past month we have seen more then a handful of well known autosurfs go out of business and dozens and dozens of less popular surfs have also bit the dust. Last night, I personally rewrote an autosurf script with an idea of mine that has been brewing for months. If you check the alertpaypro.com forum you will notice a few posts made by myself mentioning a mutual surf. I stayed up for the last 48 hours writing and re-writing and tweaking this script because I saw yet another major autosurf go out of business and take a lot of members money. As you know we here at http://alertpaypro.com and http://autosurfingpros.com have always done everything we can to keep our members safe and steer them in the right direction so that they do not get scammed. We believe that our new mutual surf program has eliminated all of the risks associated with the autosurf industry. Please read below slowly and carefully, this is not a letter that you should skim through. Do not ask us questions about this. If you do not understand the program then it is not for you.In our continuing effort to revolutionize the autosurf industry, we are offering a new, unique and innovative program. http://autosurfs.biz.
The mission of this program is to provide services which will prevent members from losing money on autosurfs.
Here is a brief overview of how it works:
Members may purchase an amount of mutual surf packs. Each Surf Pack as a certain value. We will say $5.00 per Surf Pack for use of our example.
Members may purchase any amount of Surf Packs up to the max which is displayed on the site.
Here is a quick sample of how things would work live:
member1 purchases 10 Surf Packs at $5 each = $50
member2 purchases 20 Surf Packs at $5 each = $100
member3 purchases 50 Surf Packs at $5 each = $250We than place this money into autosurf programs (which will be listed at http://autosurfs.biz/forum - our portfolio)
Members (you) decide where and how much is placed. There will be an exclusive forum which will be placed at http://autosurfs.biz. The more Surf Packs a member has the more say they have in the company.So, for example we now have $400 total in the system with 80 Surf Packs purchased.
We take the $400 and divide it between the programs listed on http://autosurfs.biz/forum. Lets say there are ten programs.
To make this example easy we will just say that each program is 10% daily for 20 days.
we place 40 in each program and after 20 days should get back 800 dollars = $400 profit.
The admin takes 10%, and 10% is placed back into Surf Pack value (more later) leaving $320 profit. This $320 is then given back to members in the form of dividends - $320 / 80 (total number of Surf Packs) = $4.00 dividend per Surf Pack owned.
member1 gets $4.00 X 10Surf Packs = $40
member2 gets $4.00 X 20Surf Packs = $80
member3 gets $4.00 X 50Surf Packs = $200So all the members profited. And still own their Surf Packs!Now remember above 10% was going back to Surf Pack value, what does this mean.
The 10% = $40 is placed back into the total Surf Pack value $40 / 80 Surf Packs = .50 per Surf Pack. The value of the Surf Pack just rose from $5.00 to $5.50!So let's say member1 could now continue and wait for another dividend or sell his 10 Surf Packs back at $5.50 each giving him $55 + he earned $40 from the dividends = $95
That's if everything goes well and none of the autosurfs go under....But what if one did?
Let's replay that situation with 2 of the autosurfs going out of business:
We place 40 in each program and after 20 days should get back 800 dollars = $400 profit.
Lets's say 2 of the autosurfs go under and take everyones money
So we only receive $640 back = $240 in profit. The admin takes 10%, and 10% is placed back into Surf Pack value (more later) leaving $192 profit. This $192 is then given back to members in the form of dividends - $192 / 80 (total number of Surf Packs) = $2.40 dividend per Surf Pack owned.
member1 gets $2.40 X 10Surf Packs = $24
member2 gets $2.40 X 20Surf Packs = $48
member3 gets $2.40 X 50Surf Packs = $120So all the members profited. And still own their Surf Packs which they can sell back at the current price!Now remember above 10% was going back to Surf Pack value, what does this mean.
The 10% = $24 is placed back into the total Surf Pack value $24 / 80 Surf Packs = .30 per Surf Pack. The value of the Surf Pack just rose from $5.00 to $5.30!
So let's say member1 could now continue and wait for another dividend or sell his 10 Surf Packs back at $5.30 each giving him $53 + he earned $24 from the dividends = $77Now, you may say - why don't I just put money into an autosurf myself? You can. But, by doing so you also take all the risk. For example, let's say you are member1 and instead of putting the $50 with autosurfs.biz you can never lose all your money, you either do not gain as much or you profit greatly!If you have understood everything above congratulations we would like you to join the program, if you did not understand than just sit back and continue to autosurf, this program is for the advanced autosurfers.
After the initial amount of our members join, then all future members will have to join through members ref links so that they can get the commissions as our way of saying thanks for being the first members to join. As of right now, there are no commissions and referrals will not count for anything. This is for APP and ASP members ONLY at this time. We believe this is another step in the right direction of changing the autosurf industry and keeping members safe from losing money in the autosurf industry.
Thank you for everyone's continued support and we will continue and strive to keep trust and reliability in this industry.
Regards,
AlertPayPro/AutoSurfingPros Teams
p.s. for all questions regarding the new program please ONLY use the support ticket system in the autosurfs.biz members area or contact the admins and or mods at the autosurfs.biz/forum. The forum is password protected, you will have to get the passwords from the members area of autosurfs.biz"
So here we are again:
http://isurf4you.com/?ref=micronuts and
http://www.autosurfs.biz/index.php/?ref=834
Both!
js
Sincerely,
John stankiewicz.
- DrunkOnLife has an interesting survey in which you should partake! “How long have you been involved in money making sites and are you in profit?” He will then publish the results and his musings in his newsletter! Have a look!
- A very good update from an old spinner. Things are getting back on track. Visit their forum to see the latest update.
- From Ad Titans:
“Hello Everyone,
I have a topic of serious discussion that needs immediate addressing. I have been doing some forecasting with our growth patterns, and am starting to see a trend that could potentially damage the longevity of this site. When we first started this site, many members will vouch for me that we discussed that a healthy rate of Fast Track members versus Standard Payment members should exist around 25-30%. This figure was derived from an outside investment pace that could sustain that rate on a nearly infinite time frame. Fast Track has grown to comprise nearly 85% of the member base, and is starting a trend to outpace what the outside investments can keep up with.
Translation: The Fast Track protocol is beginning to cannibalize the company. Having that knowledge is unnaceptable to me. I will not sit idly by and watch the program destroy itself. I will not be known as an admin that waited until the last possible minute to implement the appropriate changes necessary to properly balance the program to my original intentions. I will be known as an admin that took proactive measures to ensure longevity in a successful program.
As of tonight, we are changing the Fast Track fee structure to reflect a flat rate of 9% across the board with a payout schedule not to exceed the original stated two (2) business days. We will then wait 30 calendar days to then reevaluate the network statistics to ensure proper balance has been restored to not exceed 30% of the user base utilizing the Fast Track option. If we still find that an excess of 30% of the user base is still using the Fast Track option at that time, we will again increase the Fast Track fee structure.
We fully realize this kind of an email tends to send ripples of panic through the industry. I fully expect to get my fair share of backlash because I am preemtively making a move to protect the long term vision of this company. I'm going to "up the ante" here (as some of the forum members have stated), and make an offer. I made this offer once before when we first started, when people thought we were someone we weren't. If this letter causes you to lose faith in the AD Titans Network and me as an admin, then send me an e-mail requesting to cash you out immediately. Understand, you will lose your place in the company (including referrals) as well as earnings from any days of surfing for this current pay cycle. You will get your original upgrade amount back minus extra earnings. Optionally, you can wait until the end of your pay cycle and cashout according to standard practices. I have always shot straight with my member base, and I would like to think that I have gained a certain amount of trust with you folks. I refuse to be anything but transparent. I have always been so and will continue on in this practice.
Thanks,
Edward Adams” - no comment.
- 13DailyPro: Two of my readers asked me if the change in server time is not a red flag? Here is my response:
“Actually, it never hit me that it was a red flag. I recall some folks complaining that the server time was inconvenient as they were forced to watch their clocks in case they missed surfing....but I told them to simply either wait for the next day and surf at the same time, or surf after 6PM EST. Of course then the server was on maintenance, so it was more like at 7PM EST.
And apparently a lot of folks requested they change that server time, so they did.
So ....I don't think they made or saved money from this, as it actually gave those of us on EST and CST one more day to wait... those with upgrades as well, so in fact, 13dp missed out on a day of upgrades, most likely. “
What do you think?” I don’t see this as a red flag. So how much longer will they last? It’s hard to say as we are entering into the slowest days of the year due to folks taking vacations. So things may slow down during July and August, and if they last through that period, things will again pick up in September and onwards. Things can also further slow down if any of us starts to lower our upgrades, and that could kill the programme. Let’s keep a close eye on this one. I myself so far am putting in a fair chunk in there.
- I am about to publish a review of both isurf4you.com and autosurfs.biz, both are using similar concepts. Stay tuned. Please do not sign up until I have a good handle on both of them! Should be soon. Tonight or tomorrow morning. js
- Shop Right, the folks that give you the chance to earn in the Oil Industry by purchasing shares in the Company (see Reviews page, Ctrl-F on Shop Right) have a call tonight:
“TONIGHT....is our Question & Answer Call.
1-641-793-7500 pin 736913# 8:30 p.m. (Central)
THIS SATURDAY Rex Shannon our International Marketing Director will be providing a blitz
of Recruiting calls at 1-3-5 & 7 p.m. (EASTERN)
If we get word about our new SENIOR FOCUS GROUP PROGRAM...we will let you know by email when that call will take place.
The commission check will be going out tomorrow.
To date we have paid out over $250,000 in earned commissions. WOW, great job.
Success Always,
Alex Jakubowski
Sincerely,
Affiliates Manager
Shop Right”
- WorldLaunch announcement!
“We are getting close to the phase one
launch into the company.
http://www.readysetlaunch.com
Everything you need to know will soon
be provided to you via the new website, live
video broadcasts, and live Q&A conference
calls.
In just a few more days...
Check out: http://www.readysetlaunch.com
Get ready.
Please join us on a live conference
call tonight to learn more about this
incredible business!
Call details:
When: Tonight
Time: 9:00 PM EST (New York Time Zone)
Call: 212-990-8000
Pin: 5788 #
Rob and Ken
TheWorldLaunch” Check it out! Links there are not yet active. Will be once they launch!
- Another positive update from WORLDLPP.COM, the folks that invest in various real-world businesses for us and make us money! Check them out on the Reviews Page, just Ctrl-F on WORLDLPP. They are opening yet a third business for us! So far so good. I’ve been making money in this one.
“Hi everyone. Conrad here once again. Sorry for the delays in getting you an update, but we have been very busy. This first update will be a short one, but we will have more within the next day or two.
First, I would like to welcome aboard our new board members of the IT Center. They are both regular members - just like you are - except they are now on our board and will help to oversee the development of our center. They are David Mueller and Sung Park. I am going to ask them (right now) to provide our members with updates after each meeting so that you can all see what is happening. They will provide information to you from a WLPP member's perspective as well as a board member. We will post those in the update section as we go along. Our first board meeting is scheduled for either the end of this month, or sometime next month.
Now for some good news - we have selected Program #3!! The IT Center is doing nicely as we said in our last update, and Vivamin is still undergoing a transformation and will be going again very soon. We will announce the new program shortly - hopefully within the next few days, so please watch for our email. That's all for now, but more will follow very shortly. Stand by and g'day.
Conrad”
- 24DailyPro: Is this another red flag?
