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September 24th (Sunday)
- Not too many updates today. Mostly answering e-mails. Have a nice day!
- I have just added XLO Autosurf! This one is truly great and will survive for at least another six months or more! Read my brief review by clicking on the Reviews button up top, then Ctrl-F on XLO.
September 23rd (Saturday)
- DesertSkyMarketing has launched and is open for signups. See my brief Review below. This one has all the markings of long term survival due to realistic returns and requirements. It’s the new breed of Surfs.
Just look at the Security that Dust (the Admin) has implemented:
“Don't believe all the admins that say pats-pro and/or their egold got hacked. Their problems were :
1) They didn't secure their server (most had dedicated servers, but not MANAGED, dedicated servers). They left basic things like the admin directory unsecure, the backup directory unsecure, didn't secure the php service, left the ftp service on, didn't use ip access control to the admin section, didn't block known hacker ip addresses, etc, etc.
2) iI they got their egold hacked it was their own stupidity. They must not have moved upgrades from the "upgrade" egold account to one that wasn't tied to their script. They must not of used the ip security egold offers. They must have used the same password for their email and egold.
3) They had keyloggers/trojan horses/spyware on the computers they used to access the egold accounts and admin area of the script. So, they didn't have the proper security on their own computer.
4) They didn't use RoboForm (or some other type of password manager), instead they copied and pasted or manually typed in their username/passwords.
Anyone who uses pats-pro and claims they have been hacked has never sent pats-pro any log files so pats-pro could find the "security hole" and patch it. Wonder why that is? Pats-Pro has asked for them. Wonder why XLO's egold has never been hacked? Wonder why CommandSurf and CommandBravo has never been hacked (their forum was hacked, but not the script)? CommandCorps egold has never been hacked....
For me, my program is on one dedicated, fully managed server (managed by a guy I refer to as a security freak), the forum is on another server (so if they hack it they will not get to the program script/info), and the support system is on another server. All three servers are with different hosts. I also have an automated script that backs up the entire program (files, database, etc.) every single hour to a different server.
Not to forget firewalls, IP Table security, and DDOS protection.
I'm serious about security.” -- Dust.
- I will be adding XLO Surf to my list of surfs. It has never been hacked. Here is my link (Review forthcoming). They are using the old, and reliable, lj script. The same one that 12DailyPro used.
- PATs Pro script: The new version that Israel of Commandsurf is installing, and Dust of DesertSky is already running is not supposed to go down if the license server over at the owners of PATs Pro goes down. But... the problem is not yet fully fixed, so Dust and Israel are getting some cash together to purchase the source code (not encrypted) and will thence be free of the yolk at RollSoft.
- Those of you in PointShareGold/Xtreme please follow the below instructions! It’s good news!
“Instructions for Updating your Personal Information in your PSX Member
Account
Greetings Members of PointShare Xtreme,
It is in the great anticipation of the great launch of the new PointShare
Xtreme® that we are pleased to announce that all current PSX Members may now
log in to the PSX Home Site to Edit their accounts in order update their
Personal Information with the instructions as follow:
1. Go to https://pointsharextreme.com/login.php (you may click on the link
or copy/paste the URL into your browser. Make sure you have the 's' in
http:// (i.e. https://) in your browser address bar.)
2. Login to your account by going to the Members' Login Area
(https://pointsharextreme.com/login.php)
Enter in your username and password to log in to the site.
Username: Your PSX registered username
Password: Same as your PSX registered username*
NOTE: YOUR USER NAME IS ALSO YOUR PASSWORD to log in, but you will change it
at the bottom of "Edit Account"
Security Code: Enter in the Turing Number as it appears in the box to the
right of the 'Security Code'
field.
* Your username is also your password.
Click on the 'Log In' button to login in to your account.
3. Login and click "I AGREE" on the Terms and Conditions page. *
4. As soon as you log in, you will see your Account Summary. It will say
''Account Details for {your name or company name}:''
Please note:
Your record will show that you have no purchase history.
Please do not worry about not being able to see your 'Available Balance' or
plan purchase histories since that information has not been uploaded to the
site yet.
Your Account Balance will show '$0.00'.
5. Click on "Edit Account" tab which is in the menu at the left side of your
screen.
6. Make sure all your information is accurate.
7. Enter in the e-currency account(s) numbers for the plans you purchased.
If you used more than one e-currency enter the other account numbers as
well.
Example:
- If you used more than one e-currency account to purchase plans, you would
enter all Payment Processor account numbers you used.
- If you used only one e-currency account to purchase plans, you only need
to enter in that account number.
8. Type in the Username of your sponsor. This is the username of the person
who introduced you to PSX. Make sure to enter in your sponsor's username if
you have one.
9. Change your password by filling the first 2 password boxes/fields with
the password you want associated with your PSX account.
Make sure your new password is not your username and that it is one that is
very difficult to guess. An alphabet-numeric password is recommended.
10. Fill out the bottom password box/field with your current password. In
this case it is your username and it is cAsE sEnSitIvE and must be exactly
as you entered it above in number 2.
11. Click on 'Submit' and if you get a message advising you that your
account has been successfully updated, it means there were no errors. If you
encounter an error message, please re-enter your passwords and click on
'Submit'.
12. Click on 'Logout' and visit PSX Community frequently for any further
instructions which we will make available as instructed by Henry.
13. Enjoy your new PSX site.
14. Payout commencement is upon us as we wait for Henry's Notice of Payouts.
* It is highly advisable all members thoroughly read the PSX Terms and
Conditions, Disclosure, Anti-Spam Agreement and Disclaimer of PSX. If you
have read, acknowledge, accept and agree to the terms of the PSX agreement,
click on the "I AGREE" button to proceed.”
- I have not said much about SuccessUniversity recently so here’s an update. Below is an e-mail I just received about my downline. Also note that am not required to sponsor one person in each of my two teams (legs) because am already qualified for life! To see my review of SuccessUniversity click on the Reviews button up top, right, then Ctrl-F on SuccessU.
“Hi John... GREAT NEWS!
The following people have been placed below
you in your Success University downline within
the last 24 hours:
PIERRE LE BOULANGER - Maine-et-Loire, FR
CHRISTOPHE FERRAND - Maine-et-Loire, FR
Azmee Rahman - VA, US
patrick freeman - TX, US
Bruce Smith - KY, US
Orville Parker - MO, US
SASA SUBOTIC - Maine-et-Loire, FR
Jennifer Alloy - OH, US
jewell stessman - WI, US
Gavin Meadows - Licolnshire, GB
Robert Hafenbrack - IL, US
Each and every month that they pay their
monthly tuition, it will count towards your residual
commissions. You also get credit for the entire
organization that they build - even if it grows to a
team of hundreds of people!
Make sure you've qualified to earn commissions -
all you have to do to get started qualifying is
enroll 1 active student on each of your two teams!
Hundreds of people are already earning checks
every month with Success University - make sure
you're not missing the boat!
To your success,
Success University Support Team
”
- Check this out! A free e-book from Eric of Eric’s Tips on how to make good money on eBay. I trust this guy. His Tips are quite good.
- To restate, as many new folks don’t read all of my BLOG pages. Stay away from Swiss Cash.
- CommandSurf is back up with the new script. Surf now. Some small glitches, but they are being fixed.
- So my new list of surfs? Here it is:
- 12by12daily.net (Use the Reviews button up top, then Ctrl-F on 12by12)
- GlobalAdsPro.com (same as above but Ctrl-F on GlobalAds)
- CommandSurf.com (same idea!)
- DesertSkymarketing.net. I will most likely add this one to the Reviews page tomorrow! If not tonight!
So we have here two of the “old” surfs that pay a high return each day, and two of the “new” surfs, that take us back to the days of StudioPay and others, that lasted months on end, based on realistic payouts! And the two I mention here are not ponzis! As they can maintain their payouts via outside sources. Of course, that has yet to be confirmed, for real, in at least one of them! But... the payout is realistic! So I myself trust both of them (the last two) to not be ponzis! And that’s cause for celebration and... sign up!
- I would like to say that this is not easy to do, running a BLOG site. And this is also on behalf of all Bloggers out there. We get hundreds of e-mails, many offers to review various opps, there are thousands upon thousands of opps coming out. We are all inundated with offers to join various opps, and in our case, folks wanting us to review those opps. It’s a real mine field! Who are you going to trust? If you are all alone, then it is not very likely that you will find the right opp that will make it for you. Usually you are swamped with offers. And you don’t know which one to join, which one to work.
It may even take you a few years to get enough intelligence, enough experience with all the opps out there, to allow you to make your own informed decisions. You may not even make it. Most do not. So ... what am I saying? Am saying you ought to find someone who is making it, someone you can trust, and go with what they are doing or recommending. What else can you do? Especially if you have limited income to spend.
I understand. I was in your shoes a few years ago. I failed at many of the opps out there, despite, even, the help of upline! Who had really no time for me, except for a few documents they put together and which advice I was supposed to follow.
Not everyone is also going to make it by following the advice of a certain guru or other (marketer). Each person is very peculiar. So I would suggest you find what you’re good at, especially your own personal interests, then set up a website about that and become an expert on that over time. And then you can take it from there. That’s what I did. And I have advised a few folks to do the same. Some are very successful with that right now. So go for it! Do it part time, full time, but make sure you have plenty of enthusiasm for it! If you don’t? You won’t succeed.
- The ASA is no longer the ASA as one of the members has just left, Todd. And he’s setting up his own site and ensures us that it will be honest and true. As he says that the old ASA should be trusted and such, (my own wording), he implies, by his announcement, that it can be done better! Meaning? You can guess! So am waiting for the new site to come up: SurfSiteMonitor.com.
- surf.anygold.com is gone!
- My account at GoldnDaily.com has not yet been fixed! It’s a foregone conclusion now that the Admin is a scammer!
- Wow! More revelations about the GoldCoders script! From NUK himself:
“*NUK, how did the GoldCoder script get "decoded? WTF does that mean?" Good 'ol GoldCoders uses an encryption(scrambling files into gibberish) method called Zend. Zend WAS pretty popular and a pretty effective way to protect your PHP files in your script. Well, some hackers find a way to break the Zend encoding and actually decode the gibberish back into easy-to-understand and easy-to-modify PHP. Oops! So much for Zend encryption. After the hackers broke Zend, pirated versions of the GC HYIP script started appearing all over the place. Hmmm....was that so the hacker could make a quick $20 or was there other reasons?
YES THERE WERE OTHER REASONS! The GC script was a buggy script with lots of security holes. It also required registering itself with the GC server periodically. That's so people couldn't pirate the script, right? Uhhh, maybe. There were rumored backdoors that once the GC script got decoded, became CONFIRMED backdoors. The GC programming team of Russians seemingly put some backdoors into their scripts and then claimed total innocence every time a HYIP admin got looted int he middle of the night. Hmm. If all that wasn't bad enough, last Spring another method was discovered to get into the GC script the good old fashioned way: total hack! Several SQL-injection methods allowed hackers to gain access to the GC database and change egold acct numbers and other fun stuff. More Admins(and their members) got looted. It took OVER A YEAR for GC to address all the various SQL hacks. I'm not convinced at this point that they truly have been addressed, either. GC sux! Sellign a script with known security flaws that allow Admins to be cleaned-out is WRONG. Not being able to fix the problems in a year shows a *who gives a damn?* attitude that is remarkable in its suckitude. Oh yeah, SQL injection hacks are almost always due to one thing only: lousy scripts! It's not the hosting company or the server or whatever, it's the sh*** script that is vulnerable.
So, given all that, is is morally wrong to buy a pirated version of the GC script. I SAY NO IT ISN'T. It's morally wrong for GC to sell a script that they knew damn well could have devasting effects on the Admins(and consequently the Admins' members) when used properly. Another side-effect of this sorry script is it gave Admins the excuse of "we got hacked" that they could use at any time, regardless of whether they in fact were hacked or not. UGH.
If you have a moral/ethical problem with buying a pirated script, send GC their full price for a copy and then throw it in the trash. Use the pirated script instead. Now, you ain't home free yet, though.
Pirated scripts have their own built-in problems like more backdoors and hack opportunities. You are buying something illegal, right? You're buying it from a pirate(aaaargh matey!), right? If this seems scary, YOU ARE RIGHT, PLAYA! You have a very good chance of being ripped-off just as bad with the pirated script as the legit GC script. "So NUK, how the hell can I run my ponzi and avoid getting ripped-off? I intend to do the ripping-off myself! OK, here goes......
1) If you are going to buy and use a pirated GC script, I suggest you buy a DECODED-ONLY script. Some versions of GC Bootleg 1.0 (that's a name I made up, stop googling it already!) are supposedly "fixed" and then re-encoded with Zend. The problem with this is that you can see all the files that have been Zend'd so you have no idea what the hell is there. Could be the same exact GC script as sold by GC. Could have some flaws fixed and others not fixed. Could have its own new backdoors added in. So, forget the decoded and re-encoded idea.
2) Buy a decoded script and take a look at the php files. Don't have any clue what to look for? Congrats, you're definite HYIP Admin material Before you go onto Scriptlance or hire some schmuck to check your script out (and you can trust them exactly how?), take a look around the net for all the security issues known to the GC script. Here's a good starting point:
http://www.zydusnet.com/forum/
You can also find some of the same at TalkGold where you'll see MMG member dxdesign and myself raising hell about all the GC problems OVER A YEAR AGO, d'oh!
Explore and see if your bootleg script still has some of the same holes in it. If so, I suggest you go buy another script if you don't know how to make minor edits to PHP files. Why pay someone to fix it? Just keep throwing money for pirated scripts and sooner or later you'll get a winner that HAS been compeltely patched.
Look at some of the forums and see who is selling and see if others are liking what they are getting. You may have to be SNEAKY because most forums get PO'd about the selling of pirated software. You may have to PM and use subtlety. Don't register somehwere and then post 5mins later: "HEY, WHERE CAN I GET A PIRATED GC SCRIPT???!!" Be this--->  , NOT this---> 
Wow....moral quandaries solved once again! There is just one thing left to mention:
Why the hell do you want to run a HYIP anyway?! 
Dammit, MMG needs an upgrade that allows you to post more emoticons!
Nobody U Know
” Thanks NUK! js
- Well, I guess I was right about Judy and Maria of EZ Wealth by Design. I had concluded, some time into the programme that it will not work.... by one of my readers kept insisting it would work... but it did not! And now she’s gone (Judy) and please DO NOT TRUST anyone from there. Simply do not join! Well, doublemansquared, what do you think? It was Easy Wealth for the Admins, by Design! Right? Right on! And you were fooled! It’s ok, no hard feelings. Just get back here and let’s continue to play!
- Not good news from CEP!
“Greetings!
We had multiple e-gold fundings today and yesterday that were incorrect. Please follow each instruction exactly. If you're confused about the process, read the FAQ and follow the exact steps there. If you enter anything incorrectly, we have to delete the transaction and make you enter it again (many transactions have been entered in the last two days that I just had to delete. As soon as you re-enter the data correctly, we can confirm them for you). If the data is not exact, it allows loopholes into security. Therefore, we are doing all of this to protect you and us. For those of you who have been waiting for your e-gold fundings, check to see whether you were funded. If you were not, you need to re-enter your data and make sure everything is correct. Until you do, we cannot credit your account. Thank you!
Trevor
”
September 22nd (Friday)
- Good morning! A more chipper today and you should see some action in this BLOG.
- OK FOLKS! I’ve added Empowerism to the Reviews page... so there are no more of my own links in the BLOG. If you have a 9PlanetReview site of your own, log in, go to Programs and put in your own Empowerism ID in there!
- Empowerism, under Derek Bohlken is going great! I have close to 40 members now. Derek is also setting up an AD Coop (this Monday I believe). Shares are $20 and you can buy more than one share. Your own link will be entered into a rotator so that you get direct signups. You will also notice that in the Empowerism “back office” you will be able to move direct signups anywhere (under your own direct signups only!) you wish within 72 hours of sign up. I will be using this feature as well, to place others where I want them. Here’s the info on the ad coop:
“I am sending you this email now because I am organizing my ad co-op and I wanted you to at least know about it in case you want to get some passive enrollments as well.
I've enrolled at least 1,000 people from newspaper advertising over the last two years.
The co-op is a way to increase our advertising buying power by pooling ad dollars together and the people do go directly to your site to enroll because we set up a new domain with a rotating url.
It does get direct enrollments.
Each share is $20 and represents one spot on the rotating url that we will then advertise. You can buy one or more shares. The more money we pool together, the more buying power we have so there is no reason to limit it.
The best way to participate is by paypal to drbohlken AT aol.com (rember to fix this address) and including your empowerism ID in the message to make it easy for me to set up and verify the rotator.
The other option is e-gold to e-gold number 3454990 but I prefer paypal because I buy the ads with my paypal master card.
Derek Bohlken” (Use the Reviews button up top, Ctrl-F on Empowerism.)
- OPFM or OurPowerForcedMatrix: Remember this one? Well some action is starting to finally happen with the loading of the matrix. All of you need to sign in at ourpowerforcedmatrix.com, click on Member Login up top, then on the Enter Member Center button. Then scroll down to where it says “Special OPFM Matrix/Speed Matrix Preview”. Then use the large link just below that and follow the instructions. The script may give you some trouble, so keep trying it. Once you have your numbers you can plug those into the Matrix Calculator (there is a link there).
- Yesterday I received an e-mail from the VM Card folks, but could not believe it. I looked at the URL and it seemed to be correct. So I looked on the back of my VM Card and the URL started www, not http nor https. The phishing e-mail started with https and had, what looked like a capital letter I (not L), but it was in fact a lower case L. In general, pay processors don’t send such e-mails. So just hit the Del key on that one.
- GOD, not God, are still offering a 25% instant bonus! Check it out by clicking on the Reviews button up top, right, then Ctrl-F on GOD, and mark the checkbox for Match Case. You will then get an e-mail, do a confirm, and the data will be sent to you. Then visit the site, look around.