Yes, I admit that folks have to take a few days off. Vacations and such. With normal businesses! But NOT with ONLINE 24/7 businesses! Now am not saying that staff should not take time off. What am saying is that to keep a programme like this running one must hire other staff, temps even, for the period of time when the regular staff will be gone. Surely Admin is taking enough in comission to allow for this? If not? It's poorly thought out! Not a real business! You can't let an autosurf get behind in anything! Not in Support response, not in upgrades, and not in payouts! Else the programme folds as clients lose confidence.
So yes, to me, this is yet another red flag. Never mind the comment about being human! How about being a savvy Business Person!?
"Dear 24DP Members,
We have some staff and Admin’s that are going to be taking a sabbatical for a few days (some longer than others) so we want all to know that ALL payouts will resume on Monday June the 26th. We understand that this might cause an uproar but such is life and people need to understand that we are human as well. We NEED some time away! We are working very hard for you behind the scenes and on top of that we have paid you flawlessly for the past 7 months EVERY 9 days without fail when most should have been paid between 11-13 days because of the “business day” payout scenario. The least we can ask is for a few days to ourselves…. We will have a skeleton crew on tickets for a few days so any tickets that come in asking about our time away or payouts etc. will just be deleted without being answered. Also, any tickets that come in with monetary or surfing problems will be attended to but nothing will be paid out until Monday.
We thank you for your understanding and hope that your weekend is a good one.
Sincerely,
24DP Admin."
- SuccessUniversity Announcement!
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Invite as many guests as possible and let the SYSTEM do your selling...
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- Am reviewing this one as well: daily11surf.com. Looks pretty good. Just got started about 8 days ago so pretty high risk. Keep your eye on it! (8:16 PM EST) Ok, here is the review: (Use the Reviews button up top to find Daily11surf and sign up.)
dd daily11surf
Very intersting site. They are all about 11:11, the opening of the gate, and so on. 1.11 are the ugprades. Ones everywhere! Sounds to me like someone quite Spiritual who is running the site. Or at least a Seeker.
In any case, 8 days old as of this review. So I would be cautious if I were you. Put in a test spend sure, or... lurk around and see how well this one gets picked up by some nice lists and how well they do in the various forums.
Once you are comfy that they are being picked up (about a month from now I'd say, or two, due to the summer holidays), then get in with some major bucks. Get out 50% and put 50% back in. Do that until you start seeing the popularity peaking, then start to get your money out entirely. Don't succumb to greed!
So that's my advice for now.
Some DD: Hidden behind a proxy, that's fine. Standard privacy procedure. Server in New Jersey.
daily11surf.com resolves to 69.72.244.19
Oh Oh! There are 15 other sites on that server! And at least 3 other surf sites on that same server! This shows me that they are not SERIOUS (as yet)! If they get popular they will have to interrupt service and move to a dedicated server. Oh well. So for now I'd say this is pretty risky! I put in a small spend to test it out.
Search Results for 69.72.244.19 [no reverse DNS set]
16 Results for 69.72.244.19
Website DMOZ Yahoo
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6. daily11surf.com0 listings0 listings
7. earnsurfpro.com0 listings0 listings
8. egoldgalore.com0 listings0 listings
9. greencashmails.com0 listings0 listings
10. lion-surf.com0 listings0 listings
11. margiegerow.com0 listings0 listings
12. multipliedreturns.com0 listings0 listings
13. paid2recruit.com0 listings0 listings
14. signaturesurveys.com0 listings0 listings
15. surfanearn.com0 listings0 listings
16. surfanearn.net0 listings0 listings
Domain Whois Results:
Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: DAILY11SURF.COM
Created on: 09-Jun-06
Expires on: 09-Jun-07
Last Updated on: 10-Jun-06
Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration DAILY11SURF.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2599
- dd extmclub.com
This one is a laugh. Just look at their stats: Invested about 25 grand, paid out about half that, then.... deposits of six bucks, payouts of five cents on the 23rd? What?
Club Statistics:
Number of Club Members: 3822
Invested: $25261.87
Paid Out: $12573
Deposits: Jun,23 2006 8:29 $6.00
Jun,23 2006 8:03 $1.00
Jun,23 2006 7:57 $1.00
PayOuts: Jun,23 2006 5:12 $0.05
Jun,22 2006 22:48 $0.05
Jun,22 2006 2:44 $1.05
Top Club Members: Mar,20 2006 19:37 $1980.52
May,17 2006 16:39 $1400.00
Apr,01 2006 9:24 $1001.00
These seem to be not only wrong but very questionable.
Ugh. I don't feel like doing any more research on this one! Can you blame me?
js
I think they're broke!
June 21st (Wednesday)
- 13DailyPro has changed server time to CST! Effectively they’ve turned back the clock, now I can’t surf until tomorrow! You best log in and make sure you have surfed for the 21st of June. Try surfing in any case, just in case.
- 11 AM EST: Concerning fastcashdoubler: Well folks, am not sure. I’ll have to wait and see until I get paid.
I think this is a dead site. Don’t bother with it. Someone with userid: sofia sesnt this one to me, so I decided to play. Hopefully most of you stayed out.
- This one opened Sunday, shut down, and now has reopened.
http://www.diggos.com/?micronuts
Thanks to Peter, my sponsor, for this review.
"Having launched Diggos.com and closed it within hours on Monday, Peter Sweeney had second thoughts and has re-opened.
Here's Peter's announcement on why it closed and has now re-opened:
First thing was I had an auto accident and when I got home from the e.r. there was a message that gewts owners asked to be removed from our site. I assumed it would be best to close and refund because I thought it would take days to change the website and get rid of all references to gewts. Anyway, Vicki and many others wrote me a many emails lifting my spirits, they all asked to re-open. I wrote to the programmer asking him to help change the whole site which I expected to take several days. Amazingly the programmer had the entire website changed in a matter of hours! Thanks goes out to all the supportive emails and posts, you touched my heart with your kind words of support and desires to re-open. You will notice that the programmer also left all the previous ads and credits in your accounts as a free bonuses to all those who made purchases. I must apologize for my lack of faith in the members and there ability to believe in me and support me through these times, I will never doubt your support again! Please join the forum or send me emails at admin@diggos.com if you have any questions. CHEERS Peter
Here are the details again. I am certainly prepared to give the program another go and have gone in with $200.
It's based on the PointShareXtreme format, but hopefully will pay out on time!
Here's what I received from my upline:
NEW INVESTMENT PROGRAM JUST LAUNCHED!
Cash Back System details
We have a simple way for all paying members to receive 200% cash back on all purchases within 40 days or less.
Each purchase of $20 in ad credits is tracked in your back office as a "lot". Every lot will be given a countdown of 40 days. Members are limited to 25 lots purchase per day.
Referral System details
Dual incentive referral system
#1 You get 1% of every spend on three tiers of
unlimited affiliates in your team.
Tier 1 1%
Tier 2 1%
Tier 3 1%
Total 3%
#2 You can lower the countdown of each "lot" by up to 30 and
get 200% cash back in as little as 10 days!
Each time one of your tier 1 affiliates makes a purchase of $20 worth of ad credits, your countdown on one "lot" is lowered by 6.
So for 5 tier one sales of $20 - your "lot" countdown is reduced to 10 from 40.
http://www.Diggos.com/?micronuts
I have just purchased a $200 Ad Package.
Minimum purchase is $20, E-gold or e-Bullion. The program is only just re-opened, take advantage of this early call.
The forum is at: http://www.diggos.com/forum/
Peter Sweeney who runs Diggos.com has posted the following message in the forum which gives an insight into his vision for this program:
Cash-back is paid from sales and three other sources.
Obviously there is a limit to doubling money every 40 days.
Let's be realistic, it is possible to do, I have done it, but impossible
to do on a consistent basis for long periods of time. Otherwise I would
control the world and have all the wealth in the world.
Limitations are at 144k/mo and increasing as other sources are
compounded. We have sources that produce very stable and high
returns every 60 days. We are bound by NDA and can't discuss
the details. Each month our abilities double until we reach the
limit of this particular deal. By then there will be other deals that
can and will expand our portfolio past the 8 figure cap. ($xx,xxx,xxx.00) per month.
So I believe we have a path for many to attain a nice monthly
(10-40 day) part time income stream.
I do not see capacity limits being met for 1-2 years.
At that time I will determine our next step to take Diggos into
a private venture group that deals on a more one to one basis
with those interested.
My intention or goal is to see us meet the 8 figure cap in 1 year then decide whether to expand or change into a private venture group.
CHEERS
Peter"
There you have it! A programme similar to PointShareXtreme but hopefully .... paying! The only thing I wonder about is why gewts.com was removed?
Sincerely,
John Stankiewicz
Admin: http://9PlanetReviews.com
some DD:
Nothing suspicious. It's on a dedicated server.
diggos.com resolves to 72.29.95.215
Search Results for 72.29.95.215 [reverse DNS - 72-29-95-215.dimenoc.com]
1 Results for 72.29.95.215
Website DMOZ Yahoo
1. diggos.com0 listings0 listings
Domain Whois Results:
Registrant:
RegisterFly.com - Ref-R# 36971290
404 Main Street
4th Floor
Boonton, NJ 07005
US
Domain name: DIGGOS.COM
Administrative Contact:
- ProtectFly.com, Whois Protection Service pwshwvhb7zg323w@protectfly.com
404 Main Street
4th Floor
Boonton, NJ 07005
US
+1.9737362545 Fax: +1.9737361355
Technical Contact:
- ProtectFly.com, Whois Protection Service nmxgbmbjwhtubfh@protectfly.com
404 Main Street
4th Floor
Boonton, NJ 07005
US
+1.9737362545 Fax: +1.9737361355
Registration Service Provider:
RegisterFly.com, inc., support@registerfly.com
+1.9737362545
This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords,
DNS/Nameserver changes, and general domain support questions.
Registrar of Record: REGISTERFLY.COM, INC.
Record last updated on 07-Jun-2006.
Record expires on 04-Jun-2007.
Record created on 04-Jun-2006.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.BIGPROHOST.COM 72.29.95.213
NS2.BIGPROHOST.COM 72.29.95.214
Domain status: ACTIVE
IP Whois Results:
Connecting to whois.arin.net...
OrgName: HostDime.com, Inc.
OrgID: DIMEN-6
Address: 111 North Orange Ave
Address: Suite 1050
City: Orlando
StateProv: FL
PostalCode: 32801
Country: US
ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.dimenoc.com:4321
NetRange: 72.29.64.0 - 72.29.95.255
CIDR: 72.29.64.0/19
NetName: HOSTDIME-PI-1
NetHandle: NET-72-29-64-0-1
Parent: NET-72-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: PTR1.DIMENOC.COM
NameServer: PTR2.DIMENOC.COM
Comment:
RegDate: 2005-01-26
Updated: 2005-08-11
OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE796-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Abuse
OrgAbusePhone: +1-407-426-7844
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@dimenoc.com
OrgTechHandle: NETWO742-ARIN
OrgTechName: Network Engineers
OrgTechPhone: +1-407-426-7844
OrgTechEmail: network@dimenoc.com
# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2006-06-20 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
Checking Port 80...
Port 80 is open and accepting connections.
Ping Results:
Ping server http://diggos.com (41.8 ms)
Site link http://diggos.com OK!
- 24DP red flags
Some of you have asked me what are the red flags I see with 24DP. It's not about having a keener eye than some of you, it's about intuition and a technical background in my case. When reading an Admin Update for instance, certain things that the Admin says, and how he says them, tend to have an effect on me. I don't bother analyzing too much, but these do accumulate.
So let me give you a few examples:
"If you are going to continue to treat your account like it does not matter then we are going to treat your account the same way and not credit you. We feel that ANY serious marketer should be looking at their account daily so they know exactly what is going on so nothing is missed or overlooked."
The above is very brazen and short-sighted. The Admin is using the excuse that if you don't notice a problem with your account within 24 hours and post a ticket within that time, then Admin will not credit you. And the reason? You’re not a serious marketer. Well excuse me Admin! But most of your surfing clients ARE NOT EXPERIENCED MARKETERS! Many of them are folks who can only afford to put in $100 or less (and there’s a monthly $30 fee to pay on top of that). There are only SOME experienced marketers in your client base and they likely watch their accounts like hawks watch for their prey.
So you see the Admin here is getting angry over the workload and is lashing out at the client base. This is a sign of impending trouble. Never yell or be angry at the client base!
Another recent update has as the Subject line: Slowness and Payouts. I don't know about you, but that troubles me somewhat. Of course the text of the message appears to be benign. But what has installing a switch, which offers 1000 Mbps (or 1 Gigabit per second), anything to do with the speed of payouts? You see, I'm an Engineer, and I know that the bottleneck is in the speed of the uplink, and downlink, to their ISP! Am sure with ADSL they have perhaps a 3Mbps downlink and maybe 2Mbps uplink. The local area network (which currently is likely made up of a router) is already at 100 Mbps! The switch will only be faster at the LOCAL level, not to the Internet!
I know how switches work! And again, as you can see the limiting factor is not the LAN (whether run by a switch or a router), but the uplink and downlink to the Internet via their ISP. There should not have been any delay in payouts while the switch was being put in. All they had to do was to use the existing router/modem with one computer (or more) to continue doing payouts. And, further, if they have a number of servers, on a 1 Gbps LAN, to handle the surfing load, it will not make any difference for your surfing pleasure! Why? Because, again, the bottleneck is in the uplink and downlink to the ISP. Unless they improve that, you won't see much in the way of improvement on your end. Installing that switch simply allows the servers on that LOCAL area network to communicate with each other much faster.
So that to me is a red flag.
Another update reads: "We are working with E-Bullion to catch more scammers that might have done some recent harm to our account." So that is an admission that they are being scammed, that their e-Bullion account is being stolen from! Now that to me is yet another red flag.
Ok, am not saying this is a very bad autosurf. It obviously is not and lots of folks are happy with it. And the prospect of getting over 40% profit in just six days is very attractive to a lot of folks. I simply am not comfortable enough with the program to play in this one. But to reassure you, they are in the Top 7 picks by the ASA, so enjoy your surfing. (Two of you wanted to know what are those red flags that I see, so I have obliged. This post is not intended in any way to scare anyone away from 24DP. Am not into fear-mongering.)
- The ProfitRing is closing?
NO TPR IS NOT CLOSING...TPR IS ***NOT*** CLOSING
There are CHANGES, that will be made to TPR to ensure my sanity remains.
I don't do things and leave people feeling stuck so if you recently upgraded and don't like this change. I WILL refund you. Send an email to REFUND@THEPROFITRING.COM with your member id and I'll refund you. This will be the LAST major change in TPR for a long while. And yes it IS major.
DATE OF CHANGE - 6/22/06
I'm not going to beat around the bush with members of TPR. I really was on the edge and about to close. The sad part is it's not because there isn't enough money. It's because of the stress involved in running TPR. I thought about turning it over to someone else...didn't think that was fair as many of you joined because I was running the site. Closing would be unfair because let's be real, it is already hard enough to find a paying program. We've all been scammed to hell and back.
WE have only been launched for 2 weeks and 3 days and now have Total Users 872 | Upgraded Users 467. ***So far we have had $145,000 in upgrades*** Who would have thought? I sure didn't, I know that. I thought I'd be running a nice small surf and WHAM.
So this email will tell it like it is. I know some of you HATE changes, but I have said from day one that this site WILL have changes. We've lowered the ref. commission from 6% to 3% because of e-gold prices. That was a proactive move for the site. Now we're faced with the problem of the cronjob not working properly and needing a programmer.
In english, the cronjob is supposed to expire the upgrades everynight when the server hits midnight. That aspect is NOT working. I've had 2 admins of other sites look at it as well as replaced the file and nothing. Yes, a programmer would be able possibly fix it but the one that was recommended to me is a very busy person and we haven't been able to touch base. So EVERYNIGHT my co-admin or myself have been having to expire upgrades manually. Now, this is not a major task, what is a major task is having to do it at midnight server time which is 2am my time everynight. I have 4 kids, 1 baby a toddler a 5 year old and a 9 year old oh, I forgot to mention my 5th child...my husband..lol.
Anyway, I'm not going to just trust any programmer to be honest. After seeing how vulnerable these scripts are to hackings and holes. Our notorious hacker showed up in the thread on MMG demanding we unsuspend his account(s). This stuff is no joke. We've since patched that vulnerability in the script.
Here's what is happening. Initially I was going to just scrap the script but I know how I like to see a cash balance and know you do as well. So TPR is no longer going to have surfing. It's not an optional surf any longer. It's a no surf. This simply means I run two scripts one to credit your account and one to expire upgrades. But I can run these scripts at a decent hour for myself. I am NOT a night person, it's been killing me to have to stay up to do that. E-gold purchases will STILL be automatic, you can see your cash balance but keep in mind it will be one day behind.
Some of you may not like this change and I'm even MORE sure that my worse critics will do the "I told you she's just too inconsistent." But I'm HUMAN like the rest of you as is my co-admin. I know we cannot please everyone, it's impossible. But one thing as both of us always say is you don't have to worry about us running with your money. WE will pay until we just can't pay anymore.
Now this leads to the payment system. I will start paying upon upgrade expiration AND on Fridays. Example, those of you who had expired upgrades today will get paid AND you can request cashouts again on Friday. This is to keep the original June 30th schedule which will be the last Friday payout. Basically we have 2 more Fridays for payouts.
I want to quote one of the members from MMG because this person hit the nail right on the head. I'm doing payouts after I send this email. Until we get the payment script fixed to email you when you get paid, please just check your e-gold from time to time for payment. Thanks ~EM~
"I am in total support of any changes made for the continued success of TPR. Money spent on constant maintenance of the site and Anti DDOS can be saved. I believe that spending too much money on a site in anticipation of stability actually leaves the Admin low on cash for payouts, thereby reducing it's lifespan. We all saw the big site that spent a lot of money on maintenance, protection and lots & lots of advert hoping for stability closed because they had no money for payout.( Bad management I say)"
js: which site was that?
- SuccessUniversity Announcement!
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June 20th (Tuesday)
- Did you know that Belize is the Capital of Identity Theft? Something to think about before you send in your utility bill showing your current address and two sets of ID (Drivers licence and SSN, for example). Ok? So with PointShareXtreme? I would wait for further news. ACTUALLY I MEANT THE OTHER ONE, THE OLD SPINNER, NOT PSX.
- Actually, the demise of CompactSurfing opens up a whole new avenue! And that is 13DailyPro! (See Reviews Page using button up top, right). One persons is sayiing that many folks lost a lot of money in CompactSurfing, but I would beg to defer a bit? I myself only hand upgrades of less than $1000 in there, consistently and overall have not lost. Mostly due to their low profit margin. So maybe many folks did the same thing, I don’t know. In any case, most of us are happy to be in 13DailyPro and are makinga ll that back up, or have by now. I certainly have! And I feel that the demise of CS is very good for the future of 13DP! There is no other autosurf site out there that comes close to 13DP. 24DP maybe. Just maybe. But am seeing red flags on the latter.
- OurPowerForcedMatrix: Those of you who have signed up will be benefactored this Thursday, apparently. Our mentor told me this yesterday. So don’t worry.
- SuperCashgpt: Stay away from this one! They are promoting like crazy, bonuses up the ....So it is very suspicious. I would not participate in that one. It’s an autosurf. But very suspicious. Their promotions are ... well, too good to be true and simply raises a lot of red flags. Now they could be just desperate to get going, but that’s also a red flag. Sorry.
- An old style DOUBLER! STAY OUT! IT IS LIKELY A DEAD SITE.
dd http://www.fastcashdoubler.com/?micronuts IF YOU DO SIGN UP, SEND ME YOUR USERNAME because it looks like the referral links don’t work. This is strange, site has been down for two hours, now back up. Am only guessing they are trying to fix the referral link problem. Oh well, they’re back up now (6 PM EST). Again, this is a fast-paced game, so don’t play if you can’t afford to lose anything. DO NOT DEPOSIT UNTIL AFTER NOON TOMORROW! ADMIN IS NON-RESPONSIVE AND THIS MAY BE A SCAM RIGHT UP FRONT! I WILL POST MORE NEWS TOMORROW AFTER HIGH NOON! EST. OR TONIGHT IF I GET A RESPONSE. FOR NOW SIGN UP BUT DO NOT SPEND! There is no response from Admin. So... stay out.
Standard FreeWorld Script. Doubling time right now is 24 hours. So it must have just started.
Reverse IP lookup fails! Wow. So I can't tell if there is more than one website on that server.
Well, need I tell you? In doublers you have to get in fast, like RIGHT NOW, and get your money out fast! At least your initial spend. Then cycle a bit and get more out.
It WILL die within a week or two. Maybe will last a month. Depends on how long a cycle time people will bear and/or when they will close and run with what's remaining in there.
So am chancing a small sum right now.
fastcashdoubler.com resolves to 71.18.99.101
Domain Whois Results:
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Domain name: fastcashdoubler.com
Registrant Contact:
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Fax: +1.6613102107
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- One reader was surprised that I posted the above. Here is my response:
“Hi xxxx, the only reason I joined was that I was astounded that someone is trying to bring back the doublers! And if you do get in on the first day, you can expect your money to be doubled, just don't put in TOO much. So it's like a ... fun one to try, if you have the cash of course. I've been doing well with 13dp so I have the cash to try it out.
Now if they were into a cycle time of ten days or more... I'd warn against it. But right now they are at 1 day.... sure it will change rapidly, but for those who can afford to play it may be profitable.”
- SHOP RIGHT Announcement (see Reviews page to sign up - Oil Company Shares!)
Tonight at 8:30 p.m. Central Time.
641-793-7500 Pin 736913#
Doug Bartlett, a very successful marketer, will be sharing information about his guaranteed offer to our SHOP RIGHT Reps. Doug has earned big money by marketing over the Internet.
There will only be ONE CALL so try to get on early and we look forward to seeing you on our call.
Success Always,
Alex Jakubowski
Sincerely,
Affiliates Manager
Shop Right
- To ALL Members,
MLMAutosurf is closing. The reason for this action is lack of support by members and the general public of the current business plan.
While MLMAutosurf is selfustaining the only folks surfing are free members there for no one is making any money.
Also because of the closing of Cashbacksurf.com we feel that we will not be able to regain anyone's support or confidence so the prudent thing is to close the doors on both surfs.
You have two days to cash out. As of thursday morning 06/22/06 mlmautosurf will cease to exist.
Good Luck to All
Bill
- Dang! I have never, ever, seen such software as Evidence Eliminator! It is the most rigorous software that protects you both from hackers, scammers, and.... dare I say it? Your own, um....., gov(((ern(((ment~! The Eye Arghhhhh Essss!
Am not in the United States of America, a Republic, unlike the USA, a Corporation. So am giving you enough clues, eh?
So am going to give you a review of EE. Or Evid****ence Elimin((ator. You see? Run this every few days. Takes a long while, but after that, you are surely protected against all kinds of snoopers.