- OK, I joined this one a week or so back but have done nothing with it. Have a look and if you like, join. And if you find it interesting, send me a note, kick me in the butt, you know.
- Well listen, I have to publish this as am supporting SuccessUniversity! Not that I agree with it. I’m past all that MLM stuff, but many are not. Many still have the huff and go! So I have to serve both audiences and I hope you can appreciate that! You can be successful in these! I was for about 8 years with a Company called Enrich International! Of course after that they were sold to the guys who own Gerber Baby foods and GNC! And my pay went down to one third of what it was.... so here I am, in a different industry! Reporting on the scams, and the good ones out there, which are few and far between! And this is what I like, myself. Am occasionally into opps like SuccessU and Empowerism, but only if I have an upline that is pretty well guaranteed to get me overspill! And hence you! So can you blame me for that? You see, most of these don’t work out for the ordinary person, and I have pointed this out several times now! But if you get in with an upline that will pretty well guarantee overspill? Why not join? What’s there to lose? Within a month or two your monthly subscription is paid for! So why not? That’s why I do get into some of these, despite my warning you against them! You see? I hope so!
“Success University
Weekend Call Announcement!
Hi John,
SATURDAY
11:00 AM (UK Time-GMT+1)
UK NOW HAS THEIR OWN
“LIVE OPPORTUNITY” CALLS
EVERY WEEK
WEDNESDAY AND SATURDAY
Wednesday
8:30PM (UK Time: GMT+1)
Saturday
11:00AM (UK Time: GMT+1)
The calls are an important part of developing your Success University business. They are here to help you do your recruiting. Get your prospects onto the call and let the system do the rest. This has been a tried and tested way to recruit with the US based calls and now you have them here at a more suitable time of day.
Please bear in mind that the timings of these calls are not only to benefit just those of us in the UK but in Europe, Scandinavia, even Africa and the Middle East, so any prospects you get from these areas, get them on to the calls! Please mark your calendars and go to their web site for more information at www.successuniversity.uk.com
*****************************************************
SATURDAY
11:00 AM (Central time)
Fast-Start Training Call
New to Network Marketing?
Do you desire to build your business to new levels?
Who better to explain these things to you, than our very own industry leaders, top producers and superstar trainers - Ned and Cheryl Rae! They are here to clear the air for you. They will be sharing techniques they have used to build an organization of over 11,000 people in just a few short months!
This week Cheryl Rae will continue her series with:
"Make a Commitment and You'll Move Mountains,"
based on the book Attitude is Everything by Jeff Keller.
Ned will follow with his inspiring
"First Things First: Fast Start Training."
*****************************************************
SUNDAY
4:00 PM (Central time)
New to the Public!
QUICK START GUIDE TO SUCCESS TRAINING CALL!
Join Founding Members and Directors, Chris & Julie Chojnowski as they feature the new Quick Start Guide to Success ebook found in your back office library.
Chris & Julie have over a decade of experience in the fields of Network Marketing and Personal Development and have a rapidly expanding team worldwide. Not only will you learn some of the best ways of building your Success University business, but you'll also learn how to create optimal ongoing growth by applying all important Universal Laws and Success Principles.
Print off your Guide Here!
Join them for this exciting call each week!
You don't want to miss these calls!
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- CommandSurf going down for Maintenance while they upgrade to the new script:
“Attention All Enlistees
At Saturday September 23 at 12:00 AM
We will be taking the site offline to upgrade to our new script.
We are hoping that we will be back online shortly, sometime Saturday.
For information about the progress of the updates you can go to
http://www.commandforum.com and http://www.commandblogs.com
The General
CommandCorps.com Admin
”
- The following is supported by CommandSurf Admin: I will do a more full DD on the morrow, but right now I wished to publish this for you. No one can join until tomorrow. So please wait until I post my link. So please come back tomorrow. There is no hurry. This is NOT a cycler or HYIP!
“dd http://www.desertskymarketing.net/?ref=1144
General Program Information
My name is Dustin Fennell and I'm the CEO of Desert Sky Network, LLC.
I always hate it when a new program comes online and I feel like I don't have any time to do a any due diligence before I join. Please click on over to the Desert Sky Marketing website at http://www.desertskymarketing.net and click on the "About Us" link at the top of the page. On the About Us page you will find our office hours, business address, and phone number. I have already posted due diligence information for you on this page as well; you will find our corporate filings, our federal tax id number, dns report, whois info, hosting info, and some info on me, the admin, of where I post on other forums.
Desert Sky Marketing is a program dedicated to bringing together real advertisers and consumers. We are ZERO % ponzi and have a real business plan. You will NOT get rich quick by joining this program. You will, however, earn 25% profit per month from your advertising purchases. Realistic profits for sustainability and longevity.
We are not your normal run of the mill surf program; real people, real advertisers, real profits.
Program Overview
- 2.5% for 60 Days
- Advertising Packs $10 each (maximum of 1000 advertising packs)
- Payday is every Wednesday (request cashout by Friday's, get paid on Wednesday)
- Automatic Upgrade Extension if You Can't/Don't Surf
- Raffles
- Targeted Marketing
- Tiered Referral Commissions (1% - 3.5%)
- Egold and AlertPay
Upgrade and Cashout Fees*
$10 - $1000 = $1
$1001 - $2000 = $2
$2001 - $3000 = $3
$3001 - $4000 = $4
$4001 - $5000 = $5
$5001 - $10,000 = $10
*AlertPay users will pay a 4% processor fee in addition to the above administrative fees for upgrades and cashouts.
Daily percentages and fees have been established using egold as the base processor. This is due to the fact that DesertSky Marketing actually conducts outside business ventures (NO other surf programs) and these outside ventures use egold. Therefore, funds must be transferred from AlertPay to Egold and back. DesertSky Marketing is simply passing these processor fees on to the members who wish to use AlertPay instead of egold.
If other payment processors are implemented in the future, any associated payment processor fees will be passed on to the members who choose to use that processor.
Referral Commissions:
Referral commissions are based upon your current active advertising pack level.
$10 - $1000 earn 1.0% Referral Commissions
$1001 - $2000 earn 1.5% Referral Commissions
$2001 - $3000 earn 2.0% Referral Commissions
$3001 - $4000 earn 2.5% Referral Commissions
$4001 - $5000 earn 3.0% Referral Commissions
$5001 - $10,000 earn 3.5% Referral Commissions
For example, if your current advertising pack level is $1400, you will earn 1.5% referral commissions whenever your downline purchases an advertising pack.
How to contact us:
DeskertSkyMarketing.net offers you three different options.
DesertSky Network forum – http://www.desertskyforum.net
Check our About Us page for company information such as phone number, address, and business hours.
DesertSky Network support ticket system – http://desertskynetwork.helpserve.com
Surfing Requirements:
You must surf 50 pages per day in order to participate in the viewing commission portion of the program. You can earn 2.5% commissions of your ad-purchase for each day you complete the required minimum surfing. You may surf up to a maximum of 100 sites per day. The first 20 sites are premium sites reserved for paid advertisers. These premium sites are manual surf. The remaining 30 required sites are for our members advertising. These sites are auto-surf with random intervals where you must click a button in order to continue surfing. You may surf up to a maximum of 100 pages per day.
Admin/Company Verification:
In addition to the due diligence information already posted on my website, I have initiated a request for the following to perform due diligence on me.
* Vincent Teoh from AutoSurf-Guide
* MrsVee
* Leo from DrunkonLife
* ASA
* E-BusinessOnline.com
* MaximumMonitor (already Identity Verified)
* TradeMark-Surf
* The Surfer's Union
I am also open for anyone else who would like additional information in order to conduct what they feel to be a thorough due diligence.
I've posted about my program early enough so you won't have to feel rushed and will have time to complete your own thorough due diligence.
Thank you,
Dustin Fennell
DesertSkyMarketing Administrator”
- Thanks to Bob, a friend of mine who is ON THE ROAD! and about to face a Tornado or two:
“dd effectivefinancial.com
Yes, very interesting! Read all the pages in fact!
Of course they don't offer the real solution. And that has to do with the fact that the NAME on all those credit cards and bills is in ALL CAPS, a person, not you, but chattel of the Government. And you, as your name spelled properly, have assumed responsibility in a silent contract unbeknownst to you, with them! So prepare to be even more shocked. But who will help you with this? If in the USA you will be hounded by the IRS, and you will need to understand the LAW very well on this.
But if this will help you then so be it.
js
First link you should look at and read the rest: http://www.effectivefinancial.com/offers/finances/help1.asp and am sure you will find the home link.”
- I have added more info about GOD! Here it is, from my upline! Not my words! But it seems to be legit:
“Global Online Depository
(G.O.D.)
Launched October 3rd, 2005 - Paying
https://www.globalonlinedepository.com/?ref=micronuts
Time-Sensitive: 25% Instant Added Bonus Ends Very Soon!
( see below for details)
I wanted to make sure you got in this program now because it is as real as they come, read below to see why this should be part of your portfolio.
One of my colleagues got paid over $30,000 a couple days ago, $20,000 via check and another $10,000 via e-bullion.
See Below.
http://proofis.here.ws/
Global Online Depository is a unique bricks and mortar company... that's right, a real business; not an offshore HYIP (you can visit the warehouse, call and talk to the directors).
They sell products through many avenues, including E-bay Auctions and Yahoo Auctions...
They also hold Yard sales, set up booths at Flea markets and supply other flea market people with wholesale inventories as these are people that travel the Flea Market circuit.
They do fund raisers as well by holding live auctions in various cities, normally with a church or civic organization.
They purchase products from China , India , and Mexico as well.
They purchase Insurance claim Inventories and factory liquidation inventories, as well as shelf pulls from big chain stores.
If Global can buy something for $1.00 and sell it for $5.00, with low overhead, the company earns a very good profit.
If that same borrowed dollar is rolled over 5 or 6 times a month during the year, it will have earned the company a gross cash flow of over $325.00 for the year and paid interest to the lender of $13.42 for use of the $1.
So they buy low in huge bulk quantities and sell high.
There's been talk of them possibly going public at some point in time.
For people looking to generate a passive income, Global Online Depository offers their own loan program. Members don't buy or sell any assets. It's actually much simpler.
Members agree to lend money to Global for a term of one year.
During the term of the loan, Global uses the money to finance a cyclical purchase and resale of product inventories at a profit.
In exchange for the use of the money, Global agrees to pay members a specific, daily interest rate, and also to return the original loan principal at the end of the one-year term.
They plan to go public within the next 90 days and have already received their stock trading symbol and have made it through their 3rd audit.
As I've been digging for info on this program, I've found a lot of experienced pros are touting Global as their "favorite must fund program".
I joined 6 months ago and have been receiving my daily interests and withdrawals as advertised. I have chosen the 100% compounded option because that is earning us the most profit.
Withdrawals are made within 48 hours but mainly faster. Here is a proof of it when I withdrew some of my referral bonuses:
4/4/2006 18:55 Payment Received 58780887 Gold +0.031538 1678795 18.50 USD 586.60
From: GLOBAL ONLINE DEPOSITORY
Memo: INVENTORY LIQUIDATION WITHDRAW
4/8/2006 00:52 Payment Received 58996919 Gold +0.339789 1678795 200.00 USD 588.60
From: GLOBAL ONLINE DEPOSITORY
Memo: INVENTORY LIQUIDATION WITHDRAW
7/12/2006 05:43 Payment Received 64497667 Gold +0.505421 1678795 324.48 USD 642.00
From: GLOBAL ONLINE DEPOSITORY
Memo: INVENTORY LIQUIDATION WITHDRAW
7/15/2006 17:04 Payment Received 64677489 Gold +0.349325 1678795 233.00 USD 667.00
From: GLOBAL ONLINE DEPOSITORY
Memo: INVENTORY LIQUIDATION WITHDRAW
Minimum Loan:$10.00 - No Max
Loan Daily Interest Rates - Up to 1% Per Day depending on your loan amount
Loan Period: Each loan lasts 365 Days, then expires and you get your principal back.
For example, on a $1,000 loan they pay 0.75% each and every business day.
A $10,000 loan pays 1% per business day. At this rate, your money doubles about every 3.6 months.
TIP: If you can swing it, funding your account with at least
$501 will get you .75% per day... that's the rate for $500-$5000 before that minimum is raised.
Given the stability and the "not to be sneezed at" returns (from .20% to 1% per day), this is absolutely one of the best programs out there right now.
They accept funds from e-gold, e-bullion, bank wire, personal checks, business checks or money orders, and direct deposit at bank of America and Wells Fargo.
When can I withdraw funds?
Depending on the loan plan you selected, you can usually start withdrawing your interest earnings after 90 calendar days. Principal is held for 365 days. At the end of a loan's one-year term, your original principal is released and you can either withdraw it or keep it working for you by making a new loan to Global.
No referring is requiredin order to earn a great interest rate on your loan! However, if you do refer someone to the program you'll earn a very fair referral bonus.
Referral bonuses (not dependent on the number of referrals):
Level 1: 25.00%
Level 2: 5.00%
Level 3: 3.00%
Level 4: 2.00%
Note: Referrals are NOT required to earn passive income from loans made. Also, mass public advertising is prohibited, however, you can share the program with your personal contacts and private email lists.
The type of loan they offer is called a Secured Profit Interest Program, which means that your loan is secured by tangible product inventories stored in their own warehouses.
This is what distinguishes a Secured Profit Interest Program from all other online investment programs like offshore HYIPS, which are all too often based on dubious "trading" in various financial markets.
You can pull your interest out at anytime after the first 90 days and your you can pull your principal out after the initial 365 day holding period. When you pull out your principal all they do is sell off some inventory and you get your money.
Join Global Online Depository for FREE.
https://www.globalonlinedepository.com/?ref=micronuts
Lots of due diligence has been done on this company and program - What they do, who runs it, and where they are has been checked out - Google search, satellite search, direct phone numbers, etc.
This is a real brick and mortar business as you can see here:
Newsletter #1 - Visit to one of the Global warehouses
http://216.180.237.76/godepdocs/Newsletter_Vol1.pdf
Newsletter #2-Trip to China & Hog Wild Days
http://216.180.237.76/godepdocs/Newsletter_Vol2.pdf
WEEKLY CONFERENCE CALLS - HOSTED BY: RUSS DEVAN & A.J. BURZUK
Russ DeVan and A.J. Burzuk host weekly conference calls to answer questions about Global.
When: Calls are held on Tuesday and Thursday nights at 9pm Eastern time ( 6pm Pacific, 7pm Mountain, 8pm Central).
Where: Dial 620-294-3000. Enter 2603# when prompted by the operator.
Who's running the show?
The owners are a couple of very experienced and respected gentlemen.
Larry "Buck" Hunterhas been in business for a very long time and most recently is a Power Seller on Ebay. Mr Hunter served in the U.S. Navy as Radar Electronic Technician. In his early 20's, he produced, authored and performed three Regional hit music records.
He has extensive experience building network marketing sales forces for a number of companies, which includes, but not limited to: Amway, Life Trends, Melaleuca, Radiant Life and Life Plus. He was a national radio host on the Cable Radio Network and a Television host.
Retired Judge Bryant E. Behrmann, BS, JD. served in the United States Air Force, flying F-4 Phantom jets, after which he returned to Brigham Young University , where he earned a Juris Doctorate.
In his legal career, he served as a Public Defender, County Prosecuting Attorney , and ultimately as a Judge for the Third District for the State of Idaho . He has also conducted a private practice in business law, specializing in corporate and trust law for closely held corporations.
He lives in Henderson , Nevada .
They travel a couple of times a year to go meet the people that are investing with them.
Join Global Online Depository Here for FREE.
https://www.globalonlinedepository.com/?ref=micronuts
If you don't want to miss out the special 25% Bonus added to your investment, than act fast. This offer is valid till end of September.
I wish you very successful investment.”
js
- I can’t believe that Mark Joyner has come back with a New Age message to all of us! I just can’t! But he has! Shit! That is such deception! I know, because I have studied that area far longer than he has! All areas of the ... OK, I will not mention it. But that’s all he’s peddling right now! New Age beliefs! (At least it seems that way to me on the surface whenever I see a post of his or on his behalf.)
Some of which are true, but most of which... he does NOT understand the repercussions of! It seems.
Webstra is in the same boat! Pretty well. Sure, they are doing what I wished to do years ago! And that is to run a Business with Spiritual forces in hand and beliefs in hand. But I never managed, as the the two seemed to be opposed. And they are, for the most part! So these two guys are not seeing that? It’s sad. It really is.
This is, of course, only own opinion!
September 21st (Thursday)
September 20th (Wednesday)
- Avoid the offer from GoldnDaily.com! They are only, now, just collecting your money!
- If you are considering joining me in Empowerism then best you get going! I now have 3 front line, 5 second line, and Derek will start to place others into my organization beginning today! So...... spillover! (Use the Reviews button up top, Ctrl-F on Empowerism.)
For those of you who have joined, log in to Empowerism, and on the left hand menu, under Subscriber Benefits, the first link is Edit Referral IDs. That’s the same as I have at 9PlanetReviews, in your back office. Put in your ID beside each of the programmes that you are in, else leave the IDs that are there. Plus do look at all the resources under Subscriber Benefits! Use them if you can! And don’t forget the Member Training links!
I have also subscribed to Derek’s Ad-Coop by one hundred and twenty bucks so this will help with overspill in my downline from my own efforts.
A major Surf Admin has just joined me in this! So best you join right now! And get the overspill!
- IN THE NEWS: DragonAutoSurf.ca no longer accepts SolidTrustPay! As well, they have dropped VM Card:
“Due to the recent, sudden changes to the SolidTrust.info program we have removed SoildTrustPay from the DAS payment processors.
All those who have deposited through STP are asked to edit your payment information in your member back office to receive payment funds via e-gold.
The option to purchase via VMcard has also been removed, until a suitable alternative can be found load the card.
” I guess that SolidTrustPay and VMCard... are not as they were touted to be!