So the link is on the Reviews page... Just click on Reviews up top right, then do a Ctrl-F on Evidence and... proceed from there!
Am telling you! This is THE BEST piece of Software you could EVER RUN on your PC! You don't even need any kind of Registry Mechanic after this!
It will run for an hour or two or more... but it is well worth it! Many trust this one!
js
- This is a men’s joke:
Why is a Laundromat a really bad place to pick up a woman?
Because a woman who can't even afford a washing machine will probably never be able to support you.
June 19th (Monday)
- Whew! This is a long one! So read all the way to the bottom of today’s post.
- OPFM: Those of you who have signed up with OurPowerForcedMatrix, yes, I have sent your ID to get benefactored and I just finished updating your data as having paid. Now, if you are going to recruit and get some recruits, then go into OPFM, Member’s area, Geneology, copy what’s there and paste into an e-mail to benefactor635 at yahoo.com (of course you need to properly form this address, I do it this way so e-mail gathering robots do not catch it). Your members will then be benefactored in. Instruct your recruits to do the same. Then follow these instructions:
“For all you that sent me new signups -
Go into your back office and change the color of your new members.
Click on their OPFM ID# (which should be blue).
A list comes up with options of colors.
under "Matrix" only -
Click on the Green/blue button -
** This wil change the circle color next to that person.
** Once payment is verified - The home office will change the color to grey.
If you sent me info about your recruits signing up new members - please tell them to do the same thing.
Great work everyone - lets keep it rolling!!!!!”
The reason I have not yet put this program on the Reviews page is that.... I don’t really know if it is going to work out. Most of my readers are passive types, no problem with that, and this one will require some recruiting at some point. And remember, it’s a feeder program into several othes: Empowerism, LHN (Liberty Health Net), and the $24 Plan. Am sure many will not be interested in participating in the programs that this one feeds, unless they are active types. I say this so that you have no illusions.
- dd fantasticpay (don’t sign up until you get to the end of the review)
Fantastic Pay - Passive 10% - 200% per month
Well, Suzanna has done a good job with this review so I hope she does not mind me borrowing it. BUT I NOW SEE THAT IT IS A PONZI! SO YOU CAN SKIP RIGHT TO THE BOTTOM OF SUZANNA’S REVIEW or read it. Up to you.
"Fantastic Pay...sounds like a typical HYIP, doesn't it? But this one is NOT HYIP. It is real estate investments in Canada! I will explain more below, but first the basic info:
There is an $18 fee to join (this also places you into the 2 matrices, but those are NOT the important part of this one unless you WANT to refer people). Then you also need to choose an amount to invest and the term.
You can pay with egold, alertpay and safepay (credit cards).
The returns depend on how long you allow your funds to work before starting monthly payouts (terms are 1 - 6 months), but you can make up to double your investment EVERY MONTH!
Min is $10, Max is $1000
If you put in $100 and choose a one month term, you will receive 10% ($10) a month after one month "forever" or until you ask for your principal back.
If you put in $100 and choose a 6 month term, you will receive 200% ($200) a month after 6 months "forever" or until you ask for your principal back.
* 1 month term we will pay you 10% monthly.
* 2 month term we will pay you 25% monthly.
* 3 month term we will pay you 50% monthly.
* 4 month term we will pay you 75% monthly.
* 5 month term we will pay you 125% monthly.
* 6 month term we will pay you 200% monthly.
These rates will be lowered on June 25th, so to take advantage of the higher rates, you have to join and invest before then.... they have not announced what the new rates will be yet.
Now, here is how they generate the profits (from FAQS):
Example: A home is sold for $100,000 our commission on this 7% ($7000) Home owners will gladly pay a 7%-10% commission because the property is sold at the highest price of the market.)
We have now $7,000 with only a $5,000 original investment ($2,000 gain). We now take $7,000 and re-invest it into another realestate venture. The same process happens and the money has grown again. FantasticPay will be able to do approximately 4-6 transactions in a 1 month period. This means that we are using the same funds 4-6 times each month creating a huge surplus. From this surplus we can afford to pay our members a monthly commission with only a one time investment.
Everyone gets exactly what they require.
1. Our investors get a monthly income from a one-time no-risk investment.
2. People have their home ownership dream fulfilled.
3. Home owners have their property sold at top market rate.
My sponsor Michael has spoken with the ceo on many occasions. All contact info is on the site and this is a registered Canadian company, although I couldn't find a way to confirm this without paying for a company name search service...
Northern Coupon (FantasticPay)
Phone 1-705-866-8455
Email: admin@fantasticpay.com
Northern Coupon is a registered business in the province of Ontario,
Canada since 2004.
(Business registery number 141367888)
[js - I just placed a call to Brian and got an answering machine... left my number so hopefully Brian will call me back and I can do some more DD on this. He's North of me.]
FantasticPay is copyright of:
Brian Lindback
Northern Coupon
448 Dupont St.
Sudbury, Ontario, Canada
P3C-2T6
From my sponsor:
"I have been in since day one and have done the DD and spoken to the CEO several times. I am confident of his genuinely good intentions which is at least more than one can say for some!
I also have a Canadian relative who has told me that if you are buying and selling the properties yourself and dealing with both sides of the transaction then that is a straightforward trade and does not need a realtors license. He says all their paperwork is in order and they are not expecting trouble from regulators.
He sounds like a really straight sort of guy (don't they all I can hear you say!) and is very open and accessible even to long calls at the weekend at home.
They are aware that the business plan is still a bit raw and will need some tweaking. In particular they have reduced the maximum spend from 100,000 to 10,000 and now to $1000 to avoid having more cash in the system than they need for the number of deals going through. There may be times when you cannot invest to regulate the flow.
The Payplan as we see it will not remain. The %ages will drop but the "Pioneer" members will always have the existing Payplan locked to their accounts.
Our funds are held by a lawyer in a trust account so that the lawyer can write to the mortgage lender to confirm that he is holding the deposit on behalf of the buyer. The mortgage company will release the mortgage on that basis and the money remains where it is.
As far as the downline question goes you can see all that in your control panel and in my case it paid me to pay $18.00 for membership fees to lock in my own introductions of around thirty people so far plus another thirty or so indirect referrals. My commission is over $200.00 and I will leave that in for six months. If the business succeeds I get better than $400 a month for as long as it runs for an outlay of $18.00 and I won't complain about that.
Michael"
Your original investment is never risked and will always belong to you. If you wish to withdraw your original investment then the monthly payments will discontinue.
Your term length is flexible (1-6 months) this allows you to decide on when to stop and start receiving monthly payments. Monthly payments will begin when your term length is completed.
*IMPORTANT NOTE*
FantasticPay does not earn its monies from Matrix/MLM programs and payments to our members are based on our earnings through 100% safe real-estate transactions.
However we do allow our members to participate in these 2 matrix programs, it encourages growth of the FantasticPay program. Once you become a paid member you will automatically be entered into our 2
forced matrix programs.
Q. Are multiple memberships allowed?
A. Yes you may purchase more than one membership.
Q. How are payments made to members?
A. Payments to the no-risk program will be sent by check (cheque). Payments for referral program can be sent via Check, SafePay Solutions, AlertPay, e-gold. (Subject to available funds within each payment processor.)
Q. Which currencies are used?
A. All transactions will be made in USD..
Q. Will I get paid every month if I invest in the no-risk program?
A. Monthly payments will be made each and every month as soon as you decide to end your term length. The monthly payments will vary from 10% to 200% depending on your term length. (See Pay Plan) Monthly payments will continue for as long as you keep your original investment with FantasticPay. If you decide to request your original investment amount back then the monthly payments will end.
Q. How do I guarantee my spot within the matrices?
A. Once you become a Paid member your position is locked and all other members will fall below you. If you do not upgrade to a paid member then people below will be moved above you as soon as they become a paid member. It is important to become a paid member as soon as possible..
Q. Can anyone join this program?
A. All are welcome to join. Please keep in mind that when payments are sent from us for the no-risk investment program we may be required to attain certain information from you in order to meet any local or international agreements. We are located in Canada and we must abide by the laws.
Q. What does the membership fee of $18 cover?
A. The membership fee allows you to be an active member with FantasticPay and this will include access to making no-risk investments and placement into 2 of our matrices. In other words, once you are a paid member monies will be earned. The $18 is non-refundable because a portion of it is paid to our members that are in the referral matrix.
Q. Are multiple no-risk investments allowed?
A. Yes ....once your status is a paid member, you can purchase multiple no-risk investments.
Q. How long a period do the monthly payments continue?
A. Payments for the no-risk investment program will only begin at the end of your term and will always continue as long as there are homes to be sold. We feel that there will always be a need for homes.... so your payments will always continue.
A scenario of events: (In this example (story) we will explain the concepts of FantasticPay.)
A person named Mr. Jones was browsing the world-wide-web and came across a FantasticPay website that belonged to member Mrs. Smith (a paid member), so Mr. Jones decided to sign-up with FantasticPay.
Mr. Jones then received his own personal webpage and once he logs-in he may then upgrade to a paid member for a fee of $18.00.
Mr. Jones decides to become a Paid member, this starts a number of events to occur. First his personal sponsor (Mrs. Smith) receives a $5.00 referral bonus then the 5 people that are in Mr. Jones upline will receive $1 each and most important locks him into both of our matrices and grants access to purchase in the no-risk investments.
Since Mr. Jones is a paid member he is now able to participate in our NO-RISK investment program. Mr. Jones decides to invest $100.
Mr. Jones has the option to keep this investment in the program from 1 to 6 month term. He decides to keep it in for the full term of 6 months and this will entitle him to receive a monthly recurring payment from FantasticPay for the amount of $200 each and every month. The monthly payment will start immediately after 6 months has passed. (Mr Jones can stop his term length (1-6 months) at any time and receive the monthly amount that is laid out in our Pay Plan.)
Mr. Jones decided that he required a larger monthly income, he then added another investment of $1000 for a 3 month term. This will give him an additional monthly income of $500 per month. (This monthly payment will begin immediately after the 3 month term is complete.)
Remember all of Mr. Jones’s original investments ($100 + $1000) are keep in a non-risk environment and will be returned if requested.
Since Mrs. Smith is a paid member and referred Mr. Jones to the FantasticPay program she will also receive a 1.5 % percent commission on Mr. Jones's monthly earnings and so will each person that is in his upline that are paid members. (Mr. Jones will get a $700 monthly income, this means that each paid member in his upline will also get 1.5% ($10.50) each month. Imagine this multipled by each person in your downline!)
Now moving onto the next steps of the concept:
FantasticPay will take the original investment amount from Mr. Jones ($1100) and pool that with funds from other members. We then proceed to give qualified people the down payment required to purchase a home. (The down payment does not have to be repaid.) Here is an example of events that occur during this part of the process: (In Canada, qualified people can purchase a home (mortgage) with only 5% down. Our realestate transactions occur only in Canada for the time being.)
Please keep in mind that all funds are held in trust with the lawyer that is handling the realestate transactions and funds are never at risk to be lost.
FantasticPay unites people that wish to sell their homes with people that qualify for our free down payment program. The home owner agrees to pay us a commission for getting their property sold. From this commission we pay our FantasticPay members a monthly commission.
Here is a typical example:
A home is sold for $100,000 our commission on this 7% ($7000) Home owners will gladly pay a 7%-10% commission because the property is sold at the highest price of the market.) We have now $7,000 with only a $5,000 original investment ($2,000 gain). We now take $7,000 and re-invest it into another realestate venture. The same process happens and the money has grown again. FantasticPay will be able to do approximately 4-6 transactions in a 1 month period. This means that we are using the same funds 4-6 times each month creating a huge surplus. From this surplus we can afford to pay our members a monthly commission with only a one time investment.
Everyone gets exactly what they require.
1. Our investors get a monthly income from a one-time no-risk investment.
2. People have their home ownership dream fulfilled.
3. Home owners have their property sold at top market rate.
I hope this story helps you to understand the beauty of this business!
They are advertising this as NO RISK, no one will lose money and I'd sure love to believe that, but how many times have we heard the same over the years? LOL
Please only spend what you can afford to lose, just in case.....
Thank you,
js (again, Suzanna? Thank you for that great review! but... my RealEstate friend has a different opinion, see the end of this post))
http://www.fantasticpay.com/index.php?id=micronuts
http://fantasticpay.com/forum/
Whois search result:
Domain Name.......... fantasticpay.com
Creation Date........ 2006-02-28
Registration Date.... 2006-02-28
Expiry Date.......... 2007-02-28
Organisation Name.... Brian Lindback
Organisation Address. 448 Dupont St.
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Sudbury
Organisation Address. P3C2T6
Organisation Address. on
Organisation Address. CANADA
Admin Name........... Brian Lindback
Admin Address........ 448 Dupont St.
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ Sudbury
Admin Address........ P3C2T6
Admin Address........ on
Admin Address........ CANADA
Admin Email.......... pnsenterprise@yahoo.com
Admin Phone.......... +1.7055649090
Admin Fax............
Tech Name............ YahooDomains TechContact
Tech Address......... 701 First Ave.
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Sunnyvale
Tech Address......... 94089
Tech Address......... CA
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email........... domain.tech@YAHOO-INC.COM
Tech Phone........... +1.6198813096
"
OK, do not get too excited yet! Looks like more DD is necessary. I have a Realtor friend (thanks Nevin!) who took a look at this and here is his response (I also sent it in to the admin to see what he says):
Hey JS, just to let you know this right here is fishy and they are lying, flat out...It may not be TOO significant, but it is a flat out lie nonetheless...
A home is sold for $100,000 our commission on this 7% ($7000) Home owners will gladly pay a 7%-10% commission because the property is sold at the highest price of the market.) We have now $7,000 with only a $5,000 original investment ($2,000 gain). We now take $7,000 and re-invest it into another realestate venture. The same process happens and the money has grown again. FantasticPay will be able to do approximately 4-6 transactions in a 1 month period. This means that we are using the same funds 4-6 times each month creating a huge surplus. From this surplus we can afford to pay our members a monthly commission with only a one time investment.
The only way that you can receive a comission off the sale of real estate is if you are a LICENSED REALTOR... They are not talking about what your relative below is talking about. What your relative below is talking about is called a "double escrow", this is when you buy a property from someone and resale it to someone else at the same closing. You don't receive a commission off of this, it's basically an arbitrage, buying low and selling high while not having to actually "own"the property. So right there is VERY contradicting information, either they are lying about how they are doing business, they aren't doing it yet so they don't know what they are talking about, or someone is licensed and they are lying because they don't want people to be able to look them up and find out who they are. Because licensee information is PUBLIC information.
I also have a Canadian relative who has told me that if you are buying and selling the properties yourself and dealing with both sides of the transaction then that is a straightforward trade and does not need a realtors license. He says all their paperwork is in order and they are not expecting trouble from regulators.”
- so let’s see what happens! It’s $18 to sign up, so don’t do it yet. Once I have a satisfactory answer to the above I’ll let you know.
http://www.fantasticpay.com/index.php?id=micronuts I WOULD NOT JOIN IF I WERE YOU. I WILL KISS MY $18 GOODBYE. This one is a ponzi and does no such “investing”. If they are doing what they say they are, then it is clearly illegal in both the U.S. and Canada.
- It’s a wonder that such large outfits like CompactSurfing never bothered to hedge their bets with respect to gold bullion going down. Obviously their claims of having a financial background are bogus.
The solution to all these problems is to use e-currency, and not gold bullion backed currency. For example, e-bullion offers both e-currency (not subject to the price of gold) and gold bullion currency, so surf programs should just implement acceptance of e-bullion e-currency. That’s it. As well, the VM card is likely not subject to gold price fluctuation.
Now, I’ve stated something different last night and now removed it. Why? I honestly did not notice my e-gold balance fluctuate and maybe that’s because I don’t have an appreciable amount in there at any one time.
- It’s a good thing I never sent out an alert on that new opp that uses gewts.com as the pay processor. It’s called diggos.com. The Admin had to close that programme right after it opened due to a car accident! He’s refunding all those who had deposited. Hopefully he will recover quickly and re-start the programme. I guess it was not meant to be! I would take that accident as a clear sign! I would, but did he? Good luck Peter.
- In the face of the bad news from CompactSurfing, here is some good news from the #1 autosurf programme on the Internet today: 13DailyPro (Click on the Reviews button, top right, then Ctrl-F on 13daily)
Update June 2006
Dear Members
We would like to take this opportunity to welcome all new 13dailyPro members.
A BIG WELCOME TO YOU ALL!
We felt it was time to send out an update on how things are going and also a small cry from our support team regarding support emails…
Firstly we would like to tell you all that 13dailyPro is moving along nicely and we are very happy with the developments of the program.
You will experience, step by step, the added features of the program and we sincerely hope that you will enjoy them immensely.
The latest implementation is our new advertising products.
You will find the details page by following the link saying Advertising on 13dailyPro directly underneath the log in fields on the homepage.
We have PTC and Rotation Banners available for purchase at very competitive prices, all listed on the advertising page. Do check it out.
Our FAQ's page has recently been updated and most questions we receive via the contact link on the homepage are already answered in the FAQ’s.
If you do not understand the FAQs section please take a trip to the MMG forum, we have a lot of experienced members there who are very helpful……Thank you to you all for your support there!
Please use the support ticket for account problems only and emergencies. Answering your questions take a lot of time and it delays the whole process of replying to members who really need the help. Not that all your tickets are not important to us, but you can help us so we can answer everyone a lot faster by finding the answers to your questions in the FAQs or the Forums.
IF you are new to the surfing world please be advised that we have a basic tutorial you can request by submitting a support email to support@13dailypro.net
We will be adding to this tutorial as we go so that our members can benefit from all the features of our AS program.
FAQ'S:
http://www.13dailypro.net/faq.php?show=terms
MMG FORUM:
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/index.php?showtopic=53524&st=3960&gopid=2331640&#entry2331640
Sincerely,
13dailyPro Team
- re DYNAMIC-PROFITS: (I cannot verify that the below is authentic)
“Here is an email address someone posted, then a post supposedly a conversation with admin.
crizuonline@yahoo.com.
Hi Everyone
OK, I guess it is time to put this to bed. I have just had a long conversation with Criz and have been asked to post the conversation here for you all to read.
Criz will not be continuing the program and has done the very best she could for everyone. I am very sad because if things had been different then this could have gone on for a long time. Some people were just jealous of Criz's success I guess. Although I have always said that an Admin of a program is ultimately responsible for his or her actions, if things conspire against you then I can understand just how difficult it is for any Admin to be able to come through this unscathed. I too received my refund a few moments ago and Criz asked me to say this and I am. I have to go out for a couple of hours, please if you have questions, don't PM Criz or me, she cannot read them and I won't be here until later and I really cannot tell you any more than what is here in this conversation anyways. You can email Criz at the Yahoo address provided in the conversation below. And for those of you who have already PM'd me, I will answer those when I get back.
I am so sorry this has happened to everyone and Criz also and seeing as any Admin doesn't have to refund anything, I guess those of us who do get anything at all back should count ourselves lucky. Mazzie
PS, I am only the messenger, please don't shoot me!
crizuonline: well so much about trying to run honest programs on MMG
Mazzie: hey
Mazzie: what is going on
crizuonline: yeah, i've been overwhelmed of bad people
crizuonline: and they succeeded bringing me down
Mazzie: so what does that mean exactly?
Mazzie: are you gone or what?
crizuonline: well, under these circumstances I can no longer run my program
Mazzie: why not?
Mazzie: exactly WHAT has happened that you cannot run your program any more?
crizuonline: let's recapitulate
Mazzie: you better
Mazzie: because I haven't been online since we last spoke on Friday morning
Mazzie: and I don’t know what is going on
crizuonline: but don't interrupt me pls
Mazzie: ok
crizuonline: 1. I lost a day of investments because of e-gold blocked
crizuonline: 2. I lost prolly half of investors from TG because of the superholidays guy who was there all the time bashing the thread
crizuonline: 3. I have been called a "liar" I have been marked with "intention of scamming" by several members from MMG
crizuonline: 4. I have been banned from MMG, because of some replies
crizuonline: 5. after I have been banned, bashers have come in the thread and kept trolling at their own will
crizuonline: all under the watch of the mod who banned me
crizuonline: 6. my site has been marked as "scam" on several big monitors because of false complaints
crizuonline: 7. all my big investors and referrers have recieved spam mails from someone who falsly "reported me as a scammer, telling that i ran prevoius scams in the past and there are solid proofs"
crizuonline: sceptical members believe this
crizuonline: 8. my site has been banned because my hosting was flooded with false complaints of "spamming" tho I never send a spam.
crizuonline: my hoster friend was and still is a good friend
crizuonline: but he was only a reseller, the complaints have passed directly to the chief hoster
crizuonline: 9. my site is offline for more then 3days
Mazzie: let me know when you are done and I can talk OK
crizuonline: i am pretty much done, there are more points
crizuonline: but these are the primary
Mazzie: ok so now what is the state of play because earlier today your site was showing a 404 error, now it is showing and index of pages, which indicates that it is either being uploaded to another sever or?
Mazzie: you still there?
crizuonline: yah
crizuonline: making refunds
Mazzie: So that is the end then for sure?
crizuonline: there is no point getting the site up now, is it?