- AceInvest Announcement: (click on the Reviews button up top, right, then Ctrl-F on Aceinvest for my review and so on):
“Dear AceInvest Member,
Do you want your family, relatives, friends and associates to prosper
as well? Tell them to join the call today, or listen to AceRadio!
There are only 10 days left to join – get them on board!
Attention, there was a typo in the previous invitation mails, here is
the right one: http://services.acespace.biz/onair2.htm
Conference Call Schedule:
=========================
Wednesday September 20 / Thursday September 21
Wednesday 02:00 PM (Los Angeles)
Wednesday 05:00 PM (New York)
Wednesday 22:00 GMT (London)
Thursday 07:00 AM (Sydney)
To enter the conference room: http://www.aceconference.biz/AceSpace.exe
To listen to the AceRadio: http://services.acespace.biz/onair2.htm
Recording and Summary
=====================
Within 24 hours after the Conference Call we will publish a recording
of the Call and a summary in PDF on our website www.aceconference.biz .
You will also find a summary at www.aceinfo.acebiz.biz
It-Pays-2B-Ace!
===============
Pedro Dispenza
Ace Founder
”
One more:
“Tonight I will talk about following topics!
Invest Once and Earn for Live
=============================
On tonight’s Conference Call I will explain how it can be that you’ll
be earning at least $1,000 for per month, for as long as our Ace
programs are online, and why shouldn’t it be forever?! This is exiting
stuff – tonight you’ll hear it from the ‘horses’ mouth!
Small Investors Unite
=====================
Exciting news for the ‘Small’ Investor! Want to ‘play’ with the ‘Big’
Guys – You can, I will tell you my solution tonight on the call!
The October Trading
===================
The daily return will be at least X % per day, maybe higher. Join
the Call tonight; I'll tell you why the daily return can be that high!
Not ready for making an Investment yet?
=======================================
Then I have incredible good news for you! If you are serious about
AceInvest, but cannot pay today ... Listen tonight!
If you have forgotten to join AceInvest, this is your last chance!
Follow this link to sign up: www.aceinvest.biz/micronuts
Do you have questions?
======================
I will not do a Question Round this time; instead send a message with
your question to our Support Desk at: www.acesupport.biz/support
I am ready --- Are you?! You’d better be; it will be a memorable event
tonight --- Talk to you soon!
Conference Call Schedule:
=========================
Wednesday September 20 / Thursday September 21
Wednesday 02:00 PM (Los Angeles)
Wednesday 05:00 PM (New York)
Wednesday 22:00 GMT (London)
Thursday 07:00 AM (Sydney)
To enter the conference room: http://www.aceconference.biz/AceSpace.exe
To listen to the AceRadio: http://services.acespace.biz/onair2.html
Recording and Summary
=====================
Within 24 hours after the Conference Call we will publish a recording of the Call and a summary in PDF on our website www.aceconference.biz .
You will also find a summary at www.aceinfo.acebiz.biz
It-Pays-2B-Ace!
===============
Pedro Dispenza
Ace Founder
”
- I just may add XLO surf site on the morrow, as I have had a good conversation with the Admin. I have also have had good reports about them over the last few months. Not sure why I did not join them! But perhaps it is time.
September 19th (Tuesday)
- Some guy is advertising easyfxgold.com and telling us that if we don’t try this programme then we are losers! Ummm... I don’t think that will win us over to trying it!
- Why has F E M A (Fed...eral E---merg--ency Mgmt Ag----ency) built around one hundred und**erground cities? Am just asking.
- Can someone please guide me to the Director of the Denver International Airport? Apparently they have nine sub-basements under it and they’re running a surf site on each sub-level! I need more information! And the buried runways will soon be uncovered to transport the Admins of the surf sites! And their families! I really need your help!
Attention all Monitors! I really don’t know what’s going on, but I will tell you this: I do support your efforts! There is no need to cause any panic! I understand! Keep up the good work! Oh, and I hope you put some Canadians, like myself, on that list of yours! I love underground cities!
- OK, ok, back to business! Crazy js is back to work. Just ignore the above references! Please!
So, seems that the surf industry is getting bleaker by the minute. But there are two or three mainstays:
1: 12by12Daily.net (use the Reviews button up top, right, then Ctrl-F on 12by12).
2: GlobalAdsPro (same as above, but I think Trish should change to something like 12 days, not 7)
3: CommandSurf.com (as above... this one gives you a nice 2% per day for 75 days, and that is indeed sustainable).
4: 9PlanetSurf.com (perhaps to come soon, 2% per day for 100 days, or something like that... still undecided. But geared for longevity.) Look for it at your favorite 9PR BLOG.
5. XLO Surf may be a contender. Lasted over five months now! Still going!
Look to see new surfs coming out that give from 1% to 2% per day over 75+ days! These will be on the ONLY ones that will survive, except for maybe 12by12daily. That one has a very loyal following and may even exceed the longevity of 12dailyPro (the late).
- Shopright Announcement (use the Reviews button up top, right, then Ctrl-F on Shop Right)... it’s not really about shopping! Trust me!
“The following is a rough draft of our 3rd flash movie that we hope to have ready in about 2 or 3 weeks. thanks, alex jakubowski
WELCOME TO SHOP RIGHT! YOU ARE ABOUT TO BE INTRODUCED TO AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY. Instead of being in businesses that typically have a high Failure Rate, why not participate in a business entirely formulated to produce an extremely high Success Rate for our Representatives. WE’RE TALKING ABOUT YOU BEING SUCCESSFUL AND MAKING SIGNIFICANT MONEY WITH YOUR VERY OWN UNIQUE, AFFORDABLE, STAY AT HOME BUSINESS. Our excellent (3) Flash Movie Marketing System well defines this Exceptional Opportunity, and by simply sharing these three Movies it makes being successful very achievable for all.
Here Are Some Basic Facts. SHOP RIGHT is incorporated in the .. State of Oklahoma. Our company motto is T.E.A.M. which stands for: Together Everyone Achieves More! The SHOP RIGHT Mission Statement is: "We will provide all the marketing necessary & a business structure that contributes to a 95% Success Rate for our Representatives."
LET ME ASK A SIMPLE QUESTION? WHERE ELSE ARE YOU GOING TO FIND A BUSINESS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE MARKETING IS DONE FOR YOU THAT IS PROGRAMED TO PRODUCE BETTER THAN A 50% REFERRAL SALES RATE?
A BUSINESS THAT COSTS LESS THAN $200 & WITH JUST (3) REFERRAL SALES YOU EARN YOUR MONEY BACK AND THEN PUTS YOU (IN PROFIT FOR LIFE) WITH YOUR SHOP RIGHT BUSINESS. WE’RE TALKING ABOUT A MERE THREE REFERRAL SALES. WHEN YOUR (3) PERSONAL REFERRALS MAKE THEIR OWN (3) REFERRAL SALES (EACH) THAT CREATES A TOTAL OF (12) REFERRAL SALES...WHICH EARNS YOU AN EXCELLENT $750 IN COMMISSION PAY AND AN ADDITIONAL $500 IN BONUSES. THIS ALSO CREATES A RESIDUAL INCOME THAT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW. THEN ON TOP OF ALL THAT YOU ALSO RECEIVE (4) VALUABLE SHARES IN THE COMPANY BONUS POOL. YES, THERE’S A LOT TO LIKE ABOUT THIS OUTSTANDING SHOP RIGHT OPPORTUNITY.
Regardless of your career choice, there are universal success factors that are necessary, and those are exactly what are being offered here. From day one our company’s primary goal was all about one thing: making sure our Representatives are successful.
To have success as a professional singer you have to have that...great song. To have success as an actor you must have that...great movie. To have success in business, WITHOUT QUESTION, you absolutely must have excellent undeniably great products and programs that you will not find any where else! Products that are real, meaningful and life impacting! Products and programs that are unparalleled for home-based businesses of any type.
NO COMPETITION...WHAT SO EVER. Let me share just a few wonderful examples.
YOU GIVE SOMETHING TO SENIORS AT ZERO COST TO THEM AND THEY RECEIVE $8,000 UP TO $80,000 AND YOU RECEIVE $400 JUST FOR TELLING THEM ABOUT IT! TELL 100 SENIORS AND EARN $40,000.
YOU SHOW A FAMILY HOW THEY CAN GET A NEW HOME AT WHOLESALE INSTEAD OF PAYING RETAIL, NOT ONLY CAN THEY PURCHASE A BRAND NEW HOME AT WHOLESALE, BUT GET PAID $40,000 OR MORE JUST FOR BUILDING THEIR NEW DREAM HOME, & YOU RECEIVE $1,000 JUST FOR TELLING THEM ABOUT IT! TELL 30 FAMILIES AND IT EQUATES TO $30,000 FOR YOU !
Be able to Shop-on-line at over 1,000 retail stores, while saving & making money, is readily accessible to You. Have an excellent restaurant discount card good at 24 popular eateries good for 24 months delivered right to your mail box.
YES, There are 17 ways to make money along with 11 ways to save with SHOP RIGHT.
YOU’RE the one listening to this message so we’re talking about helping YOU CHANGE YOUR LIFE & THE LIVES OF THOSE YOU CARE ABOUT FOR THE BETTER. Ask our Reps, they will tell you that we are always there to provide continual and congenial support and assitance. SHOP RIGHT will always go that extra mile to help make you successful.
Another example of how we create a high Success Rate for our Reps is in the structure of the SHOP RIGHT PAY PLAN. Our PAY PLAN was specifically designed to STOP that 95% failure rate people have been enduring for over 40 years. In Fact, this is the very reason you only need (3) referral sales to be qualified to be paid (for life) with your Shop Right business. How much you earn and how fast your business grows is up to each individual Rep. Other companies may talk a good game, but THE FACT is when you add up all the commissions & bonuses that SHOP RIGHT pays out to our Reps you’re looking at over 80% of the total monies being paid to our Reps. The bottom line is we expect YOU to earn a significant monthly income.
The Marketing Formula for YOUR success is simple. FIRST, direct your prospects to our (2) toll-free phone messages, THEN simply have them review your website HOME PAGE which contain our (3) movies. You Don’t need to sell SHOP RIGHT as we do ALL THE MARKETING for you. Remember: we offer a complete system for making YOU MONEY. Your only job to make money, A LOT OF MONEY, is to get your prospects to our (3) presentation movies..that’s it. Folks, this is as easy as falling of a log!
ON TOP OF EVERYTHING MENTIONED The Company’s Bonus Pool is paid every 60 days. The bonus pool is paid from Shop Right’s investment into the Agape Energy Alliance Oil & Gas Company PLUS $300 paid into the Bonus Pool from each approved SENIOR FOCUS GROUP applicant, PLUS, $500 is also paid on each New Home built through our New Home Program. As Mentioned other companies may talk a good game, about YOU being successful, but we have shown that we are serious by creating a REP’S FIRST Success Driven Opportunity for our Reps. With SHOP RIGHT you have truly found a home with:
The Right Products & Programs,
The Right PAY PLAN,
The Right Marketing System...
along with a dedicated business team that will WORK WITH YOU and FOR YOU. What we offer is OUR PROMISE to do our part to help you create your very own OUTSTANDING home-based business. YOU CAN’T HELP BUT MAKE MONEY. No Magic Here. SHOP RIGHT does not want Reps to...WORK HARD, we want our Reps to...WORK SMART. And that’s exactly what OUR PROGRAM from (A) TO (Z) IS ALL ABOUT, WORKING SMART. SIMPLY USE OUR (3) WEBSITE MOVIES AND YOUR SUCCESS IS A GIVEN.
COME JOIN US..WE JOYFULLY WELCOME YOU TO MAKE THE "BUSINESS DECISION" TO JOIN THE SHOP RIGHT FAMILY OF SUCCESSFUL REPRESENTATIVES.
Sincerely,
Affiliates Manager
Shop Right
http://www.sright.com
support@sright.com
”
- Here is a reminder to those who have not been exposed to the cycler craze about a year ago. I responded to one of my readers in this fashion:
“I guess I should answer the obvious one... about the cycler at CommandCycler. We all know, well I guess not, that cyclers like that one last about a few hours, or days, some times, but slow as molasses if they do. The activity happens in a frenzy on opening then dies in a few hours, because it's not a fixed time cycler. Meaning... it's not a 10 day cycler... it's just thrown out there like some meat to some dogs and they go at it. Soon it is done.
To know, you would have had to been around that industry a year ago, when I monitored those at 1worldDoublers.com and tried to guide folks through that minefield!
Some are trying to start a resurgence in those... but I keep advising against it, unless you have a high-speed connection, can stay up late at night, and act quickly. So for the most part I discourage folks from participating in those. Cyclers of this type are even more high risk than even the HYIPs.
js”
- dd empowerism.com (Use the Reviews button up top, Ctrl-F on Empowerism.)
Ok folks now listen up.
It is rare that such an opportunity comes along. It is not about Empowerism.com. It is about Derek Bohlken. I'm going to be brief.
About a year ago I was alerted to FFSI, a great opp. The top leader there was Derek Bohlken. He was earning about 80 grand a month at that time, as I recall.
Well, I joined. I managed to get about 60 folks signed up there. Then the Company announced that it had to shut down all other Countries but the USA, in terms of participating in the programme. As I am in Canada, guess what? I lost my whole downline.
And Derek lost a lot of downline as well! But he persevered!
Today, it looks like he's lost even more.
Here is the note he sent me today (am still on his list):
"As you may have heard, FFSI (formerly Retire Quickly) has now changed in a way that no longer allows me to have a full time income and help others create residual income.
I can see it as a disappointment, or I can see it as an opportunity.
It is an opportunity for both of us, because I plan to replace FFSI with another business, and rebuild my nearly 19,000 member downline in another business.
I have not decided what my primary business will be and I am looking, but I plan to "bundle" it with Empowerism, which is a very low cost, stable business that offers leads, support, training, etc. Empowerism can also create a great residual income as well.
Here is where the opportunity for you comes in:
While I am looking for a business to replace FFSI, I will build Empowerism now and into the future and I will help a lot of people succeed with that. It has a forced matrix and is only $25 to get started so there is very low risk and very high reward potential by working with me on this.
Also, and probably more importantly, if you join Empowerism with me now and actively work with me to build that business, you will be among the very first to be offered the other business when that time comes.
That would literally guarantee your success.
Here is the link to Empowerism: (Use the Reviews button up top, Ctrl-F on Empowerism.)
All you have to do is enroll there, and I will contact you with the information on how we are building it and I will help you very directly.
My only goal is to help myself rebuild to at least 10,000 by the end of the year, and int he process, help you and others build a great, life changing residual income in the process.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Derek Bohlken"
Now. I have already been with Empowerism for two to three years now. And still maintain my membership there (it's pretty well free for me). But I have chosen to sign up again, under Derek. Why? Because this guy is bent on recovering the business that he lost at FFSI. And Empowerism is one of his programmes that he has chosen to recoup those lost earnings, and in the process help everyone that joins in his downline! And am one of them! I just joined today!
You can cancel your subscription any month you wish. So it is not a large risk.
I can vouch for Empowerism. It's been around 7+ years and continues to do well! And yes, yadda yadda yadda and I hate MLM’s, but not when someone as big as Derek is involved! He’s already offered me leads from his previous downline if I wish to contact them! Besides, these guys teach you to take advantage of Google, Yahoo, and BLOGGING! They say e-mail marketing is out or on the way out!
- Ok, those of you who are into horse racing? This one looks pretty good! I once made a bet myself and won some cool cash! Which I then used to pay for the groceries and cigarettes for my Mom and her boyfriend. I was about 12 then. Have not bet on horses since then!
- I never did like the Network set of sites. Don’t join any of them now! A warning!
September 18th (Monday)
- It’s early yet. I will post a few things later on in the day.
- Hey folks! Check this out! It’s better than tinyurl or any of the other free services that offer to shorten your URL (affiliate URL, link, etc.). There’s even an affiliate programme!
- A note from Trish of GlobalAdsPro:
“I was getting rather tired of emails asking "why" and "when" as well as emails advising me how...eh, never mind...
As a result I decided to complete Sep.16th payouts (since it is 17th on the server) first and foremost, before the server end of day. This way at least current payouts will be kept "up to date" without more and more people waiting longer. Naturally, meantime I will be also moving backwards. Tomorrow, 18th server time I will be processing Sep. 17th payouts and so on. This way I also [hopefully] will not have to explain newly joined members individually in their emails why it is taking longer at the moment etc.
I realise this decision will spark controversy and dissatisfied comments, but I believe it will help speed things up by reducing the need of support mail and, naturally, if it does not seem to work, I'll revert to the "old" ways. I do believe it is worth a try, though.
Members who wrote to me telling me it is really of no matter that I have other work commitments [temporarily greater than usual] or Family obligations and that I should maybe change my priorities a little more towards GAP members...you are RIGHT! So I shall...Mind you, I'll also keep this in mind next time members write telling ME about THEIR life troubles [like missed surf due to health problems and such] and asking for help in resolving them - that is, after all, what you'd call fair, isn't it?
Have a pleasant day/evening everyone
No super-woman
Trish ”
My comment? Good move! This will keep the new folks on the block happy as they will see payouts go out on time. Us old folk? Well, she’ll get to us as she works backwards. As the comment about giving more priority to the surf site? I agree! If you’re going to run a surf programme? Then you had better be committed, else it will fail. If you can’t commit the necessary resources, don’t start one! Or get help. If I were to run a surf? And get overwhelmed with the workload? I’d hire someone for 80 bucks a day! Why not? Surely the Admin commissions fee can cover that rather easily if the surf is doing well.
The other thing is, Trish, is that when you get sick, or tired, or too involved with your other activities, it affects thousands! When a few folks get sick, or their hard drives crash, that’s only a few! So your argument about that is null and void. Right? How could you not agree? Again, if you’re going to run a surf site, then you have responsibility to all of the members. That’s all there is to that. You don’t do one of these as a hobby. And I know you have not. Just some feedback.