Mazzie: Well why not, a lot of people would rather still earn and a lot of people still trust you
crizuonline: a lot of people would get the cash out and never reinvesting
Mazzie: do you have enough money to refund everyone?
crizuonline: no i don't
crizuonline: oh
crizuonline: forgot to say
crizuonline: lost 10k in CS
Mazzie: CS why
Mazzie: what's happened to them?
crizuonline: because they scamed dear
Mazzie: did they
Mazzie: OMG, I haven't been here I didn’t know that
crizuonline: well
crizuonline: you were offline for a long time
crizuonline: i don't blame ya
crizuonline: how much you should have been paid ?
crizuonline: from me
Mazzie: I am not online much at the weekends
Mazzie: $400 TODAY
crizuonline: well you invested 400$
crizuonline: amd cashed out 345.35 $
crizuonline: since it started
Mazzie: is there something that you would like me to post on MMG for you?
crizuonline: i would like you to post
crizuonline: that i only had good intentions, is the envy of bad people who forced me to do this
crizuonline: damn them
crizuonline: oh, and you have been refunded
Mazzie: yes I see it thanks
crizuonline: i'm sure some ass will post
crizuonline: "of course you got refunded"
crizuonline: but just ignore them
Mazzie: ok some are saying that you said you were going to do selective refunds, what exactly does that mean? People are really angry about that
crizuonline: well
crizuonline: for ex
crizuonline: i won't refund killian
crizuonline: he posted bad since my site is offline
crizuonline: and now he spams my mails
Mazzie: can u read MMG? I know you cannot log in, but you can still read can't you?
crizuonline: of course
Mazzie: good
Mazzie: now you don’t have enough money to refund everyone you said, so what is going to happen there?
crizuonline: i really wish
crizuonline: i could pay everyone
crizuonline: but i have to admit
crizuonline: i can't
crizuonline: i was planning to invest a part in autosurfs
crizuonline: since they are more reliable
crizuonline: as you know
crizuonline: you are an experienced autosurfer
crizuonline: but now
crizuonline: even the one AS that everyone thought
crizuonline: will last
crizuonline: announced today
crizuonline: that is closing
Mazzie: you mean CS?
crizuonline: ye
crizuonline:
Mazzie: I am gobsmacked about this
Mazzie: and pissed off too
crizuonline: i start to think
crizuonline: that the making money online dream
crizuonline: is ending
crizuonline: and there's almost morning
crizuonline: i really wanted to make a good here
crizuonline: but i have been put to corner by the people i trusted
Mazzie: OK, what I might do is post this conversation, is this OK?
crizuonline: ok
Mazzie: I really am ver, very sorry that this has happened Criz and I do believe that you tried your best here
crizuonline: i stayed awake
crizuonline: day and night
crizuonline: my members who have been with me from the start know this
crizuonline: i was active on more than 30 forums
Mazzie: yes I know that for sure, we have had many late night early morning conversations on this thing
crizuonline: maybe
crizuonline: there will come a day
crizuonline: when all will be back like when was 12DP
Mazzie: that would be nice, but I am not so sure about that
crizuonline: lol look at this: MoneyMakerGroup Forum You have a new personal message ( MoneyMakerGroup Forum )
crizuonline: w00t
crizuonline: i should go read it
crizuonline: uhm... i forgot... i'm suspended
crizuonline: some people
crizuonline: are not
crizuonline: straight in the head
Mazzie: don't worry I will post in a short while
Mazzie: why were you suspended anyways?
crizuonline: dunno
crizuonline: maybe because christine always sent programs in scam section
crizuonline: when dimpelss
crizuonline: "busted" them
crizuonline: i know
crizuonline: that
crizuonline: because
crizuonline: i've been
crizuonline: in their team
crizuonline: too
Mazzie: hmmm they should have given you some explanation
crizuonline: she said
crizuonline: because
crizuonline: i continued
crizuonline: the arguing
Mazzie: I will clear up all this mess for you on MMG after we have spoken
crizuonline: thanks
crizuonline: but
crizuonline: is still sad
Mazzie: it is very sad and I am pissed that you are not going to carry on
Mazzie: Criz
Mazzie: what shall I say about the refunds?
crizuonline: Half of the refunds have been made, the people who did not recieved the refunds would be paid within 30 days. Please send an e-mail to crizuonline@yahoo.com if you haven't recieved a refund. In the e-mail please include your username and EG acc. # used on Dynamic-Profits.com
Mazzie: I thought you said you didn’t have enough to refund everyone?
crizuonline: well i will try investing a part in AutoSurfs
crizuonline: with God help maybe I will succeed
crizuonline: no problem
crizuonline: i'm not a scammer
Mazzie: ok Criz I have to go, I will post and then I have to go out for a couple of hours and then when i come back I will go back to your thread and check it OK?
crizuonline: ok mazzie
crizuonline: i really appreciate all
crizuonline: there are few like you
Mazzie: You are welcome and again I really am sorry that this has not worked out for you.
Mazzie: bye for now
crizuonline: bye for now Mazzie”
But I find it QUITE a coincidence that her site goes down when MANY folks were due to “cycle” after their 14 days, including mine! I really don’t know. It may just be a big plot by two Admin, you know? Am just suggesting it. Again, limiting an e-gold account still allows Admin to w/d all the funds! So am not sure about this talk of losing a day’s deposits!
- Looks like MLMAutosurf is folding. Upgrades have been suspended and members being instructed to cash out.
- dd theprofitring.com: an AutoSurf that’s becoming quite popular.
Run by two well-liked members of MMG: elightenedmind and LondonHoney. Well, I don't know them personally, but my sponsor knows them personally and vouches for them. My sponsor is right now playing only in 13DailyPro and this one.
Much like 13 Daily Pro except that it's 11% ROI per day for 13 days, rather than 13% at 1 days. No big deal. Pays out every Friday and you get your payment on Monday. The surfing is smooth, just like at 13DP.
Now, some further DD:
Wow! Hosted by RackForce! That's a serious server outfit, and very costly. Nice to see that. But... There are 16 total sites on that server with one other autsurf on there. That can become troublesome if this site starts to get some real popularity! But... it's RackForce and they have a good reputation. So addional resources can be added quite easily. We'll have to see.
Their Domain Name servers are registered by an Irish Company (and are located in Kewlowna BC, RackForce) by someone that lives in Florida. And the Server itself is in Kelowna BC, Canada.
RED FLAG: The Registrant mailing address is FALSE! No such Way in Orlando, FL (nor W Way, or Westway). Fake phone number as well. No this concerns me a bit. But... I guess many Admins do this for privacy reasons. I will inquire.
I did not recognize the other sites as scam sites. Some could be, who knows? I can list them if you wish.
I joined and here is my link: http://www.theprofitring.com/?ref=805 Surf's up!
theprofitring.com resolves to 209.97.222.114
Domain Whois Results:
Registration Service Provided By: PTR HOSTING
Contact: +310.82540
http://ptrhosting.com/domains.php
Domain names only $7.75/year by paypal, egold and moneybookers.
Domain Name: THEPROFITRING.COM
Registrant:
Theprofitring
tonywellsmmg (tonywellsmmg@yahoo.com)
1222 West Way
Orlando
Florida,32896
US
Tel. +834.111111111111
June 18th (Sunday)
- It’s a hot day here. Not a dry heat. A wet one.
- Dynamic-Profits: Folks, am seeing some red flags here. If they do come back, it would be best to get your money out as you are able. Don’t panic, but keep a close eye on the admin (him or her) and watch the thread on this one at MMG (Money Makers Group). I hesitate to say all this, but... plenty of others are already screaming. So I don’t think my saying anything like this will “kill” the programme. Just be careful. No large spends!
- I may have to remove my review of GOD as I’ve just found out that it is a Private Club. So definitely I will not list it on the Reviews page, perhaps hint at it.
- Am researching this site right now: http://supercashgpt.com/?ref=570 NO GO. Too many red flags for me.
- Ok, this is a red flag for me with CompactSurfing! For the past two days the surfing has been erratic! Much wait time before a page loads and so on. Perhaps they are under a DDoS attack, I don’t know. But it is taking many minutes to just load your session! On to 13dailyPro! (See the reviews page via the button up top right and Ctrl-F on 13DailyPro).
- Bad news from CompactSurfing!
“Dear Compact Surfing Members,
I hope you will read this update closely, and consider
all that I say here carefully, with the understanding
that the Compact Network will be implementing further
changes in the coming weeks, but we are here to stay
for the long term as I have promised from the
beginning.
As of today, Friday, June 16, 2006, Compact Surfing
upgrades will be disabled. Allow me to clarify our
reasons for doing this, and our plans for the coming
weeks ahead:
1. The price of gold per ounce, as all of you know,
has dropped significantly in the past several weeks.
Because of this, the Egold funds in reserves that I
had to maintain for the operation of CS diminished in
value tremendously on a daily/weekly basis. There has
been a 15 to 20% drop in the value of gold in the past
several weeks, from above $700 an ounce in May to
around $570 as I write this. What this means is
that
most upgrade values that were sent to CS and held
online in order to provide the old trademark “fast
payouts” dropped in $$$ value while waiting to be paid
out. This has been occurring for weeks now. We
persisted, believing there would be a turn around with
the gold markets, that things would average out, but
to date, this has not happened.
We’ve reevaluated the situation, and have decided now
to stop taking upgrades until such time as the gold
markets stabilize, we hope by mid-summer. We feel
this is best for both the company and our members
financially. Members have faced the same situation CS
has when their payments arrive to their accounts and
drop in value within hours…what took several days to
build in profits has sometimes been diminished within
hours, sitting in members Egold accounts. In
accordance with this decision, the ability to upgrade
to CS accounts will be disabled today.
For those
who do not understand why drastic drops in
Egold might affect the reserves of a program designed
like CS, here’s why. The 3 cashout requests per month
combined with the processing of requests every day of
the week, and 48 hour “fast payment” meant we had to
keep a majority of Network funds in reserve in Egold
rather than offline. 48 hours was not long enough to
move funds through exchangers online for payments or
offline for protection of capital, especially on
weekends when banks are closed. This is why, in our
last newsletter, we established the 7-business day
timeframe as being more realistic and manageable for
the future of CS, however, since that last update, we
have considered the situation further.
2. On June 9th, we processed nearly $500,000 USD in
cashout requests. I continued to use the remaining
funds left to pay as many requests as I could, and you can view a screenshot of all
payments sent here:
http://compactsurfing.com/first1.PNG
http://compactsurfing.com/second2.PNG
http://compactsurfing.com/third3.PNG
3660 payments were sent the last 2 days and each single sent was paid.
Moving Forward: We are going to do refunds for
members with pending requests, put the program on hold
and relaunch in the summer, when hopefully the gold
markets have stabilized and by which time I will have had
time to implement Compactpay with features available and
debit cards. All funds in my possession
less operation costs will be used for refunds. In
the coming weeks, the support staff will assist me in
this work. Members in profit will not receive
refunds. Those members not in profit will be returned
a percentage of their initial upgrade purchase
dependant upon the total available for distribution.
Earnings and referral commissions will be
deducted
from your pendings in our calculations. Please be
advised that I am doing this despite the fact that our
terms have always stipulated that upgrade purchases
are non-refundable.
3. All Compactpay members with funds in CP, please rest
assured that your funds are secure. I will announce
next week the procedure for how returns of
whatever you funded into your Compactpay accounts will
be executed. After the funds have been removed from
the system, during the next few weeks, the database
for Compact Pay will be inaccessible to members as my
programmers and I work to implement features which I
have not had the chance to dedicate time to. Please
be patient and I will update further regarding this in
the coming weeks. For those members who have made
recent Bank Wire Fundings, I cannot address those
until next week when the bank is open so please be
patient with this as well.
With that said, the
following actions will be taken in the
coming weeks. The Compact Network will be relaunched at the
end of August/early September and I have decided for now
that the following three sites will be the focus of my
time and resources: Compact Surfing, Compact Lottery,
and Compact Pay
A. Compact Surfing
1. Expect a new layout and design to the site. The site
will offer 14% daily for 9 days on your upgrade
purchases tentatively. Upgrade units will be $10 USD
each and the maximum member balance with active
upgrades will be $10,000 USD. Payout Timeframe:
Upgrades will become pending in your Cashout History
automatically upon expiration. They will be processed
within 7 business days following date of expiration. No
more having to request cashout. This setup is
perfectly clear on when members will be paid. In
addition, I will know exactly what is needed ready in
my online payment processor accounts each week
to
process payouts. As such, I can store the majority of
funds offline accordingly so that we are no longer at
the mercy of gold price fluctuations.
2. Compact forum will still be in place; possibly
changed to vbulletin format as I have received
feedback requesting this from members.
3. More details to be announced when available.
B. Compact Lottery
1. Expect a new layout and design to the site
2. No more purchasing tickets from cash balance; you
will be able to purchase directly from Egold and
tentatively Compactpay as well. Winners will be paid
within 5 business days following announcement of
weekly lucky numbers.