Oh well, since you don’t read any BLOGs, you will not get my feedback.
- A couple of you have asked me, over time, to re-review SwissCash.biz. I have found some relevant info that suggests clearly that this is a scam run out of Malaysia, or rather, run by a Chinese Malaysian person. There is no Swiss Mutual Fund. Well, you can read about it in the HB-Online Blog. I’ve just added this blogger’s link to the other BLOG links, right up top, far right.
- The only negative comment I have about AceInvest (see Reviews page via Reviews button up top) is that at the bottom of his updates on his info site, he has his own referral link! So if, say, you join the programme, and tell your friends about it, and they go to his info site, they may just join Pedro instead of you! How do you like that? If you don’t like it, please send a complaint to support there (Elena at acespace.biz). Elena has taken it upon herself to refuse my argument on this (am not sure she’s checked with Pedro). She thinks it is fair because it is Pedro’s programme. I have argued that it is unfair to us, because it is WE who are advertising the programme and should get rewarded, and not have our leads taken away!
Here is the sequence of exchanges between myself and Elena:
Please remove that from http://www.aceinfo.acespace.biz/ as it is unfair to me, when I send my clients/readers to that page! They may just sign up with pedro rather than myself. Am sure you understand.
js
Answer from Elena:
Dear JS,
It is fair from the point of view that Pedro is a founder of this program and has a privilege to place his own links ahead of all others. However, the program is giving you your own link (Affiliate Program page, the last paragraph) and you can use all legal ways to advertise the program and give it to all your friends and relatives thus creating your own downline. Looks fair to me.
Kind Regards,
Elena
Ace Support
Answer to Elena:
The thing is, Elena, Pedro is not doing his own advertising with that note that went out. Instead it went out to current members. So if a current member has a BLOG, and posts that, NEW readers may go to the update and sign up with Pedro and so credit was not given to the owner of the BLOG that BROUGHT that person to the opportunity, but to Pedro.
And that is not fair to us.
The owner, Pedro, is free to use his own advertising means to get his own recruits. Right?
js
Elena's answer:
Right, JS. We can discuss Pedro's decisions between us as much as we want, but I don't think this will help. I gave you my answer already. It's only the matter of your acceptance: if you accept our rules - you are very welcome to our programs, if you don't - we are sorry.
Kind Regards,
Elena
AceSpace Support
You see? She's being thick-headed over this. I doubt even Pedro is aware of my "complaint" or appeal. So go for it!
- Well I wish to tell you that I myself support Bush. And his father, and Clinton, and Carter and Raegan. But not Nixxon! You see I know the truth and you may not. So if you wish my thoughts on that... then request. If I get enough requests I may post it.
- Fresh Announcement from WORLDLPP.COM, the folks that let you partake in various acquisitions that they make. For my review click on the Reviews button up top, right, then Ctrl-F on WorldLpp.
“Hi everyone - Conrad here again with some updates.
We are still busily putting the finishing touches on Prizexplosion. It is taking longer than expected as our IT Center is very busy right now and trying to fit this in. It is good that they are busy. The bad part is that PE will take longer than expected to get finished, but should be available within 2 weeks. More on that later as there is further good news down below.
We have just struck a partnership deal with one of the top internet marketers on the internet. He will remain nameless for now (at his request) but he is almost ready to introduce a massive, lucrative, and easily marketable website for everyone. I have received lots of emails with offers and this was by far the best. It will allow you to make generous commissions almost immediately, and will have huge bonuses. What does huge mean? How about a new fully loaded Mercedes Benz? World Cruise? $80,000 in cash?? And there is lots more! The new program is called Megabonusclub.com and should be out either late this week, or next week sometime.
Why is this a good deal for us? Because you will be first in exclusively, but that's not all. We will get $5.00 right to us for every membership sold. That's right - no matter how many members join (and they expect a huge turnout) - we will get $5.00 for each member which will go into the WLPP coffers for promotion and expansion!! Plus you will make great commissions and earn huge bonuses - all in time for the upcoming holidays!! You win - and we get some more marketing capital for all of our programs. Stay tuned for this one and you will be pleasantly surprised. The cost will only be a one time $28.00!!
That's it for now but more very shortly. Keep on marketing your WLPP websites and start spreading the word about Megabonusclub.com! With this capital infusion, I anticipate our growth to really take off! Buy more of our units as well (see other update). G'day.
Conrad
”
- OK! About GoldnDaily.com! I have LOST my patience! First the guy has script issues, zoroes out the accounts, pays to the internal account and not e-gold, then he comes back and says now paying to e-gold (which he did, for a few accounts), then he sends out an e-mail saying essentially “If you pay me fifty bucks via a $50 upgrade I will fix your account!” and then ignores an e-mail I sent him that I would agree to that if he would guarantee it! Now I have surfed today, without a response from him, and guess what? More bullshit about e-gold not responding and my measely dollar twenty going into my internal account!
“Hello
The egold server has timed out on the payment request
OR your account information is not valid (1610172)
DATE: 18-09-2006
The payment has been added to your account balance and can be used for payout on the payouts date or can be used at anytime to upgrade
Thank You !!
GoldnDaily.com
Your payout has been completed !!
”
This is such bullshit that we should ALL report him to e-gold! Use the contact link there! Am tired of this scammer! He reminds me much of the espot scammer, that brayed all about how he was wronged, and after I offered a public apology he took the money and ran within a few days after that! Dang it! Send this guy home! By the way, this guy has still not accounted for the stats discrepancies! He should have FAR MORE in e-gold Balance than he reports! I think he used my idea of a sliding scale to keep folks confident! I said, previously, that as long as that 32K remained steady, and incoming and outgoing merely sled up a scale... then we are fairly safe. Well, no more such suggestions! Release the dogs!
- Here is the 12by12Daily Forum link: http://www.12by12dailyforum.autosurfinfo.com/ For signup to 12by12daily, please, first visit my review by clicking on the Reviews Button up top, right, then Ctrl-f on 12by12. I really think this one has not only stabilized but is also picking up steam! It’s one of the only surfs I trust right now. There are a couple of others, sure, but this one I trust the most. The real reason that I direct you to the Reviews page? It’s because a number of folks have chosen to get a free copy of this review site! And I have sworn to make my site duplicable! Without any effort on their part (just use the Sign Up button up top to get your own free 9PR Review site). OK? Then you will receive your own 9PR link and just advertise that, put in your own id beside each programme I list on the Reviews page, and you will get the commissions! Not I! Most of the programmes I list are one tier, so you will benefit without a doubt and I will miss out. But that’s fine. Am not here for the money, solely!
Here is the MMG forum on 12by12daily: http://www.moneymakergroup.com/index.php?showtopic=90125&st=12270 Looks all good! Many, many, reports of being paid and happy clients! (And I just upgraded by two grand!)
- dd investmentlimit.com
From first glance, the lowest plan may pan out from Forex.. but the others cannot. It's not due to the size of the account! The percent is due to daily trading, no matter the amount of money! So that's the first red flag there. Of course I have not examined this one in detail, but am betting that it is a scam.
I just don't trust these guys, nor believe in what they are telling you! Percent ROI or Profit is not based on how much money you put down, by definition of percent! Of course if you put a lot more money down, you will earn a lot more, but percent wise? The same as with a small amount! So who are they trying to fool? You? Yep.
js
- This from GoldnDaily scammer Admin! And I still say he’s a scammer and best avoid his programme!
“QUOTE(WePaidyou ADMIN @ Sep 18 2006, 02:57 PM)
THIS IS BECOMING A NIGHTMARE
I TOLD YOU I WONT GIVEUP! I AM HAVING A HORRIBLE TIME WITH E-GOLD ACCOUNTS. IT SEEMS THAT SOMEONE IS DARNED WELL TO DETERMINED TO CAUSE HEADACHES. I AM WORKING ON THIS TO SOLVE IT. E-GOLD COULD BE DIRECTLY BEHIND THIS SOMEHOW AS WELL.
I AM WORKING TO ADD ALERTPAY INTO THE PAYOUT PROCESS THIS MIGHT ELIMINATE SOME OF THE MESS AS I WONT ACCEPT ALERTPAY AS A PAYMENT PROCESSOR, ONLY AS A WAY FOR MEMBERS TO BE PAID, ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE IS TO ADD A ATM CARD AND SEND IT TO ALL MEM,BERS.
PLEASE REMEMBER I AM WORKING FOR YOU THE MEMBER AND I WILL STILL BE WORKING FOR THE MEMBERS. ALL WILL BE CORRECTED OR THERE MIGHT AS WELL NOT BE A E-GOLD AS ITS BECOMING LIKE STORMPAY, NO ONE SURFING AND ADVERTISING WILL USE THEM.
Thank You Admin
”
To suggest that e-gold may be behind this as well? That is ludicrous! They would never attempt such a thing! Or issue such a thing!
He’s saying bullshit! e-Gold is still the best pay processor out there! Proven! Him saying such things reveals that he’s a scam artist! Best to shut this guy down soon! Please! All of you! Go to e-gold.com the click on Contact Us up top and report this guy!
- Wow! Empowerism is going really well!
3 on my first level, 9 on my second level, 6 on my third level, 4 on my 4th level! Wow! And an Admin of a major surf site just joine me tonight and sent out an e-mail to all of his members! So that’s more overspill for you, if you get in three now! By the way... I can place people anywhere I want!
September 17th (Sunday)
- I believe and affirm that am taking this day off. Let’s see what happens.
- Avoid this one: it is unrealistic, very unrealistic, so most likely not just a ponzi, but a scam.
200%-350% After 1 day (Full Automatic)
http://www.deposit-hyip.com
- GlobalAdsPro: I was paid last night after putting in a support request, on my first pending. One more to go.
- Here is another one to avoid as it is likely more than a ponzi, a scam!
Started Apr 21, 2006
Running days 104
Total accounts 1799
VIP accounts 368
Total deposited $98551.25
Total withdraw $28552.11
Last update Sep 11, 2006
300%~400% After 1 DAY! (AUTO Withdraw!)
Plan Spent Amount ($) Daily Profit (%)
Plan 1 $30 - $49 + $20 Free Bonus 300.00
Plan 2 $50 - $99 + $30 Free Bonus 350.00
Plan 3 $100- $999 + $50 Free Bonus 400.00
Plan 4 $1000- $5,000 + $100 Free Bonus 400.00
http://www.fasthyip.org
- Just to re-emphasize: Goldwilling.org is most likely a scam, not just a ponzi. Whether intentional or not.
- Get a load of this!
“Dear members:
I am the admin of 15biz.org.
Today our account was suspended by the web hosting and we don't know why. We have contacted the hosting owner but no reply, so we decide to move our website to another safety hosting, it may take 24~48 hours.
All the information was lost, so we will rebuild the database, if you want your money back, please reply this email including your profile below:
1.Username
2.Password
3.deposit ammount and batch number
4.Your contact Email address”
You don’t know why? Because you’re a scam operation! You idiot! I’ve tried to get the hosting company to shut you down and finally they did! Get off this planet! Check my BLOG! Non-responsive scammer! Oops, hehe, sorry to be so... um... blatant!
- BreakthroughTraffic autosurf: ho hum. Yawn. Gulp. Whaaaa? Who woke me up? Stand and deliver! Ooops, nobody here. Sorry. Bye!
September 16th (Saturday)
- CommandSurf is still down due to new PATS Pro Script not working as it should and fixes are being made:
Stay tuned! Don’t worry about your cashouts and such. They will be done, according to Admin.
“Attention All Enlistees!
CommandSurf and CommandBravo were undergoing maintenance in order to launch with our new script adjustments and features .
Obviously that went wrong and we are forced to shut down both sites until EVERYTHING is as it should be.
There is a problem on the script side and we are communicating with PatsPro to get it to work.
We are aware cashouts are today and tomorrow but we can not continue to have the sites up in the states they were in.
Once we re-open the sites we will give you the opportunity to cashout.
We will have the site back up as soon as possible, I am hoping for the middle of next week if not sooner.
In the meantime, please take a look at our Command Network at Command Corps.
For the latest information please visit CommandForum and CommandBlogs.
Thank you all for your steadfast support
The General, CommandSurf.com Admin”
- I was reminded by Blondie that I should have mentioned that you can actually leave comments for the world to see in the CommandSurf blog. So there you have it. Of course you can also leave comments here, but you first have to send me the comment.
- If you did not read the addendum to my Bush post, here it is and I agree with the reader:
“John, Just let me say first that I am not a Bush supporter. That being said I think it is ridiculous to think that Bush would actually say some thing like that in a public press conference. If he had, the main news media would have been all over it. What really happened is that Bush was quoting what a prisoner at GITMO had said to one of his guards. They just played the audio out of context on the Franken show. This only shows you how far Al Franken will stoop to go after Bush. There are plenty of other legitimate things to criticize Bush about. Al Franken has no credibility in my book and will do anything to discredit anybody he goes after. I only had to do a little research on the net to find what really happened. I hope you can do the same and post it on you Blog. Thank you.”
- Avoid: http://www.deposit-hyip.com
Started Sep 17, 2006 (it’s not even Sept. 17th, here, in Canada)
200%-350% After 1 day (Full Automatic)
400% After 2 days (Full Automatic)
1000% After 5 days (Full Automatic)
AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE! Else you will lose your spends! Small or large! I should hire someone to limit such accounts with e-gold, but... my services are free, so I can't do that! Volunteer. Simply go to e-gold.com, click on Contact Us up top and tell them that these ROIs are ridiculous and that these folks are just collection your e-gold.
Now look, I post the above because most new folks (newbies) don’t know what’s going on. The above post is not meant for those of you who have been around long enough to recognize such scams. But there are many folks getting on board that simply don’t know about this. So I post these. Hope you’re OK with that.
- Am not sure I like the post below from MVPSurf Admin. The recovery methods are in the MLM industry. MLM is very difficult to work. Am not saying this from reading things. Am saying this from 8 years of experience, after having recruited and helped recruit 2500 distributors in my own dowline. You have to be very active, very full of energy and enthusiasm, charisma, and so on, to get folks motivated to do this thing. Yes, the post below seems to indicate that you will have signups as a result of Admin's help... but that does not bond, or cement, those new folks to the opportunity! It is not the same! It is not personal! And for MLM to succeed, you have to be PERSONAL! And an Influence. So based on that... am not very convinced that the Admin’s plans will have much success. Sorry. But that's just my own gut feel, based on experience, not conjecture. But I do admire the Admin’s efforts to get those funds restored.
By the way, where is the full disclosure of how those funds were hacked? Sorry, I don't read too many forum threads, there is just too much dogfighting in those and disinfo. So that's why I ask, just here. If anyone has the info, please send to me via the support link up top. And thanks.
"A little update on the site.
I am going forward with Alertpay upgrades as if that was the only processor we ever had. Please continue to surf if you are an E-gold or E-bullion user. Checking the Alexa rating does not mean anything right now. I know it looks like the site is dead but that is just because we changed servers again. I am waiting to contact them again to change that, but we are moving servers one more time tonight. This is with the new secure script, and hosting. So those rating at Alexa should be back to normal in a couple of days.
This is what is going on with the E-gold, and E-bullion users at this time. I am getting the funds in outside sources that will be listed in the bottom of this message. I will not give out Alertpay money to these members for two reasons. Number one is. Most Alertpay members use them because they do not trust E-gold, and it would not be right to have this hacking still affect them just because I accepted E-gold. Second reason is no one would join this site if they thought that it was really just going to recover funds from Alertpay upgrades. The program would look to be in the red to them before they even got in. That means the site would die anyway, and even more would lose.
I have to make a recovery plan that will go towards to E-gold, and E-bullion members on a completely separate source of income. That is being done already by a couple of different ways. First we will be holding a lottery like sweepstakes. This will be worked out in the next few days. You will be able to use your earnings to purchase. The details on this will be figured out, and reported to you all when they are complete.
The most important, and quickest way to recover the funds is if I can get 40 members that will sign up for legal protection from Pre-Paid legal. That would bring in 10,000 instantly to pay back to E-gold members. This idea was only presented last night in the forum of Money Maker Group, and we already have 10 that will do it. We can duplicate this every month or even more than 40 in any given month to bring in this money. We do not have to stop at 40. The cost is only 46 to the member, and 36 per month after that They would need to try and keep the service for 1 year but there is no contract to do so. You may quit at any time. This option is only available to US and Canadian citizens. You can get family members in also. They do not have to be mvpsurf members. Please check out my website for more details. Please do not sign up until we have a head count so we can get the true amount of interested people.
http://wserver0.prepaidlegal.com/Multisite/Multisite?site=hub&assoc=michaelprusa
The Next option that is going even better in response by members is Joining Oxyfresh. If you did join you would not have to recruit like in a normal MLM fashion. You would be placed under the person that signed up before you. This would be duplicated as new people join so you would not have to do anything. The cost is $30 to join then you would be required to spend $100 a month for products each month. The $30 is a one time enrollment fee. This $100 would be covered, and you would have no out of pocket as we get four more members placed under you. So you at that point would start making money through the Oxyfresh program in addition to bringing this surf site to where it was before the hacking. So it is a win, win situation for you all. If you are interested in this option please contact Oxysheagirl at the Money Maker group forum. Don't put it off to long. This one is going fast, and the sooner you join the faster you will start making money. Here is the link to the site. Do not join before you contact Oxysheagirl. You will be given a link to sign up under from another member. If you sign up on your own you would be just that Alone, and we do not want you to be alone. This is available in more than the US. You would need to see if it is in your country before you could join.
http://www.oxyfreshww.com/mm_intro.asp
The third option is a new MLM to the block. It is in pre-launch but is a company that has been serving the world for over 4 years. It is called Mseacai. This is a company that delivers multi level supplements for your health. We at MVPSURF want you all to keep healthy. Stress is not good for your health, and in the current surf industry we need all the help we can get. This option is available in more countries than the other two options, and is also the cheapest to join. It is around $47, and you would get in a 2x7 forced matrix. This means as we at MVPSURF place people under you that sign up through the surf site, you will also get spill over form other people in your organization. Again you would not have to recruit. We do that for you, and you get a very good product that will enhance you're health while you sit back and surf. And the most important of all. You make money doing nothing. Here is the link. If you are interested please contact "psr64" at the Money Maker Group forum. She is in charge of placement of members so no one will be left out from the matrix. This is the link.
http://www.myseacai.com/michaelprusa
I know this is strange to have a surf site show these opportunities, but it is a way to not only recover from the hacking of the E-gold, and E-bullion accounts, but also to make this site be the first in the industry to have a proven source of income from an out side venue. That would make us not a ponzi. Lets not only take the site from the non paying section but also make it legal all in the same motion.
Now to the hacking update. I have been notified by E-bullion that I can make a claim, and there may be a chance to get the funds back. Just a chance. Do not get your hopes up, but I am going to pursue getting it back from the hackers.
For more details on the above offers please go to the Money Maker Group forum. Hers is a link to the current page. http://www.moneymakergroup.com/index.php?showtopic=72416&st=5370
Thank you all,
Michael Prusa
MVPSURF admin"
- I have a recommendation to all (auto)surf Admins out there.
Having worked in a large IT Environment (mainframes, minis) for Esso/Exxon/Imperial Oil for a few years (10) as a programmer, analyst, senior analyst, and project analyst, I learned one very important thing.
And that is.... never, ever, chance releasing a new version of a programme (or script in this case) into a live (Production) environment! The resultant downtime and errors and possible damage to the database(s) may be terminal! For the folks involved in that release!
So what did we do about it? We set up what's called a test environment, and in this case it would be a different domain, a test domain/website, where we would install the new programme or script, a copy of the Production/Live database(s), and then test the hell out of it!
Once all the bugs are fixed (and in the meantime, at the same time, the live, Production application is still running and all users/clients are accessing and being happy, or sad) we can then announce some maintenance downtime while the new programmes/scripts are installed! Then we go live and cross our fingers, having backups at the ready, of course!
So that's how one would implement new changes to existing scripts/programmes! And keep backups on the premises and off premises. Now.. who does that here? Admins? Put up your hands if you do. What? No hands? I thought so.
Well, in any case, take the above advice to heart and run a successful programme/script/surf/hyip in the future!
js
(Maybe this is why I will run a more successful surf site? I don’t know. Just a thought.)
- Finally the 15biz.org account at hostgator has been suspended! Woohoo! About time!
- If you get any adverts for HGH or the Human Growth Hormone? Forget about it! Those are just precursors and do not generate enough HGH to prove all those studies, which were done by injection, right into the bloodstream of HGH itself! Yes it does seem to reverse the aging process somewhat, but not by precursors! So just forget about it. I say this to you from 8 plus years being a Nutritionist and so having studied this kind of stuff extensively, and having a good memory!
September 15th (Friday)
- Please do NOT advertise my BLOG link on (auto)surf sites, not even your own 9PR BLOG link, ok? Simply advertise your own 9PR link that was sent to you when you signed up here for free.
- CommandSurf is undergoing maintenance even though it may not look like it. So don’t surf. You will be credited. As well, if you are upgrading today (as the site is up, but being tweaked) or have upgraded today then open up a ticket and Admin will credit you for today.
- I wonder how many support requests I must make to get the Admin of GoldnDaily to restore my cash balance and upgrade level (both over $300)? They were zeroed out when he cleared the database.
Addendum: Well it seems I have not been reading their forum. And that's true. So I missed the update from admin saying he's working on fixing accounts and has done over 2000 already. Well that's good news. Let’s see what happens.
- Check out the CommandSurf BLOG! I’ve been invited to be a blogger there and have accepted.
- Have you ever wondered about the real reason for keeping the Mexico/USA border open? Be prepared for more mayhem!
- My friend Donnie is really into Shop Right, that Oil Concern that will give you a share or more in the Oil Drilling Industry where they have about an 85% success rate and he reports the following on one of their programmes: (see the Review on them via the Reviews button up top, then Ctrl-F on Shop Right)
“John, I talked with Alex from Shop Right today. Alex informed me the $10,000 Bonus was going to be given to anyone that is 65 and older and is accepted into the Senior Focus Group! The Shop Right member that submits that application will receive a $400 1st referral fee and the 2nd referral fee is $100” -- for more details first see my Review, then visit the site.
- CommandBravo is back up and open for cashouts. CommandSurf is not ready as yet. That’s what I hear from the Admin there.
- Woohoo! Both 12by12daily and GlobalAdsPro are in an actual UPTREND! See the chart below! And use the Reviews button way up top, right, then Ctrl-F on 12by12 and/or GlobalAds to find my reviews, join, and play!
- Why does a chicken coup have two doors (and I’ve seen ‘em) instead of four?
Because if it had four doors, it would be called a chicken sedan!
- I just stole this info on Depression and how to treat it:
“The amino acids D, L-pheylalanine and L-tyrosine are a viable alternative to antidepressant drugs.
A deficiency in vitamins and minerals in the body can also cause depression. If this condition is corrected, depression owing to this cause can be alleviated. Even if you are not sure if you lack vitamins and minerals, supplementing your diet with them will often improve symptoms related to depression and will contribute to better overall health.
Some Very Useful Herbs The herb St. John's Wort (Hypericum perforatum) in an extracted standardized form is being used in Germany and other European countries to treat depression in its mild and moderate forms. It is also known to alleviate anxiety and sleep disorders.
This herb claims many benefits – among them are its anti-depressive and antiviral properties.
The Ginkgo (Ginkgo Biloba) extract, while not a primary treatment for major cases of depression, is an excellent supplement to any depression-related syndrome. Studies are beginning to show that Ginkgo can be used to treat some forms of depression that are not responsive to antidepressant agents. In cases of resistant depression, Ginkgo Biloba is beginning to appear attractive to the medical world.
Cut Back on Those Soft Drinks Many practitioners advocate a nutrition oriented approach to treating depression. They believe that the answer to the depression question can be found in the diet of a person. Studies show that a decrease in the intake of sugars and refined carbohydrates can produce relief from symptoms of depression.
This diet will entail cutting out sugary drinks, pasta, white bread, and other processed foods. For your carbohydrate needs, it would be better to stick to grains, whole wheat, and other natural plant based carbohydrates. Also, cutting down on these kinds of food can do wonders for one’s overall health.
This treatment is recommended for those who feel depressed and languid during the late hours of the morning and the afternoon. For these people, eating sugary foods will induce a temporary feeling of alleviation from depression. However, this is only for a few minutes, and the body automatically reverts to languid depression.
Depression is one serious disorder that should not be taken for granted. Some people will equate depression with other natural feelings such as anger, happiness, and sadness. However, depression is much more complicated than that. It is a disorder and an ailment that can be treated by natural or medical means. It would do well to consult your doctor for more information on dealing with depression.”
- New AveInvest Announcement (click on the Reviews button up top, then Ctrl-F on AceInvest to find out more):
“The following Trade already starts the 2nd of October.
If you want to participate in the October Trading, please see the
overview below for the deadlines of various payment methods to be used.
- Prior to 28 September for e-Bullion/e-Gold plus paid by Commissions
- Prior to 24 September for a Cash Deposit in a bank or Western Union
- Prior to 20 September for a Bank Wire or Cash by Mail
- Prior to 18 September (post dated) for any kind of Check
If you want to order Trading Units and you would like to pay by any kind of paper draft (Money Order, Personal Check, Postal Money Order,
Traveler's Check or Cashier’s Check).
Get Your Check in the Mail this Weekend.
Your purchased Trading Units will be active in the October Trade if the
date stamp on the envelope is 18 September or sooner!
Remember: The following applies to checks issued in USD:
1) Make Checks Payable to AceGlobal
2) Payment Description: PayAce Deposit from (Username)
3) Add $5 tot the total amount ($150 per Unit)
4) Mailing Address:
AceGlobal
PO Box 75646
1070AP Amsterdam
The Netherlands
5) Use First Class service, no need to use Courier Service or Overnight
6) When the check is in the mail, email confirmation to
pay@acexchange.biz and let them know this information:
Your AceInvest Username
Number of Trading Units
Currency that you have sent
Amount that you have sent
Service fee that you have included
What is the payment method
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”
- I have just noticed that some of you don’t have to correct link in your backoffice at 9PR for programs that are private, like PIU, that require an email address! You simply have put in your userid. But it’s a mailto: link, so requires your FULL e-mail address. So please sign in and correct that.
- A situation just came up where I felt I needed to advise someone over a situation coming up. I will use an example. Suppose you are trying to obtain a VISA to a certain Country and you know it will be a difficult thing. So.. if you can find out who is the Official in charge of the approval? Here is what you do: it does not matter which Religion you are following. Simply set up a place that is sacred, that is devoted to your God, to whom you pray. Make sure you only use that space for worship and prayer and/or meditation. Now, attain the name of the Official, or photograph, and so on, and then offer that to the Divine, as you do normally, and/or pray.... and offer only thoughts of good/awakening and so on, or just simply pray... but do NOT pray for being favored and so on. Simply pray for the person’s recognition of God or the Divine and goodwill to him or her. That’s it. You will be quite surprised over their reaction in the coming days. Some would say... simply send them Love! However you do that! Just do it.
- Yes, am not political, but I can’t ignore it, can you?
“Subject: FW: Bush Steps on It Big Time...Tells NY Times Reporter he will kill him
Today I got to speak with Joe Conason during a break on today’s Al Franken Show. He told us the big story is about how Bush really blew it yesterday when he threatened Adam Clymer, a NY Times reporter during a press conference! For a President of the United States to say such a thing to a reporter is beyond imagination!
It’s time for WE THE PEOPLE to MAKE A STAND ABOUT THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY NOT APPROPRIATE OR ACCEPTABLE FOR ANY PRESIDENT TO DO! Shocking! Shocking! Shocking!
Bush said this in his press conference yesterday to Adam Clymer, the NY Times reporter who President Bush referred to as a 'major league asshole' in 2000:
"I'll never forget your face! I will kill you, your brothers, your mother, and sisters! HEAR IT HERE! http://download10.rbn.com/airam/airam/pod/download/franken/bushkill.mp3 AUDIO. But this could have been taken out of context! -- js, so just be careful.
Clymer doesn't even have any brothers! Shocking! A Tidal Wave Of Truth ~ 09-08-06
This was seen by more then 500,000 people, last week. This weekend they will have a big debate about it nation wide.
Here comes the tidal wave of truth...please pass it on as you see fit... http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=2507263054811686324&hl=nl YOU MUST VIEW THIS VIDEO! -- js -- There you go! What can you feel and think after that? Hmmm?
The information in this email does not necessarily reflect the views of Americans for Constitutional Enforcement ( http://www.A4CE.org).”
By the way, I do believe that Bush’s comment was taken out of context. And a reader just sent this to confirm that:
“John, Just let me say first that I am not a Bush supporter. That being said I think it is ridiculous to think that Bush would actually say some thing like that in a public press conference. If he had, the main news media would have been all over it. What really happened is that Bush was quoting what a prisoner at GITMO had said to one of his guards. They just played the audio out of context on the Franken show. This only shows you how far Al Franken will stoop to go after Bush. There are plenty of other legitimate things to criticize Bush about. Al Franken has no credibility in my book and will do anything to discredit anybody he goes after. I only had to do a little research on the net to find what really happened. I hope you can do the same and post it on you Blog. Thank you.”
- One final announcement re the 4E-Corps scam:
“Recorded by "Kathryn with The Vortex Team".
Joel Sauceda's last words were...
We need to destroy this recording as soon as Enrique hears it No one else needs to hear this call. If it ends up in the wrong hands it could be over!
Sorry, Joel, EVERYONE WILL HEAR THIS CALL!!!
The LAST 45 Minutes is THE BEST.... BLACKMAIL, EXTORTION and CONSPIRACY.
Here is the concrete proof we have all been waiting forstraight out of the mouths of 4-E Corp.s most recognized and self-appointed leaders. This is a recording of a LIVE conference call held approximately three weeks ago!
Click here to listen to the FRAUD www.my4ecorp.com/news
or to go direct to the call www.my4ecorp.com/news/expose.mp3
I think the fat lady just sang!
I guess my gut feel was right on that one!
The conference call recording to which you are about to listen contains harsh language which is not suitable for children! I finally acquired a copy of the unedited two-hour conference call recorded by 4-E Corp.s field leaders, who were planning on giving it to the owner of Ethos FR, Enrique De Vilmorin. The 4-E leaders were planning on doing this in hopes that since Enrique is 4E Corp.s manufacturing partner, he would take action against the current 4E Owners because of the embezzlement of 4-E funds, forgery, fraud, failure to process legitimate refunds, the list is practically endless. However, as we all know, 4-Es Owners and Enrique are still comfortably in bed with each other and the cover-up continues.
”
- I guess I just joined the RED LIST of FEMA as I have just joined http://www.A4CE.org to see what they are saying.
- Here is a good response from PATS Pro script Creators:
“Response From Pats Pro.
Thank you all for your suggestions. Your opinion is very important to us. It will help make PATS Pro better and more reliable. Those of you who send requests to the Support Service should receive direct replies to your email addresses. We have checked our server and your sites and everything is working normally now.
However we understand your concerns and not really happy with this situation. This is why in our new version which will be released in a week we changed the activation algorithm and now your PATS Pro sites will keep working even if our server is offline. So there should be completely no problem with activation after the upgrade.
Moreover right now we are making a mirror of our activation server to make it even more stable and reliable.
We apologize for any inconvenience you might have with our script. We are doing everything we can to improve it and hope these problems will not take place in the future. Please contact our Support Service if you have more questions.
Regarding the security requests we know that a few sites using PATS Pro were hacked and some of our customers are worried after that. But there were no hacking attempts reported since version 3.7 was released almost a month ago. In fact most of sites that were hacked either did not upgrade on time or used illegall copies that were outdated and insecure.
”
September 14th (Thursday)
- Dreary day.
- Sad news from Montreal. A troubled teen/gunman, dressed all in black (goth) went into a school in Montreal and opened fire on students in a cafeteria (less than 24 hrs ago). Many wounded, two dead (I think). He himself was finally shot dead by Police.
In the coming days watch for a terrorist spin on this! Am fairly certain it will happen. The shooter was successful in creating terror in the hearts of many, not just in those of Montreal, Canada.
- Avoid PeraAds. My source(s) revealed a while back that it is a scam. And please don’t quote me!}
- AceInvest info: (use Reviews button up top, then Ctrl-F on Aceinvest to get the review and instructions):
“Hello Everybody,
Some of you may have been on the call yesterday, but for those of you that were not there or do not check AceInfo on a regular basis here is the link to the summary of the call. The link to a recording of the call is available there also. It was a long call as there was a lot of very important and exciting information that was shared with us. Those of you that joined AceInvest but have not yet purchased at least one unit please read the summary carefully especially regarding “Ace Exclusive Circle” and “No More Private Members”
http://www.aceinfo.acespace.biz “ But please use the join link on my Reviews page, and not Pedro’s (an sure that is an oversight on their part)! Thanks!
- Have you ever heard of the Council of 9? They were supposedly a group of 9 that channeled through various folks deemed to be clear channels (by the way, the Prophets of old were Channels also, but these days they are not called Prophets who receive visions, hear voices, and such, but Channels).
Well I have news for you! The Council of 9 was created by the CIA and JJ Hurtak (the author of The Book of Knowledge/Keys of Enoch) helped them in this. Various folks were implanted with receivers in their tooth cavities, so that the voices seemed to come from inside their craniums, but were actually radio broadcasts via satellite! But what I find interesting about the book is how much he reveals about what’s to come! And I feel that there are forces at work to actually make all that happen in the near future! It’s an expensive book, but if you’re interested in such matters it may be worth it to get it and read it.
Hey! Maybe one of you can become a Clear and Perfect Channel for some Astral Entity that will give you the scoop on the next best surf programme! Or HYIP! But then again, most of these Astral Entities (Ghosts, daemons, and so on) will just fool around with you and your expense!
- ShopRight announcement (Reviews button up top, Ctrl-F on Shop Right, the Oil Concern! Yes, does not sound like it):
“Dear John,
TONIGHT AT 7:30
We will be sharing information about our new $10,000 Bonus...Don't be late.
At 8:30 p.m.
Mark Miller will have the New Home Training.
1-641-793-7500 pin 736913#
Overseas Reps:
http://kiosk.learn2build.org/cooltalk.exe
Sincerely,
Affiliates Manager
Shop Right
http://www.sright.com
”
- SuccessUniversity, a great session, please listen (click on the Reviews button up top, then Ctrl-F on SuccessU to find my review of them and then join to look around):
“What an incredible call last night! We had a so many people on Johnny's call, just amazing! Success University's National Training Director was on the faculty call to kick off a brand new series that is called "Best of the Best and Worst of the Worst Lessons from Success University Leaders."
Here's a replay of the entire call for your review... http://playaudio-234.com/play.asp?m=341743&f=OZGLTM&ps=7&p=1
You do not want to miss these calls as Johnny Wimbrey reveals secrets long hidden; the real how to's on cutting through hype & confusion to start making serious money in your Success University Business...
In future calls Johnny will be back with a selected list of special guests - who will be placed squarely into the hot seat, while Johnny extracts from them all of their secrets...
” - Folks, I recommend you really do listen to that call, use the link above! I will remind you that you are right in the position that you have wished to be in! There is no argument about that. Just ponder that, before you react. I can explain further, if you wish. But you are really where you are at, because that’s exactly where you want to be! But most of the time you don’t notice that you have hidden desires and thoughts... and you either sabotage your own success, or you put yourself in exactly the position you wish to be, secretly. Why? Many reasons. You, yourself, only know 10% or less of what drives you... like an iceberg... only 10% of it is visible, the rest is below water, or in the subconscious! Many forces drive you! The thing is... to find out!