3. Cash prizes will be greater in amount, though the
number of winners will be less than the past track record
to allow for ease of management in distributing payment of
prizes. The amounts for Weekly prizes will be announced on
the site as well. Distribution of rewards still to
be determined
by the administrator.
C. Compact Pay
1. I will work in the coming weeks to develop
relationships with exchangers to bring on board to
offer funding/withdrawal options for Compact Pay that they
will handle individually and efficiently.
3. I welcome any member suggestions with regards to
implementing debit cards. Compact Debit Cards are
still planned, but due to the current situation, and
recent comments made by members regarding their wishes
for certain cards, I have cancelled our previous order
for cards. For those of you who prefer Cardoneplus
over Virtual Money, and vice versa, please contact
Nvus with your reasoning and he will forward me
details and I will make a final decision in the coming
weeks: cn_nvus@yahoo.com
4. The Shopping
Cart Interface will be made available
and upgrades/cashouts through CS via CompactPay will be
available as well to coincide with relaunch of CS.
Expect further announcements from me in the coming
days. The Compact Network is here to stay and we are
not going anywhere, I assure you all. After 3 months
of hard work and dedication I will not give up and I
ask that you do not give up on me now either. We have
faced obstacles beyond our control in the past several
weeks, but the above plan of action will allow us to
return, stronger than ever. Thank you all for your
continued support.
Sincerely Yours,
Luuk Hendriks
Altus Financial Services Inc.”
- May I suggest to you that Dynamic-Profits=Roboclix? Well, I just did! We’ve all been had!
- You know? In all my joking re Our
June 17th (Saturday)
- On the 13dailytPro page? Whenever you get the 2 bonus credits or .005$ credit? Sure, click on the link, but then wait about 8 seconds before you click on the Resume Surfing link, else you will get at “too quick surfing” message. Oh and PS, my upgrade expired today and got paid within hours! Many K$! So it is working! I love this one! And I just collected just over 4K. Yeah! I love this one! (to sign up go to the Reviews button up top, extreme right, then Ctrl-F on 13DailyPro and you will find it.) js
- I just did a search on one of my readers, to see how many messages I have received from him? Guess what? 666! har!
But here is a post from him that is .... well, you judge (or not).
Am not sure if this one is written by Bob's brother or if Bob's brother picked it up somehwere, but here it is:
For the young at heart who have been here a while:
"Hey Granpa," one of my grandkids asked the other day, "What was your
favorite fast food when you were growing up?"
"We didn't have fast food when I was growing up," I informed him. "All
the food was slow."
"C'mon, seriously. Where did you eat?"
"It was a place called 'at home,'" I explained. "My mother cooked every
day and when my dad got home from work, we sat down together at the
dining room table, and if I didn't like what she put on my plate I was
allowed to sit there until I did like it."
By this time, the kid was laughing so hard I was afraid he was going to
suffer serious internal damage, so I didn't tell him the part about how
I had to have permission to leave the table. But here are some other
things I would have told him about my childhood if I figured his system
could have handled it:
Some parents NEVER owned their own house, wore Levi's, set foot on a
golf course, traveled out of the country or had a credit card. In their
later years they had something called a revolving charge card. The card
was good only at Sears Roebuck. Or maybe it was Sears AND Roebuck.
Either way, there is no Roebuck anymore. Maybe he died.
My parents never drove me to soccer practice. This was mostly because
we never had heard of soccer. I had a bicycle that weighed probably 50
pounds, and only had one speed, (slow). We didn't have a television in
our house until I was 11, but my grandparents had one before that. It
was, of course, black and white, but they bought a piece of colored
plastic to cover the screen. The top third was blue, like the sky, and
the bottom third was green, like grass. The middle third was red. It
was perfect for programs that had scenes of fire trucks riding across
someone's lawn on a sunny day. Some people had a lens taped to the
front of the TV to make the picture look larger.
I was 13 before I tasted my first pizza, it was called "pizza pie."
When I bit into it, I burned the roof of my mouth and the cheese slid
off, swung down, plastered itself against my chin and burned that, too.
It's still the best pizza I ever had.
We didn't have a car until I was 15. Before that, the only car in our
family was my grandfather's Ford. He called it a "machine."
I never had a telephone in my room. The only phone in the house was in
the living room and it was on a party line. Before you could dial, you
had to listen and make sure some people you didn't know weren't already
using the line.
Pizzas were not delivered to our home. But milk was.
All newspapers were delivered by boys and all boys delivered
newspapers. I delivered a newspaper, six days a week. It cost 7 cents a
paper, of which I got to keep 2 cents. I had to get up at 4 AM every
morning. On Saturday, I had to collect the 42 cents from my customers.
My favorite customers were the ones who gave me 50 cents and told me to
keep the change. My least favorite customers were the ones who seemed
to never be home on collection day.
Movie stars kissed with their mouths shut. At least, they did in the
movies. Touching someone else's tongue with yours was called French
kissing and they didn't do that in movies. I don't know what they did
in French movies. French movies were dirty and we weren't allowed to
see them.
If you grew up in a generation before there was fast food, you may want
to share some of these memories with your children or grandchildren.
Just don't blame me if they bust a gut laughing.
Growing up isn't what it used to be, is it?
MEMORIES from a friend:
My Dad is cleaning out my grandmother's house (she died in December)
and he brought me an old Royal Crown Cola bottle. In the bottle top was
a stopper with a bunch of holes in it. I knew immediately what it was,
but my daughter had no idea. She thought they had tried to make it a
salt shaker or something. I knew it as the bottle that sat on the end
of the ironing board to "sprinkle" clothes with because we didn't have
steam irons. Man, I am old.
How many do you remember?
Head lights dimmer switches on the floor.
Ignition switches on the dashboard.
Heaters mounted on the inside of the fire wall.
Real ice boxes.
Pant leg clips for bicycles without chain guards.
Soldering irons you heat on a gas burner.
Using hand signals for cars without turn signals.
Older Than Dirt Quiz: Count all the ones that you remember not the ones
you were told about-Ratings at the bottom.
1. Blackjack chewing gum
2. Wax Coke-shaped bottles with colored sugar water
3. Candy cigarettes
4. Soda pop machines that dispensed glass bottles
5. Coffee shops or diners with tableside juke boxes
6. Home milk delivery in glass bottles with cardboard stoppers
7. Party lines
8. Newsreels before the movie
9. P.F. Flyers
10. Butch wax
11. Telephone numbers with a word prefix (OLive-6933)
12. Peashooters
13. Howdy Doody
14. 45 RPM records
15. S&H Green Stamps
16 Hi-fi's
17 Metal ice trays with lever
18. Mimeograph paper
19 Blue flashbulb
20. Packards
21. Roller skate keys
22. Cork popguns
23. Drive-ins
24. Studebakers
25. Washing machines with wringers; and washtubs for rinsing
If you remembered 0-5 = You're still young
If you remembered 6-10 = You are getting older
If you remembered 11-15 = Don't tell your age,
If you remembered 16-25 = You're older than dirt!
I might be older than dirt but those memories are the best part of my
life.
Don't forget to pass this along!!
Especially to all your really OLD friends....
=====
"Senility Prayer"..God grant me...
The senility to forget the people I never liked
The good fortune to run into the ones that I do
And the eyesight to tell the difference."
- You know, I have hesitated to tell you how well compounding works. Why? Because almost 100% of the programmes/HYIPS that offer that collapse within 45 days, or even less! So you never get your compounding expectations to work out! So I have not been mentioning that aspect. Except for now. You see, GOD seems to be one of those opps that offers you a realistic, daily, profit of under 1% (or over) and can back it up via their dealings in Auctions! So this guarantees longevity! In this case you can actually plunk down $500 USD and have it mature to near ten grand in a year! Why? Because they are MOST LIKELY to survive a year! Because they are not a ponzi and do depend on outside dealings. So read the below post and decide to join. --- js
- If you’re in PointShareGold/Xtreme and have not followed the news in their forum then here is a summary:
“June 15, 2006
UBP e-Wallet Debit Card
You may now download your debit card application forms by clicking here.
( http://www.pointsharextreme.com/index.php?pr=Debit_Cards )
Once you go there, you will be presented with a login. That's your PSG/PSX login. If you don't recall it, click on the Forgot Password link and then on the next page put in your e-mail address you used with them (go back to your e-mail folder, locate one e-mail from them and se who it was sent to; use that e-mail address).
Once you have signed in, you will be surprised to see the home page again. So click on the Debit Card link in the news section again and you will be taken to the correct page. If you signed in at the site first, then you will be taken right to the debit card page.
Am not sure what to put into the BUSINESS NAME and NATURE OF BUSINESS (and ADDRESS) fields, so I’ve sent a note to the folks who are processing these.
June 4th Update:
Dear PSX Members,
In order for us to safely send out your commissions and monthly premiums without the need for us to send out funds to our e-currency account or payment processors via Bank Wire, we have coordinated with one of the Major Banks here in the Philippines to provide the UnionBank E-Wallet Cards.
Since we fund these accounts locally, exchange rates will also apply.
You can also purchase using these cards in any establishment worldwide with the Visa and Visa Electron logo and withdraw money in any ATM with the Megalink and Bancnet logo in the Philippines or the Plus logo available worldwide.
The Application Forms, Requirements and Signature Cards will soon be available in a secured area on the PSX site.
Hold on to your dreams and let’s work together to make things happen!
Henry
and here is the post before that one, June 1st
Dear PSX Members,
First of all, I apologize for not being able to post during the past few days due to some technical issues on our side. I know that you are frustrated and all but the thing is I am never away without any good reason. But I sure am alive and kicking and as healthy as a horse. I hope you can forgive me for my lack of communication which I am very much aware is essential especially in this crisis that we are facing.
I call it a crisis as we are troubled by several program destabilizers which I admit I was not ready for and never thought they would ever be part of our program. We are capable of paying you out but we cannot do so at the moment until all issues from our e-Currency accounts are straightened out. However, we are doing all we can to resolve this the soonest time possible.
I have accepted all the help from our invaluable consultants, members and moderators pertaining to the following:
* Reprogramming of the Pointshare Site
* Cash Transfer and Management
In the days to come, the payout will resume... starting with reinstating the manual payout and then other methods to be paid out which we are currently sorting out with our business partners here in the Philippines.
I remain confident that our system will soon be back on track. No matter what these detractors might say, I will still be here for my members and will do everything to keep this program alive for each one of them and everybody's future. “
June 16th (Friday)
- Dynamic-Profits had to go to a new hosting provider. So DNS propagation may take up to 2 to 3 days. So not to panic, just lurk in the MMG forum for this thread.
- Here’s a note from Peter, the Admin of a new opportunity that was supposed to launch last night using GEWTS.COM as their pay processor: (ah never mind). Basically they will launch Sunday night as they were not quite ready and Friday and Saturday nights are not very good nights for any kind of launch.
- If you joined OurPowerForcedMatrix, please sign in and read the whole site! Especially on how the matrix works.
Let me just say that this one is not for the couch potato. Although you CAN be benefactored in, and you will probably make back what you will spend, there is work to be done in this one. You can’t just sit back. So log in and look at the left-hand menu. Read the whole site carefully. All the tools are there to help you.