- Well, having listened to the above call, he reminds me of myself when I was 15 years younger and full of myself, with lots of energy and so on. Well, perhaps some folks out there need that but am tired of it. Money is not everything, success in the MLM industry, or surf industry, or whatever industry, is not worth it. So don’t sweat it. Just start reading some spiritual topics and learn about yourself, as an ego (and that’s not meant to be negative), just learn about how the ego tends to be in control. It can become interesting to you! It can also become depressing. But what they hey? What are you here for on this mud ball planet anyway?
- Well Peter was right. Why haven’t I listed Roboform before? Because I kind of ignored it. So now I have signed up and am very impressed. The only thing Peter neglected to do was to send me his personal URL for that. As I discovered, once I signed up, that there is an affiliate programme! Well, in any case, the base version is free! So download it now and use it to sign up with all your surfs and hyips and other ponzis, feeling safe to do so! There is, of course a Professional Version, for which you have to pay some bucks for. But the free version should meet most of your needs!
But make sure you have installed a paid version of Spyware Doctor (user the Reviews button up top). You never know! Do you? I’ve also installed Evidence Eliminator (Reviews button again) and that one am especially impressed with!
- thereclub.com: This is just a cycler! A fixed day cycler, that is. Never thought I’d see one of these again. Well, it is recent, so if you get in now, you will likely cycle. But if it gets past 1.5 months or so? Forget about it! Yeah, I think they are lying through their teeth, so to speak! But... you can still earn some money there right now. Just be cautious.
- Avoid this one like the plague:
http://basic-hourly.com
5.50% - 6.50% Hourly For 24 Hours (Fully Auto)
3.60% - 4.05% Hourly For 48 Hours (Fully Auto)
145% After 1 Day (15% FeedBack instant)
52% Daily For 3 Days +Principal Back
September 13th (Wednesday)
- I’ve just re-upgraded at GlobalAdsPro. Alexa ratings are picking up. Trish still working hard on payouts. Use the Reviews button up top, then Ctrl-F on GlobalAds.
- I don’t know what to believe, GoldnDaily Admin claims some scammers managed to use Italian Liras to scam the system. Is that an e-gold option? I recall this happening a year or more ago with one of the cyclers. In any case, apparently the Admin has our money safe (or record of our money safe) in a database, while he tries to sort out the mess. Frankly, am beginning to distrust the GND Admin. Don’t risk anything there until our moneys have been returned to our accounts and then to e-gold.
- An announcement from AceInvest (listed on the Reviews page)
“Remember - Conference Call coming up!
I am extremely excited; I have such wonderful information to share; make sure to be on this Conference Call!
Conference Call Schedule
========================
Wednesday / (Thursday)
September 13 (14) September
02:00 PM - Los Angeles
05:00 PM - New York
22:00 GMT - London
07:00 AM - Sydney (Thursday)
To listen in the AceConference Room, download this link:
http://www.aceconference.biz/AceSpace.exe
To listen to AceRadio, follow this link:
http://services.acespace.biz/onair2.htm
Pedro Dispenza
Founder
www.acesupport.biz/support
PS: If you have signed up for AceInve$t but did not order a Trading
Unit yet – you have less than 3 weeks left to do so.
Do you really wanna be saying: “If I Had Only Known!”?! in 8 months”
- dd 10xpay.com
This one has got to be not only a ponzi, but an obvious scam. They claim that hyips and surfs fail because of the math. Har! What a joke! And that their techs found a way to pay you ten times your spend! And then do not proceed to explain how it works?! Plus they are accepting almost every pay processor on the Planet! Making it easier for you to lose your money.
And the language they use is ambiguous. They say the pay ten at a time. Does not that means 10x your spend or ten folks at a time? Do they offer refunds? Sure, ten at a time so no need, that’s their obtuse answer!
Well that's just plain kaka. You know? So just stay away from it! No need to do any further DD.
js
- golden-money.biz: AVOID! Scam.
- There are a number of reasons why am reluctant to launch my own surf site right now:
Gold seems to be on a slight downtrend, thus affecting your money.
There are many failures right now, whether legit or not, it stirs up fear in clients’ minds.
Some folks are viewing my impending launch as some kind of a savior... and that the surf site that will last a long while. Well, I can’t promise that! All I can promise is that I won’t “run” with your money.
And that is troubling for me. These days folks don’t just go on reputation. They mostly go on whether they are being paid early, not just on time! Yes, there are a few legends out there (well, maybe just one) and folks are loyal to them... so those few surfs are doing ok. But how will mine do? I can’t live up to the expectations! These are troubled times.
Once I see some stability in this Market.. I may perhaps launch my own (auto)surf site. But I don’t think it will be this month! For obvious reasons! I don’t have huge resources! I only have one small site! And a full address, name, and phone number, where you can hunt me down if I fail! Sounds comforting? Whereas you can’t locate that scammer I kept warning everyone about? Or two, or three? So there you go. We shall just have to wait on my possible launch of my own (auto)surf. If that is what is required... I will get the message and launch.
- Tomorrow, I am going to upgrade at CommandSurf.com by at least one grand! That’s how confident I am in their longevity. 2% per day for 75 days! That’s not shabby! I’ve updated my review: Click on the Reviews button up top, right, then Ctrl-F on CommandSurf. Enjoy!
- It’s funny, you know? I see these ads for “are you paying high prices for gasoline?” and they show these cars that are worth a hundred grand or more! Well, if you ask the folks that are driving those? They don’t give a shit! If they can afford a one hundred grand or more, car, then what the heck do they care about some stupid additive that will save them cents per gallon or what? Totally stupid advertising! They should show an old, dilapidated car, that’s about to run out of gas! And go after those folks! And totally ignore the rich folks! The rich would care less! In fact, they would rather be seen paying MORE than the schmuck beside them in the other lane!
- There is a new entry on the Spirit page. Use the Spirit button up top to see it. I urge you. It is about how a man healed a whole ward of mentally ill patients by simply going over their files, and understanding how he had caused them to be ill. Makes sense? No? Then read the account.
- This just in from DadnDave’s:
“Hi everybody,
An update on the state of dadndaves. Many people are accusing me of neglecting dadndaves, and concentrating on 12by12daily, at the expense of dadndaves. Yes, guilty as charged. It seems that despite my attempts to give you the real picture over a period of many months, many people have not bothered to read, or do not understand the situation with dadndaves. I have already documented the reasons for the demise of dadndaves, but I will give you a brief rundown again.
(You can still read the previous updates by clicking on the link on your members page) By now everybody has heard of the problems associated with Stormpay in the early part of this year. Apart from the actual loss of money in my Stormpay account, I lost all my investments in other autosurf programs which were affected, and either stopped paying or disappeared altogether. At that time I had about half a million dollars invested in various programs, which was bringing in (before February) around $8-900,000 per month. So, as you can see, not only did I lose the half million dollars I had invested, but I also lost a substantial monthly income which was used primarily for payouts at dadndaves. About a month later Paypal decided they no longer wanted to do business with me. This was despite a previously flawless payment record, and verbal assurances from Paypal that this would not happen.
Despite these setbacks I continued to make payouts throughout February, March, and into April, and also paid out hundreds of thousands of dollars in refunds, even shifting substantial sums of money from my bank account which I had been keeping in reserve. Eventually the reserve dried up. I then asked for your support, and I must say the response was great, many people offered to compound for a couple of months instead of requesting cashouts until I could get my cashflow running again, but what I really needed was a show of confidence and a substantial increase in the number of upgrades.
Unfortunately this never came, so here I am with no money, substantial debts, and no way of paying. I had a number of options open to me. First option, close the site and disappear like so many others had before me. Not a good option. Second Option, close the site and offer refunds, pay a few refunds, and then disappear, like so many others had done. Once again, not a good option. Third option, Reset everybodys account to zero, and hope that you would continue to support me, as a couple of other sites had done. Once again, not a good option. The fourth and only option was to find a way of raising the money to pay my members and close the site down honourably. This is the option that I chose.
On July 12th I opened 12by12daily.net, for the sole purpose of generating the funds required to pay out dadndaves members. Obviously with a site like that it is imperative that it runs properly and members at that site are paid first, or it would also fall over. I can tell you that 12by12daily members are being paid every day, being paid on time, and a lot of members are making a lot of money there. It has been a phenomenal success, and if you haven't joined yet, come on over. Could be a good way to revitalise your cashflow while waiting for your dadndaves cashout. Remember if you join under my link, all referral commissions I earn are going to payout dadndaves members. http://12by12daily.net/?ref=2
Only after operating 12by12daily for one month, and seeing that it was going to be as successful as I had hoped, did I make the announcement that dadndaves would close down. Since the opening, we have paid out around $700,000 to dadndaves members, and there is every indication that I will be able to honour my commitment to pay everybody what they are owed. Bear with me, this will take time, but over the period of the next year, before September 4th 2007, all members will be paid all their earnings. Bear in mind also, that if not for the success of 12by12daily, nobody at dadndaves would have been paid during this time.
So, what is the situation now? Payouts are continuing every day. We are no longer giving priority to high flyers, but are paying everybody as we can. For a while I was paying those who emailed me, to get them off my back, but that is not fair on the members who suffer in silence. It is also no longer practical, as there are just too many emails about this subject to even read. If you email me, and ask "When am I going to be paid?" I cannot answer that. I do not know the answer myself. I have reverted to paying in order of receipt of the cashout request. Many of you who have been paid lately, or who are asking about payouts from August should be aware that there are still some members who have not been paid for May, so that is where I am paying from now. When I get to your account, you will be paid for everything you are owed up to the day I pay you. Please, no more emails about this. Everybody will be paid, in time.
In a few days time I will be turning off the cahout button. As I mentioned in the previous paragraph, when i get to your account you will be paid for everything you are owed up until the day I pay you so there is no need for further cashout requests. I will leave it on for a few days so that those members who do not have a pending cashout request can make one.
Thank you for listening
David”
My comment? Good for Trish/David! Let’s just focus on 12by12daily and make those bucks! Although I have over 800 in upgrades in DadnDaves... I don’t care about it as much as I do about 12by12daily! I am noticing that their Alexa rating is going stable... so that’s good news! Let us let Trish focus on 12by12! Instead of being bogged down by DadnDave’s!
- Am investigating this one right now. Looks very promising. Several of my readers say they are being paid by this one for a long time now.
- Hesperian publishes books like "Where there is no doctor" and "Where there is no dentist" for third world countries. These and other books are free for download at their site http://www.hesperian.org/publications_download.php
- I’ve just added a recent review of GOD or Global Online Depository. You can access it here.
- Hey! How about you check this out: http://www.hesperian.org/publications_download.php
Sept. 12th (Tuesday)
- Looks like CommandCorps have just launched their own unique cycler just minutes ago! Here is the link:
http://www.commandcorps.com/area51/ Play as you will. I put in my thirty.
Crap! I cycled my $30 in just minutes! Now have to put back in! Arrooooooooooooooooooooooooo! This is going to be too late even if I send out an ALERT! Good thing I was still up! I’ve just gone in with another 5x30=150!
And cycled again! Har! OK. Way too late to send out an ALERT. By that time it will be dead. As cyclers usually are. Sorry folks, I was not even going to announce it because I know that cyclers die even quicker than HYIPs! Never mind surfs!
js
- Looks like a few sites got hacked, one of them being MVPSurf.
- My source indicates that PATS Pro support never received any reports form the sites that were apparently hacked (like 15HitsDaily) so they have nothing to go on in terms of fixing any apparent security holes. I’ve read a skype conversation between my source and PATS Pro and that’s what was discussed. So if no reports are being sent to support, that would indicate, to me, that they were not really hacked. You don’t just drop a script and fork out more money for another. So I would say that reports from Admin that they were hacked should be questioned seriously.
- It’s already Tuesday and GoldnDaily.com is still paying to the internal account, and not e-gold, as promised! I would, if I were you, not put in any more upgrades nor sign up. There should be no technical reason why they can’t pay to our e-gold accounts. So right now I feel that they are just plain lying and running with out money. Spread the word.
But a few report that they are being paid to their e-gold accounts now. So I will test it yet again tomorrow and report here, in this BLOG.
- 12by12daily forum is cluttered with useless and repeating information. Martin, the Admin there, has received lots of e-mails on that and is working to clean up the forum. First off he’s setting up an FAQ thread. In any case, things are looking up at 12by12daily. You can see my review of them via the Reviews button up top, then Ctrl-f on 12by12.
- Am soon going to re-add the ability to search all of my BLOG pages. So if you need to find a review and it’s not on the current BLOG page, you will be able to do so.
- This just in from Admin of CommandSurf: (I paraphrased the below, up above... but here are the exact words)
“[09:53] Fat Man: alot of folks keep complaining about patspro
[09:53] pat: why they complaining?
[09:53] pat: hackers?
[09:53] 4Newbies: yes
[09:54] 4Newbies: all bullshit
[09:54] 4Newbies: first bob at 15hitsdaily
[09:54] 4Newbies: then reindeersurf
[09:54] 4Newbies: i keep vouching for you.
[09:56] pat: thanks! I asked them a lot of time - send us all details about how they were hacked - nothing. bob at 15hitsdaily even promised send us report of security specialist, but nothing again. I just don't know how to improve security more if I don't know where a hole. :(
[09:56] 4Newbies: there ISNT ONE
[09:56] 4Newbies: if i ever get hacked
[09:56] 4Newbies: i will send you
[09:56] 4Newbies: but it has to do with hosting
[09:56] 4Newbies: u cant prevent that
[09:56] 4Newbies: do u mind if I use what u just said
[09:57] 4Newbies: as proof that u are trying?
[09:58] pat: yes, please. we are always open for any advices which will allow to improve security
[09:58] 4Newbies: ok
----
And this from him as well:
Is it true that the script references pats-pro (your site) each time a member tries to login to check the
status/validity of my script license? If so, what happens if your site goes down?
No, this is not true that PATS Pro checks the license each time any
member of any PATS site logs in. Right now it checks the license only when
the Admin logs in. But some of our clients had problems with it because our
activation server was down for a while. So, in the new version we decided to
change the license checking and now PATS sites will keep working even if our
server does not. There should be no problems with activation after the upgrade.
4newbies “
- Here is some more proof from BigDaddySurf Admin that it was not the PATS Pro script that was responsible for the hack at MVP and ReindeerSurf: and I quote
“Now, first order... Big Daddy Surf.
BDS is NOT in trouble, unless you LET it be in trouble. Hit'n'Runners aside, other than me making a miscalculation, and gave a re-upgrade ratio too much credit, we are not in trouble... Simple as that... we now have postions that are paying, and ready to be paid soon, so that is why this one time I am going too far on the payout period. However to keep the cycle going, we need more than $1000 in new upgrades, vs $10,000 paid out...
Now Reindeer Surf has used the old bullshit excuse of "someone hacked our egold" , and tried to blame it on the script.... I run 2 Pats Pro's... and despite one thing that was vulnerable, 2 versions ago, get a life.. yes Rollersofts server went down.. and it was not right.. Dont make it a "hacking", it was a more of a authentication problem for a few hours.... Not right, but it happened...”
- Here is a post from Admin of Goldndaily.com: (am not sure I believe it, will tell you tomorrow, as today I surfed and the money went into my internal account, not my e-gold account, about four times in a row right now!):
“Well, it seems to me that there is a pattern of sorts appearing here.... unsure.gif
Some get paid to e-Gold in seemingly random pattern. Others get paid to cash
account.
Just suppose that cash requirements are EXCEEDING cash intake...
Suppose that the e-Gold balance is MUCH lower than stated on the site...
You cannot pay out what ISN'T in the account......
When someone upgrades with REAL e-Gold, someone (apparently random) gets paid.
Just a guess, but it fits the current scenario!
and this response from Admin:
or it could be that on some accounts when they upgeaded i never recieved the funds?? since there was a few who tried to cheat the system, well now they cant cheat at least dont think they can. Any how Ive done the best i can and it will be fine, I have funds set aside to do manuall pays on cash balances. PLEASE DONT SEND A REQUEST IT WILL BE DONE IN DUE PROCESS. Ive never cheated anyone and dont intend too now, just be patient your egold will arrive.
I have got everything running now instant payouts are back. There maybe a snag here and there but you can bet on this you will get paid. I dont give a hoot about those who say different theres 1000s going out in egold now.
Upgrade and PROMOTE once again INSTANTLY TO YOUR EGOLD ACCOUNT. Thanks too all” - look at the horrific grammar! Well, I will test this yet again tomorrow and report to you!
- dd guaranty-profit.com
Avoid! 200% per day, closing on Sept. 18th! High Risk, unknown, and impossible. So just avoid!
- I just spoke with a reader of mine from the UK. Basically, there is nothing safe right now in the surf arena, except perhaps for 12by12daily (use Reviews button up top) and GlobalAdsPro (use Reviews button up top) and CommandSurf (same). That’s about it folks. The rest can’t be trusted. Even a favorite out there: MVPSurf, went down. And ReindeerSurf (scam).
Sept. 11th (Monday)
- Have you noticed that today is the anniversary of the 9/11 hit on the twin towers. Have you also noticed that the twin towers spell the numeral eleven? Do you think this is an accident? Certainly it is a co-incidence, and well planned. Do I have more data? Sure I do. Will you want to read it/hear it? Certainly not.
In any case, it is a remarkable day! Those of you who have lost family and friends in that disaster? My heart goes out to you!
- You may have noticed that I was not all that big on Reindeersurf. And for some strange reason I avoided putting a spend in there. And for some odd reason, did not add them to my reviews page. Hmmmm... I wonder why. As you by now know they have folded. If you wish a refund (good luck) use this address. Sorry, I just don’t believe their story. Read the updates below. I think you are all being scammed by this one. Am a programmer, tech, and so on, and what they described? Not true. I have also verified, with owner of another surf programme that uses the same script that they were not down! So we have caught Admin of Reindeersurf lying!
- Admin of CommandSurf.com has just informed me that they managed to sign up a real Advertiser! Meaning, not one of us, but an outside Company! As you know, Companies that have been using traditional forms of advertising have been staying away from the surf world because most surfs tend to fail quickly, or are scams, or just cannot be trusted. So that is about to change. I cannot reveal to you which Company it is, as I don’t know myself, but I do know from which field they are from. I will let the Admin reveal that.
You can find my review of CommandSurf by clicking on the reviews button up top, right, then Ctrl-F on CommandSurf.
- ReindeerSurf: As I suspected, they are lying to you. What happened had nothing to do with the Pats Pro script nor site. If they were down while the script originator site was down, so would have commandsurf as they use the same script. But they were NOT down. And here is what I picked up from the CommandSurf BLOG:
“ReindeerSurf Theory,,,,
I have been thinking and with the recent forum posts made by reindeer surf admins, I think that they want to really prove themselves and stick around. (This all may be an elaborate scheme to build trust, so keep that in mind)
I also beleive that they think/know that the day will come when they need to shutdown and are preparing its members for that day. How, by letting its members know that if that day comes, they will do it honestly and respectfully.
Another part of my wacky theory is that I happen to believe that they want to please members while building a site that will last. So they will be making changes to the program soon, you heard that right. I THINK THEY WILL BE or are thinking about making changes to the ROI. Possibly lowering it depending on member input.
If they aren't considering changing their ROI, then that's wacky!
Well, enough of my crazy theory. I should get paid again next Monday. I will update you on it.
4newbies” - that was from Israel, the Admin of CommandSurf
and
“ReindeerSurf closed "for now"
Well, Reindeer surf closed. Sucks. I knew it was bound to happen, as is evidence from my prior post. Just not so soon. I was refunded yesterday, but still have a loss here. I am super surprised at that, after raising some trouble in their forum.
I will reserve my thoughts on the whole thing for now.
One thing I will say is this: PATS PRO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS!!!!
4newbies”
- Some guy named Richard Driver has set up a “Union” of surfs and charges three grand to have your surf site included in the union! Three grand? For DD? Why doesn’t the Admin of a surf site provide all the proof and be included in this Union? And that’s no guarantee that the surf site will survive! Just because it is part of this so-called union! Well, you can read more about it at the Commandsurf blog: blogs.commandsurf.com.
- Am doing some research on the following:
At first blush it looks like the old babydoubler.com and 8daycycler.com script variant. They give you 150% of your spend on the 12th day, upon expiry, right to your e-gold account. They primarily deal in RealEstate in Dubai and in the ForEx Market. But I need to do some further research on this one.
- dd thereclub.com
Started Sept. 3rd. Looks like they are using a cycler script. In fact, am sure of it. Well, no matter.
They say they are not an HYIP, but they are paying out fifty percent profit in 12 days. That's a High Yield Income Programme! So why claim not to be one?
Primarily in Dubai RealEstate and ForEx. That's what they tell us.
There are very few posts in the Forum they have set up, and most are from some guy with a handle of "Ponzi Nemesis", all bent on exposing ponzis! Well, he's got his work cut out for him, meaning that he's got a lot of work! Because most of these programmes are indeed ponzis!
There are not very many posts in their forum, mainly because they are only a few days old.
Registrant is, apparently, from Seattle WA, a Shaun Smith. Server is in Malaysia. Why? Why Malaysia? Puzzling. I have posted this DD in their forum.
A dedicated server (unnecessary as this is not a surf site requiring high CPU and bandwidth usage).
Well, I've only put in the minimum ($25 USD) and will do some more research on this one. If it survives another twelve days to my satisfaction I may even list it on the Reviews page.
Here is the e-mail response from Admin due to my query:
“Hey
Since we do not have an official product or service we are basically
working like a bank giving high interest. US Govt regulations prohibits
these kind of websites. So in order to avoid that problem we are hosting
offshore.
Shaun
”
thereclub.com resolves to 203.223.152.119
Domain Whois Results:
Registration Service Provided By: SHINJIRU TECHNOLOGY SDN. BHD.
Contact: +03.92846932
Domain Name: THERECLUB.COM
Registrant:
RE Club
Shaun Smith (shaun_smith456@yahoo.com)
2100 S 260th
St Seattle
Washington,98198
US
Tel. +206.3395894
Creation Date: 28-Aug-2006
Expiration Date: 28-Aug-2011
Domain servers in listed order:
ns2.thereclub.com
ns1.thereclub.com
Administrative Contact:
RE Club
Shaun Smith (shaun_smith456@yahoo.com)
2100 S 260th
St Seattle
Washington,98198
US
Tel. +206.3395894
- This just in from AceInvest (use the Reviews button up top, right, Ctrl-F on Aceinvest to find out more about this great concern):
“Dear Ace Member,
But if you aren’t....!
Yes, I know – you must have heard people telling you this hundreds of times before, so why should you believe me? Why am I different and should you believe that you will indeed become financially independent if you join our inve$tment programs? Join the Call and I will tell you why!
The September Trading
=====================
Our third Trading is on the way and today the first interest results will come available. To check your statement, please login to your www.aceinvest.biz member’s zone and click ‘Account Balance’ in the top of your screen
Conference Call
===============
We have decided to do one more public Conference Call about the VIP Program and AceInve$t because we are seriously closing these Programs for persons that are not part of the Ace Exclusive Circle. I want to give everybody one last chance to participate.
From October you can no longer join the Exclusive Circle – closed. finished, basta, finito, ende, over and fini!
Meeting with the Traders
========================
I am 100% convinced that we are in the right program, we are all heading for Financial Independency - I will tell you why I feel like this during another dazzling Conference Call!
Invite Your Friends, Relatives, Associates and Family Members
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Tell everybody you know, whom you also want to become Financially Independent, to be on the Conference Call or to listen to AceRadio – again, this will be my last public Conference Call about our Inve$ment Opportun1ties. They will be incredibly grateful that you did!
Exclusive Circle, Trusts and the VIP Program
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=============================
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Conference Call Schedule
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September 13 (14) September
02:00 PM - Los Angeles
05:00 PM - New York
22:00 GMT - London
07:00 AM - Sydney (Thursday)
To listen in the AceConference Room: http://www.aceconference.biz/AceSpace.exe
To listen to AceRadio:
http://services.acespace.biz/onair2.htm
Another Conference Call Next Week
=================================
Next week I will organize another Conference Call, this time about PayAce, X-Wire, AcE-mail, X-Scape, AceGlobal and our other core program
– AceSpace 3D with the Landrush/UBIs and Virtual Airports Auction.
During this Conference Call – public – I will give you background information and will answer your questions.
Regards,
Pedro Dispenza
Founder
www.acesupport.biz/support
Ps: If you have signed up for AceInve$t but did not order a Trading Unit yet – you have less than 3 weeks left to do so. Do you really wanna be saying in 8 months: “If I Had Only Known!”?! “
- GoldnDaily.com is STILL paying into my account and not my e-gold account. So those of you who are in there... just keep surfing and get paid to your internal account. Hopefully before they close they will pay out from there. But.. I have no indication of that. Thankfully am in some profit there. Am not even publishing my link anymore as I feel that this has turned into a full scam. What else can I conclude?
- Avoid like the plague! guaranty-profit.com Just avoid it. Getting that in the e-mail now. Way too hefty ROIs per day! Just collecting money I think.
Sept. 10th (Sunday)
- goldindeed.com: Stay away from this one. Admin admits it is a game... but at five times your spend per day? They will either just collect your money or it will fold within a few days. Way too risky. Nothing against the Admin, except that he or she is either ignorant in this market or... scammers outright! I don't know which and don't have the inclination to track them down. Simply stay away.
“It is a fast and easy way to increase your E-gold, You earn 500% of the balance AFTER 1 day!!!
08-Sep-2006 We Start!!! When the total withdrawal reaches 95% of the total deposit, the game will be over. We promise we will pay as much as possible” - NOT! If they were really cognizant, or honest, they would start off with something like ten to fifteen percent per day! Not five hundred! That’s simply ludicrous!
- I see from the Alexa traffic rankings that GlobalAds Pro is going up quite nicely! That bodes well for payouts! Haha! Am going to list them on the Reviews Page today and take out all my links in the BLOG! Go and look at the review right now! Or later. Or now. Or later?
- Wow, there was a backlash by someone that was hurt, in feelings, by Vincent’s DD report on him. Well, what I can say is this: Wow, that was quite a post from someone hurt very badly by Vincent’s post.
That does not disqualify Vincent, though. It just shows that someone was hurt by his DD. -- js
Vincent may or may not change his view... as a result.... but still, it was excellent due diligence and research. Of course, Vincent could have been apprised of the deeper goings on with that person! Who was? Were you? Nope. Was Vincent? Nope. So ... Vincent can’t be blamed... he revealed what he could find! And it was not in malice! You see? Am sure it was not. Some times these things happen! Due to a lack of more info! Or more communication from the accused, or researched! Before it becomes public!
So I would suggest, to Vincent, and other researchers, like myself, that maybe, just maybe, it would be a good idea to run the review by the one reviewed? I don’t know. Just suggesting it! Does not work all the time! Because most times the reviewed are indeed scammers. So what do you say?
So! From all this? I still support Vincent! And his excellent DD reports! Se the reviews page via the Reviews button up top, then Ctrl-F on Vincent.
- Ok, this is not good and I will be consulting on this with someone who really knows that script:
“Dear Members,
Something is going on with our website and we are going to tell you everything we know, despite not having a clear outline of what exactly took place or how to resolve it. While this information is released prematurely perhaps, we felt it was the only honest way to keep you informed and ask those who are familiar with the Pats Pro script to assist us, if at all possible.
We promised to be upfront with our community and so we are sharing this problem with you within a couple of hours of being alerted ourselves.
Yesterday our website experienced downtime which was eventually found to be associated with Roller Soft going down.
It seems that the authors of Pats Pro verify lisences each time a user accesses our site which is a tad overboard and ridiculous. What this also means is that if they experience downtime, their database is also unavailable and any site running their new script will be inaccessible, or rather will display an error message that says:
This copy of Pats Pro has not been activated.
When their site came back online, we couldn't access our admin panel without having to re-enter our original serial number.. Once we did this, the site was back online and all was well, until RollerSoft went down again, and we had to wait for their site to return in order to once again, add in the registration code and re-activate our site.
At first we were thrilled to find that all the information was entact, as we feared that by re-registering the script (which we forcibly had to do in order to get the site up again), it would wipe out all the information and our database being backed up only four days before would be missing a lot of important data.
Thankfully, this wasn't the case and everything seemed fine.
Today, when we logged into the admin panel we noticed that it displayed the following:
Days Running: 1 day
To explain to those unfamiliar with the script, this counter is displayed in admin and the script allows you to re-set it to 1 if you wish to re-start your program. We have never reset it as we had no reason to but upon logging in we noticed that it had not only been re-set but that we had over $140,000 in pending cashouts, which was over 4 times more than a couple hours before. It also showed us having received over $100,000 in upgrades which wasn't anywhere near the actual amount received in our e-gold account (nowhere near in fact, as we were growing slowly but surely)
We realized something was dreadfully wrong.
Our first assumption was that the counter being re-set was associated with all of these new cash out requests, meaning that because it was reset to being our first day running, everyone could request a cash out, even those who just did and were supposed to wait seven more days. This would mean the cashouts were legitimate ones, just ones that shouldn't have been allowed for a few more days.
However, upon reviewing a series of random accounts we realized that this wasn't the problem.
It seems that some exploit in the script allowed certain members to add unlimited funds to not only their account but other accounts as well.
Upon a review of our logs, we also noticed that there were several other IP addresses who had logged into our admin panel, other than our own.
We also were informed that the log that keeps the information involving possible cheaters (members with same IP, same email, same account information etc) has been emptied. Why this would be done is beyond our understanding at this time other than to prevent us from reviewing those with multiple accounts until it was too late and we had already completed payday tomorrow.
At this time we will be forced to prevent further upgrades until we have obtained more information on what has happened as we do not feel it is wise to allow upgrades without knowing what is in store for our program. We will also not be allowing additional cash-out requests nor will we be completing existing cash out requests until we have investigated the current requests and determined what actions to take.
We will keep you posted on every aspect of our investigation, and will not leave you hanging.
All we ask for is your support and patience during this situation and that if you are familiar with the script and feel you can lend your assistance, it would be greatly appreciated.
REQUEST: We ask that you refrain from posting this on forums and instead direct people to OUR forum so that we can discuss it with them individually, rather than having people upset and feeling pushed aside. Simply provide our forum link and they can read the updates themselves.
__________________
Sincerely,
Derek - Reindeer Surf”
Sept. 9th (Saturday)
- You may have noticed that 12by12daily Admin has put up a forum and has started to pay out the referral commissions. So this bodes very well for the longevity of this surf programme. Use the Reviews button up top, then Ctrl-F on 12by12 to read my review and perhaps join. This one is good for a number of cycles.
- I just saw a movie about King Arthur. Many lessons in there! Unlike most of the current movies that come out.
- Dear John,
This email is to inform everyone of the latest update on Ace Marketing Tools and it's owner, Doug Bartlett.
DO NOT SIGN UP for Ace Marketing Tools.
Please inform your organization of this as we do not want anyone signing up for Ace Marketing due to being uninformed.
Doug Bartlett has had a series of major heart attacks. Due to the heart attacks, Doug is having serious, ongoing physical challenges and will no longer be able to service clients of Ace Marketing Tools.
Our sincere condolences and prayers go out to him, his family, and friends!
Sincerely,
Affiliates Manager
Shop Right
- For 12by12daily? Please! Join FIRST (using the Reviews button up top then Ctrl-f on 12by12), and THEN go to the forum. Else if you go right to the forum, it seems, that if you join after that, you will be placed under someone else! And that’s not fair for those who have referred you! Myself included, and all of my members who have their own 9Planetreviews site.
- Again, about the fifty percent rule! It’s all in the feeling domain! Not in the head! Folks don’t like to see their funds being held back by some rule. So it is a gut and feeling reaction. Hence programmes that implement that rule, in whatever fashion, will fail. Simple as that. Most of these folks are gamblers in any case. And gamblers don’t like rules.
Sept. 8th (Friday)
- Well, have a nice day. I may do some updates today... or not.
- Well I have not yet done a review of MVP Surf but am getting good notes on it. Here is one that was sent by a reader of mine (Q):
“First of all, the site have just changed to its new look with a dedicated server
Upgrade has been raised from $2 000 to $ 4 000 (always been Admin plan to raise the level every couple of months)
You can request a cashout directly from the member area. No need to send via support ticket.
VM will be added (still on discussion though).
Members have a very strong community spirit ie. "Ebull Recovery fund plan". Check MMG forum for more information --> http://www.moneymakergroup.com/index.php?showtopic=72416 around page 280
All members are still happy getting paid for the last 4 months plus.
And Admin, Micheal, is still honest as usual, lol.
Featured on ASA video #20 --> http://www.asamonitor.com/video20.html
Seriously considered by Leo's Drunkonlife as stated on his September 6th blog
And fyi, many of its members reinvest 50% of their expired upgrade earning not only because of the 50/ 50 rule, but simply because of loyalty and they like this program so much. They even compound more than the 50%!
To read more about MVPSurf program and its 50/ 50 rule feature check --> http://mmlogan-mike.blogspot.com & http://rootboys.blogspot.com
”
- dd diamondtraders
This note was just sent to me from a reader:
"Hi John, I am wondering if you would be able to find a little bit of time to do some checking into a popular program called "Canadian Diamond Traders".
http://www.cdtforever.com/eclipse/cdt/resources/DTP/
http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=779
http://www.dreamteammoney.com/index.php?showtopic=1039
http://www.hyipdiscussion.com/specific-hyip-programs/13804-canadian-diamond-traders-cdt.html?highlight=Canadian+Diamond+Traders
What is your opinion about this program? I have been looking at this program myself, but after looking into it, I am now definitely NOT interested. But if my findings are correct, there are going to be a lot of innocent people get sucked into this and lose out big time.
As I said... "IF" my findings are correct....
I may me totally on the wrong track, but I think I found some possible links and similarities to "Treasure Traders International", "Women Empowering Women", "Arbonne International", "Departure Central", and "Allenture". And a couple of dodgy characters called Perer and Alan Kippax, (apparently, one of them may now be dead after an illegal street drag accident), and a woman called Velechovsky.
http://www.vcresearch.info/open/forums.asp?TopicId=8399&ForumId=73
http://www.vcresearch.info/open/forums.asp?TopicId=9057&ForumId=73
Gem Scan, the company that Canadian Diamond Traders use to appraise their diamonds appears to have a "not so good" reputation outside of Canada.
Also, maybe this is nothing other than my personal perception, but according to Google search, the location and appearance of the office of Canadian Diamond Traders is not what I would expect for an established diamond wholesaler. I have been unable to find any proof of their existence as established diamond wholesalers before they introduced this current "MLM" plan.
I may be totally wrong about this program. This is why I am asking you.
Regards
........
PS: I would prefer my ID not to be made public. Thanks."
I looked at them a while back and concluded they were a scam so I agree with the reader. Folks? Stay away from this one. If it sounds too good to be true? Usually that's the case.
- Another scam to avoid!
http://www.orhyip.com
200% After 1 Day
300% After 2 Days
AVOID!
- There is a lot of blah blah blah around the 50/50 rule out there in surf land! And in the various blogs. So what is my opinion? I don’t care. The moment a client sees the fifty/fifty rule, no matter how well it is explained, he or she balks! What does balks mean? It’s like physically moving back from something they have seen, and a feeling of “no goddamn way am I going to play in this” arises in their consciousness. Even seasoned surfers balk at it. I myself, although I understand it, balk at it. In whatever form it is presented. So instead of putting in the max, I put in the fifty percent, or forty-five, or whatever. It’s like being held hostage... because you want to take that pending amount out, but you can’t! Unless you fork up fifty percent of whatever. So you finally give in, with a grunt, a frown, a feeling of ... animosity! So you see? It’s bad for the industry! No matter how it is cloaked/presented. A man or woman should be able to trust a programme! Should be able to go with it based on trust, based on felt honesty, based on understanding of how much longer it will last! Or not! Not on being held hostage to continue the stupid programme! At least that’s how I think, and feel. The same stupid rule was introduced into the cycler industry. Sure it made cyclers last a while longer! But in the end, the only folks that profited were the Admin!