Ok, here some more clarification for you. Basically this is a downline club with its own matrix ($7 per month fee). When there are enough members in the matrix, the club goes out shopping for a good opportunity to join. The first one is Empowerism.com (I’ve been with them for over 2 years now). First, you will benefit by simply being in the downline club matrix (Miracle matrix, the main OPFM matrix). Secondly if you follow your sponsor into the first opp (Empowerism) you stand to make money in Empowerism with out recruiting because, presumably, the folks under you in the OPFM matrix will follow you in an orderly fashion. They will may their monthly fee there and you will make a percent. Now of course you can choose NOT to go into any of the opps that OPFM goes into, and you should still make some money because of the folks under you in the OPFM matrix. That’s simply it. Of course there are more details, and you should study them at the site. For instance, normally you should be signing up 3 folks under you and paying them in, they will do the same, by replicating what you do. You will still make money doing that. But, on occasion someone comes along that is willing to pay for not only their 3 but even more than that. So this is the situation we have here. Our upline is willing so sponsor 1000 people. He’s now sponsored close to 300. So.... will you be in the next 700? Use my short link to sign up for this.
- More on OurPowerForcedMatrix or OPFM: If you happen to sign someone up and can’t benefactor them then if you wish my upline to benefactor them then send an e-mail to my upline and include the member’s ID and email address they used (which you can pick up from your backoffice at OPFM). As well, if you’re going to advertise your own personal linke and intent to have my upline benefactor the person, then use this link: http://www.ourpowerforcedmatrix.com/enrollmentspecial.php?UID=YOURuserID and replace YOURuserID with, of course, your userid!
- I sent some queries to both the upline of my upline (the fellow who is benefactoring 1000 new members) and my direct upline.
I now share this info with you.
"There is no any disadvantage if you do not benefactor anyone.
My goal is to pay in 1000 new members, it doesn’t matter who brings them in. This is where I stand right now.
I have paid for 218 new members as of this letter.
I can still pay for 788 more, so if you need me to pay for your new members, please recruit.
Please, if you can afford to pay for these people yourself, please continue to do so as there are members that really don’t have the money to pay. As we are a team, lets keep the thinking that way.
When everyone is making money, you can take some of that money and reinvest it back into the program by recruiting more people thats what I am going to do, and that what our goals should be.
If everyone follows this plan, you next paycheck will be surprisingly bigger, then you can sit back and relax (Well a little lol).
As I bring in more new members, they are back-filling your downlines, everyone that receives this, I am working on your downline everyday, but I cant do it alone. That’s why I ask you to first bring in people.
It is very important to remember that everyone that is in your downline that brings in a new member, that new member is also in your downline also. That is how the teamwork comes in.
If you are lucky and get a heavy recruiter, you make out big time.
You do not want to stop recruiting even if you have 2 people under you.
You do not know if those 2 people will bring anyone in, plus, you can fill your downline with new members that take the first open spot under you.
I am a heavy recruiter and I pay a lot for advertising. This helps the whole team and my goal is to make sure that each one of you are earning a nice income. Will it take hard work?
YES it will.
I have brought in 134 new members as of this letter, that means that everyone will be receiving spill-over from me, as well as, spill-over from my up-line. Filling in the first available spots and making the matrix even.
I know that some people are still unsure of this plan and not really understanding the whole picture. Please stay positive and once you understand, you will see that its a good program, with good income goals and we don’t leave anyone behind.
A very large amount of members are here because they don-t have any money, that’s fine with us. As long as you try to recruit, I will help you.
Hopefully by Monday they will have a new feature in the back office where we can transfer new members to other peoples downlines. I will help you out when you need it as long as you are trying. Who knows, maybe you can get lucky and get a heavy recruiter."
That's a good update. Well, am one of those recruiters but not as heavy as this guy. So let's work as a team. I have other instructions in this BLOG for you, so please read them.
- Now please let me be clear to you again about OPFM (above): It’s just a downline club! They have a matrix, you pay $7 a month to stay in there. Why would you stay in there? Because your first month is benefactored, and hopefully by the second month there are enough folks under you so that you are not losing any money with that monthly fee. So why quit? You’ll stay in. Then, they announce a new company for you to get into, some Health Company like Liberty Health Net, and guess what? Based on your commissions, you can get in there without cost... and if the folks under you in OPFM follow you, then you may make some money in that new opp. That’s the lowdown that I have been able to figure out on this one, during a walk. So... there are many like this one. Some call them feeder funds or feed matrices, as they feed into a number of opps. 7Bucks a month is one of those. 911Club is one of those. $1.67 a day is one of those. 5Paychecks is one of those. There are lots. So... bear this in mind. This one may just work out for many of you, or it may not. It’s worth joining for a month though, since you are being benefactored in (free). I have also received an e-mail via my upline from another reader that basically came to the same conclusion, although in much stronger words. And I agree with that reader for the most part.
- I would not trust that ProfitableGold Exchanger that offers +20% to your paypal for your e-gold! You will likely lose your money.
- Here is more on the ‘net Opera on 4-Ecorp: Go get ‘em Phil!
“PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE
ON YOUR TEAM 06/16/2006
4-Ecorp "Proof of SCAM" 5000 Caller Capability
7 PM Eastern or 4 PM Pacific
Conference call lines: 212-990-8000 or 646-519-5860
If you can not get on one try the other...
Your Pin Code is : 7 7 7 7 #
There will be a 5000 line conference call today to put an end to the double talking 4-Ecorp Management Team... On this call there will be undeniable proof of everything that has been said about Enrique, Shane McGuire, Dan Atkinson and Daniel Chattin
From Dan Atkinson Vice President of 4-Ecorp Called Phil Piccolo at His Home and
on Speaker Phone in front of Witnesses said Quote "Phil Piccolo you are A Dead Man"
HUNDREDS of you have e-mailed Phil Piccolo to inquire into a Class Action Law Suit against
Enrique and his so called $150,000,000 a year business, 4-Ecorp and there $100,000 a month
Management Earners... we are seeking legal answers for you from a very prominent Law Firm...
If you wish to be updated on such Legal Information once we find it out e-mail D1280X@msn.com
and put in the subject line CLASS ACTION SUIT...
OH did you hear THE RUMOR that bottles are EXPLODING IN THE HEAT...
That should be fun with JULY and AUGUST coming up...
We have 100's of complaints that 4-Ecorp took 2 check drafts from peoples accounts
They took a $399 check for the product and on their own decided if a person
paid check number 428 for $399 they could just draft 428A for $25 with no permission
Next issue is WHERE IS MY PRODUCT
Paid in APRIL - NO PRODUCTS YET
Paid in 1st week of May - NO PRODUCTS YET
WOW... all this name calling...
All Phil Piccolo did was put together an e-mail that took two days to write...
Went over it... got the time lines... prayed about it... made sure to read it
many times to make sure all was true... Then he pressed send...
Today's Series of Events 6/15/2006
First: Dan Chattin calls and says Phil Piccolo ruined him. Quote
"My partners never knew I was coming out to Florida... I am ruined"
Next: Dan Atkinson Quote "Phil Piccolo how stupid a man are you
- You are a DEAD MAN - Watch Your Back"
Next: On their conference calls they slammed Phil Piccolo and they are sending
out old garbage that one broke musician from Minnesota who has gone Bankrupt
twice and wiped out an 8 million dollar slander Judgement that has said bad things
about every single Million Dollar Earner in Network Marketing History..
This one BROKE MUSICIAN has called Phil Piccolo The one man Internet Crime Machine.
However does not show any evidence of the accusations...
Plus he has a disclaimer on his site that says this is all in Parody...
LOOK Phil is no saint and has made mistakes and this is not one of them...
This is not about Phil Piccolo and his Good or Bad reputation.
This is about 15,000 people buying a product that we have all been deceived about.
We have been deceived about the TESTING, Deceived about Enrique, Deceived about 4-Ecorp
Management and Deceived about The Compensation Plan which got changed after 30,000 people got in to give 4-Ecorp more Breakage...
This is not about competition from another company...
aaTCM has grown way past the success of 4-Ecorp prior to any and all of this happening...
Phil has earned more in the last 5 weeks than 4-Ecorp has paid out to their whole company...
Phil did not do this to sponsor more people...
Next: Daniel Chattin tells his best friend Rick Garland he is going to The FBI because
Phil Piccolo mentioned concrete shoes. And he now fears for his life...
Now let's check out this scene in Dan Chattin's life...
Phil Piccolo is driving Dan back to the airport and Rick Garland is on Phil's speaker phone in the car.
Phil tells Rick to congratulate Dan since he has accepted the CEO position and shook hands on it.
At the same time Phil's cell phone rings and it is Richard Skaggs the President of OMSTAR D-1280X
and Phil excitingly tells Richard we have a NEW CEO... With Richard and Rick both on Speaker Phones.
Richard Skaggs says congratulations is it all a done deal... Phil responds yes it is 100%...
Richard says so we have a concrete deal and Phil says yep... concrete deal or concrete shoes...
and EVERYONE LAUGHED... Dan, Phil, Richard and Rick all joking and laughing...
Now we here Dan Chattin is filing an FBI Report because he is scared of what Phil Piccolo
will do now that he has not accepted the CEO Position... Quote to Rick. I am in fear for my life...
don't you remember what Phil said about CONCRETE SHOES...
I need to file a complaint with my brother-in-law who is an FBI Agent..
Maybe Dan Chattin should remind the FBI of who he is in reference to the situation...
with some Indian Tribe being defrauded of Millions...
Rumor has it that he was or still is part of some kind of FBI investigation...
OK... HERE IS THE BOTTOM LINE:
Enrique if you have Test from EPA APPROVED LABS
which is right on the front of your new site for 4-Ecorp
JUST show us the proof on your Website
If you went to Harvard as was claimed and got a DEGREE
Put it on the Website... Did you now say at the meeting it
was in Economics or was it in HOME ECONOMICS..
Like a Cooking class...
Dan Atkinson just produce copies of your last 6 months checks
and put them on the website. Your CORPORATE BROCURE says
you have earned $100,000 a month...Stop talking about Phil Piccolo and
JUST SHOW US THE MONEY...
Dan is The Caddilac Escalade you are driving belong to Daniel Chattin
JUST ANSER THE QUESTION Mr Corporate Brocure $100,000 a month EARNER for 20 YEARS...
Daniel Chattin just show how much of the ALMOST 6 MILLION dollars
went to COMMISSIONS... you all say more than 50%... Just PROVE IT
Daniel, Shane and Dan did you take $100,000 each out when
HALF THE PEOPLE did not even get their PRODUCTS YET...
YES OR NO...
PLEASE EVERYONE THIS IS NOT ABOUT Phil PICCOLO
He does not have 15,000 or so orders of YOUR MONEY...
He has not done the conference calls and listed
10 GREAT REASONS to Join 4-E of which 9 cannot be proven
He did not just take in SIX MILLION DOLLARS OF YOUR MONEY
and in MANY CASES NOT DELIVER THE PRODUCT...
We are sure that Florida, Texas, California and Michigan State Attorneys Office
Would love to hear about another Gas Additive Company that is taking money
and not delivering the products for most as of yet...
Please if you have any information about any of these men now or in past
dealings please send it to d1280x@msn.com
put in the subject line INFORMATION
If your check has been cashed and it has been weeks with no product
please send it to d1280x@msn.com
put in the subject line NO PRODUCT
If you were one of the people who got two checks out of your account like
my 77 year old mom without her permission
please send it to d1280x@msn.com
put in the subject line CHECK FRAUD
- Oh my God! I just received $4K from 13DailyPro! (sign up via Reviews button up top, Ctrl-F on 13DailyPro). I am stunned and hilarious and happy! As soon as my upgrade expired, they paid me! Within hours! Ok, that sounds like it may not be good for the programme, but... they have sworn to prove that this is NOT the case! Well, all I can do right now is to applause them!
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