You can’t appeal to reason, successfully, when feeling is involved! Try all you like. All kinds of explanations of how it works! But you are not appealing to their feelings! And the predominant feeling is... am trapped! I have to put in that fifty percent! Shit! Do you see?
And with respect to cyclers? Some folks are trying to start them up again! I am against it! Listen closely, Admin! Having researched and reported on Cyclers for over a year at 1worlddoublers.com I am against any such re-start! They are more dangerous than HYIPs and Surfs! They fold MUCH MORE QUICKLY! They are subject to hit and runs much more so than HYIPs and surfs. I would advise folks to STAY the HECK away from them! Admins who are about to launch such? Take heed of what I’ve just said.
- Admin of CommandSurf.com, Israel, has, in his Skype conversation with me tonight revealed that he has signed up a Major Advertiser! One of the real ones! Not just you and I, but a major advertiser! Cool! But he would not tell me who they are. Oh well.
As well, cashbacksquad.com is coming along nicely. And will be launched soon! Here is the email on that:
“New things coming from CommandCorps
Well, I am pleased to see some of our plans are nearing finalization. We have some good things coming soon.
For one, we have a new cash back site coming. It is not surfing related and has nothing to do with this industry, but will benefit members of the surf world tremendously. The site is CashBackSquad.com. Simply put, it's a place where you can do all of your online shopping for all name brands, at a discounted rate. The beauty of it is that we will give you cash back for every order you place through the site. Plus you can choose to have us donate a percentage to any charity. So not only do you potentially get a discount for shopping through our site, we will pay you back to do it.
The second major project we have been working on is getting our Surf script customized to offer a few unique improvements. These improvements, I feel are going to allow us as an advertising company to pursue major advertisers with a real results driven product. While our idea isn't new to advertising, it is new to the surf world. One of the major changes to our script will be our new Bullseye Targeting feature. This will allow advertisers to choose from amongst several demographics and target their ads. It will also allow members to choose what types of ads they want to view. This allows for surfing to have a purpose outside of members wanting to make a quick buck. Major advertisers will now see the value of surf advertising.
We will also be adding some more options for advertising that will have better results for advertisers. Premium ads will be available. We will also be switching from an auto surf to a hybrid surf. Part manual, part auto.
Some things such as raffles and contest and prizes will be offered as well.
So we have been working on this for some time and come September, it shall all be ready.”
September 7th (Thursday)
- Vincent’s site is back up! All due to a misunderstanding! Here is Vincent’s note about that:
“If you tried accessing the Autosurf Guide website over
the past 2 hours, you would've seen the dreaded hosting
account suspended screen.
The reason?
A former subscriber emailed me because he hasn't been
able to access the website from his home but can do so
from his workplace... which I suspect is local ISP problem.
So today I forwarded the email to my webhost, Hostgator,
to try and find a solution, logged off to learn some Flash,
only to come back in 2 hours to find out in dismay that my
hosting account has been suspended.
And my mailbox is bursting with emails from members...
Turns out that I've been banned because Hostgator
doesn't allow any autosurf website (despite this not
being in their T&Cs).
But after some pleading (I really don't fancy moving host
ever again after the last time), I can now breathe a sigh of
relief... Autosurf Guide is back.
My salvaging argument? I was actually running a website
that warns against autosurfs (well the majority of them
anyway). :)
Warmest regards
Vincent”
You can access Vincent’s excellent reports by clicking on the Reviews button up top, then Ctrl-F on Vincent.
It is well worth while! Even better than my DD reports! I guarantee you! If you’re serious, of course.
- I am going to review MVP Surf tonight or tomorrow morning. Am pretty darn sure that I will list this one! Even on the Reviews page! So here is my link: (see the Reviews page and Ctrl-F on MVPsurf).
- I wish to state this again: stay away from 15biz.org. It’s a scam and now Admin is sending out solicitations for other scams: Goldwilling.org. So stay away from both.
- Delete any e-mails seeming to come from e-Bullion about a crypto-card. If you hover your mouse over the link in the e-mail you will see that e-Bullion is misspelled as e-Buiilion, some may overlook that and get robbed.
- If you are in the USA:
“JURY DUTY SCAM:
This has been verified on Snopes.com and by the FBI (links included below) Please pass this on to everyone in your email address book. It is spreading fast so be prepared should you get this call. Most of us take those summons for jury duty seriously, but enough people skip out on their civic duty, that a new and ominous kind of scam has surfaced.
Fall for it and your identity could be stolen, reports CBS. In this con, someone calls pretending to be a court official who threateningly says a warrant has been issued for your arrest because you didn't show up for jury duty. The caller claims to be a jury coordinator. I f you protest that you never received a summons for jury duty, the scammer asks you for your Social Security number and date of birth so he or she can verify the information and cancel the arrest warrant. Sometimes they even ask for credit card numbers. Give out any of this information and bingo! Your identity just got stolen.
The scam has been reported so far in 11 states, including Oklahoma, Illinois, and Colorado. This (scam) is particularly insidious because they use intimidation over the phone to try to bully people into giving information by pretending they're with the court system. The FBI and the federal court system have issued nationwide alerts on their web
sites, warning consumers about the fraud.
Check it out here:
http://www.snopes.com/crime/fraud/juryduty.asp
http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel05/092805.htm “
- Pull out of BigDaddysurf if you have not already! Warning!
- I can’t test out that feature in egold, to accept spends from limited accounts. I set up a new account and was not able to turn that feature on. I can’t chance it on a good account. And e-gold have not responded yet to my query on that. So I may have to chance surfing GoldnDaily again tonight and have that put into my balance, yet again. What is taking these folks to fix this? I can only conclude that it is a winding down scam at this point. What else are we to think!? I would NOT spend in there right now. They are still managing to stay at a 30K or so balance! So I wish they would either fix it or get on with the running!
Ok, am breaking down. I’ve taken one of my e-gold accounts and changed the status to accept payments from blocked accounts and changed the payout account to that one at Goldndaily.com! Now am surfing.... Cross your fingers! Result: It did not work! So the scam continues. I can’t conclude anything else right now but that it has now turned into a scam! At least that is my own observation and opinion. Yet there are others reporting that they have been paid! Yeah right! The ones with a few bucks! So those of us over a hundred are getting shafted. Very nice tactic by Admin! Deplorable! (Look it up.)
Code: if payout > 10 donotpay=1; else pay=1;
And yet? Some of us over that 100 or 10 dollar payout range are the ones who have made this programme so successful! So the Admin bites the hand that feeds him! Or her. Or has fed him or her. Oh well, these Admin will get their just deserts. The fruit is about to ripen. It’s not up to me. There are higher powers.
- I can’t believe it! Either Vincent did not notice that his account has expired or the hackers are after him due to his excellent DD! His website is now suspended! I really don’t believe he forgot to pay! Must be the work of some folks that DO NOT like what he is revealing! In case it comes back up, use the Reviews button up top and Ctrl-F on Vincent. Am sure Vincent will get back up pretty soon with another hosting provider! Not to worry. OK! He’s back up (a few hours later.) It’s back up! See the report up top!
- It does look like 12by12daily.net is stabalizing! Am very impressed! I do recommend signups and deposits at this time. Not too large... but.. looks good! Click on the Reviews button up top, right, then Ctrl-F on 12by12.
- I want you to know.. that I used to have Hep B! Yes indeed. Used to! I tried all the herbal remedies and so on but none seemed to help. Then I got a template, in Gold, against Hep B.. and that’s a long story which I will tell if you wish me to. But after wearing it for three months or so? I was cured! And my lab reports prove it! So don’t ignore the above report!
Further... I have been having dreams of disasters almost daily! Is this a warning or what?
September 6th (Wednesday)
It looks to me like 12by12daily may be stabilizing! And that’s good news! Makes me feel more comfortable! I may just put some MAJOR bucks in there in the next few days! If you have not signed up there? Click on the Reviews button up top, right, and do a Ctrl-F on 12by12.
- Read the Review for this one below (Sept. 5th). I think we’ve found a good one! With compounding! And looks like this one will last long enough for you to get your money out. You can use my iCalculator to see how much you will earn with compounding. So key in your principal, 150 for the investment periods, 1.8 for the interest and click on Compounding.
- One of my readers reports that he surfed GoldnDaily today and got paid without trouble and without using another e-gold account of his. Am trying myself right now: damn! Surfed, but received an email saying that e-gold timed out, so balance was added to my available cash and I can use that to upgrade or will get paid out, I guess at the end of the month? Another reader reported the same thing! And speculated that this is a tactic the Admin is using not to pay! She could be right! If you experience this as well, send me a note. I did check e-gold and it was working fine before I surfed!
Well here may be an explanation.... they contracted a virus. Not sure I believe that... but let’s hope it is correct:
“Please bare with us as we are working on eliminating the virus, there will be some flaws as we do this I ASSURE you all payments will be corrected as soon as we have completed the security upgrade we are now installing. All accounts where your cash was put into your account will be cashed out at Egold as soon as we are done. We are insuring the long and lasting ogf Goldndaily.com Thanks To All Admin”
Isn’t it funny though that most of these programs, just before they die, suddenly develop one technical issue or another around payments? How could these guys have a virus in the script? Unless the script is really a Windows-based program that interfaces with e-gold for the payouts and this virus is affecting that program? Sounds like a custom job to me! And an inside job to boot! So... Admin? Show me the money! Then I’ll change my tune!
- Shopright (the folks that give you a share in the Oil Drilling business with 85% accuracy! Check it out using the Reviews Button up top and then Ctrl-F on Shop Right) has a recruiting call tonight for your benefit. Simply either threeway in your prospect or have your prospect call the number. It is well worth the money to make the call! They can also use the link below to participate for free.
“Dear John,
TONIGHT..........All Central Times.
7:00 p.m. Our new recruiting call.
7:30 p.m. Meeting Concerning Doug Bartlet
8:00 p.m. Scott Olson Marketing/Training Call.
Conf. Call #...1-641-793-7500 pin 736913#
Oversea Reps:
http://kiosk.learn2build.org/cooltalk.exe
Success Always,
Alex Jakubowski
Sincerely,
Affiliates Manager
Shop Right”
- Am publishing a review of Commandsurf.com today, before 6 PM EST. Looks good! Hold off on spends until I do some more research.
dd commandsurf.com
I like this one as it is one of the more stable ones. 2% profit for 75 days. Which allows them to be not only a ponzi, but to also invest elsewhere and get some other money coming in.
Referral comms are at 5%. That's nice.
Cashouts are on the 1st and 16th of the month.
Yes, the following lingo is military, but am sure most of you can understand it:
"Each enlistee will start off in CommandSurf on a voluntary basis. From this juncture, there are two steps, remain in service on a voluntary basis (Reservist) or purchase advertising packs (Active Duty). We like to think of Active Duty here at CommandSurf as self promotion. When you promote yourself from Reservist to Active Duty you do so by purchasing advertising packs. Each advertising pack is $5. The minimum amount necessary for promotion is 1 Ammo Pack. The maximum amount of Ammo Packs available for promotion is 1000. As part of your active duty, you are required to perform reconnaissance on a minimum of 25 websites a day. Soldiers will be paid for doing so at a rate of 2% of your total Ammo Package for a total of 75 days. Soldiers may request their service checks on a semimonthly basis occurring on the 1st day and the 16th day of each calendar month. At the end of the 75 days, members will automatically be returned to Reserve Status, at which point you can promote yourself again if you so choose."
I've spoken with Israel (Admin, over skype) a few times now and am fairly sure that he is an honest admin. He is trying to do what others have failed to do, and that is to get the big Advertising Companies (not us little folk) to see that the surf industry is a legitimate and viable vehicle for big-time advertising. Right now he says that he is working on a deal with a few of these. Let's hope he is successful.
Commandsurf is just one of the programmes he runs under the Command moniker.
Here is a comment from Israel about himself and what he is doing:
"http://www.commandcorps.com
Okay, where do I start? My name is Israel. I used to be a member of 12dp in Dec. Started blogging as 4newbies around that time. Been in this game since dec 2005. So has my partner Matt. We got tired of all the BS after phoenix surf went down. Decided to start our own surf,with a low %, because high % are inevitably going to fail unless you get reasonable income streams, which we have started building.
Commandsurf was the first site we started on APril 7th, 2006. It's been 4 months of paying out. 2% for 75 days, 5% ref commision. cashout 1st and 16th.
We bought trafficmeltdown from the previous owner. He scammed his members and ourselves. We are in the process of refunding members over $3500 that he stole. We renamed it to http://www.commandbravo.com. 4% for 30 days. 2% ref comission. Cashout the 15th and 30th/31st.
we also have http://www.commandprofits.com. An hyip type site.
Along with that we have commandblogs.com. A few bloggers giving opinions and the such.
Commandforum.com is our network forum.
Commmandcorps.com is our network site.
we have some income streams.
Our dedicated server was checked out by Mrs. Vee (a well known personality in this arena).
Please feel free to email me and ask me anything.
We are also the first admin to be verified on maximummonitor.com
I don't have too much to hide. Some things I would rather keep private, but most things I am fine with telling you.
Thx
Israel"
My command link: http://www.commandsurf.com/?ref=611
Now for some DD:
They are using the PATS Pro script, which is fine. Despite what has been reported, it is a secure script.
Behind a proxy for privacy reasons, at godaddy.com. Hosted at ThePlanet, a popular hosting site in Dallas Texas.
commandsurf.com resolves to 69.93.247.200
On a dedicated server. All the sites on that server belong to Israel and Matt.
Search Results for 69.93.247.200 [reverse DNS - 69.93.247.200.megabyteservers.com]
7 Results for 69.93.247.200
1. commandblogs.com
2. commandbravo.com
3. commandcasino.com
4. commandcorps.com
5. commandhyip.com
6. commandprofits.com
7. commandsurf.com
Israel, in a conversation with me on skype, said that commandsurf is not a ponzi. You see, their ROIs are low enough to sustain with outside sources. Some of those sources you can see by examining the above websites.
He did admit, though, that in the event that they had to move some money, due to some emergency, then yes, they would use member money, but that has not happened.
He also indicated that they have a "pretty nice sized reserve". As to the outside sources? They are into some that require non-disclosure, or else! Hmmmm... ok.
They have now been around 5 months, always paying. Israel is "super confident" that they will last into the next year. He also indicates that the membership is rather low as compared to the big surfs, but that's good because they are experiencing steady growth, not sudden growth, which has caused many a surf to shut down prematurely.
He is using the PATS Pro script, so here is what my research has revealed about it: PATS Pro is one of the best out there. Does not need to be leased, unlike the one used by Midas-surf. That one needs to be leased and the site has to be hosted by the person who wrote the script. And.... you never know! Will the guy who wrote that one turn on you, as an Admin???? Oh, oh, that's a potential security hole for all those that use the same script as used at Midas-Surf.
The PATS Pro script is much more secure. The security hole that was exploited a while back was a fluke, an open backup folder (all the other sites, like 15hitsdaily, did not change their passwords often enough and so the hacker got the Admin password, but I have found out that Israel always changed passwords often and the hacker never got the right Admin password, so commandsurf was safe from that hack attempt). That hole has been shut. And the touring images are meant to prevent hackers from taking the server down via multiple and simultaneous logons.
So there you have it. If I ever launch a surf site of my own, I will use the PATS Pro script (Israel has had many changes made to it at a significant cost) from Israel.
I must re-emphasize: this site is MOST likely to survive because it is a low ROI site and has an honest Admin! That gives Admin time to get outside money to pay folks out. High ROI sites can't do this! So they remain pure ponzis and at some point (below two months usually) they fold!
New stuff in the works: Israel is setting up a hosting service as well! Once he has it ready I will post the info! Another source of income! They also offer web design! And re-sell the PATS Pro Script with many own changes.
- For some strange reason, DragonAutosurf Admin is letting folks cashout today for as much as ten cents! The forty dollar min will be reinstated tonight at midnight, of course no indication of time zone. So best you hurry!
- Re GlobalAdsPro... mine expired today and then I upgraded by the 45% requirement. Well, I was a bit skittish as I did not know if I would qualify for the withdrawal. So I sent Trish a note and she just replied and said: YEP. Thanks Trish!
September 5th (Tuesday)
- It’s back to work! For most of you. And myself at home.
- Commandsurf! Yes. Tomorrow, fairly sure! Look for it!
- Well I got 5% at surf.anygold.net, yesterday and today. You get paid five levels deep, unlike other surfs.
- 15biz.org: 16 hours after receiving an e-mail that I got paid at e-gold, I have not been paid! I’ll let it go until 24 hours have passed and then blow the whistle. For now I would be cautious about putting any kind of money in there. Seems to be an obvious scam. If you have received money from them right into your e-gold account, then send me a note.
I’ve noticed that the guy has raised the number of actives deadline by 25 (for the high percent deal). Am sure to collect more money. It’s feeling more and more like a scam, as bad as egoldspinner2.
- I have no choice but to blow the whistle on 15biz.org as the Admin is non-responsive to my overtures. It’s a downright scam!
- GoldnDaily.com, on the other hand, sent me my money this morning, right after I surfed my 12 pages! On the other hand, they have just over 30K left in reserves. How long will they last? Well, for the last three or four days the reserves have remained steady at about $30K while incoming and outgoing have climbed. So they are merely moving up the scale right now. So I’d say that they’re good for another 7-8 days, maybe. Maybe more, if they simply continue to slide up the scale, so to speak. But if the reserves start getting lower and lower each day? 4 days tops. I’d say right now...... 8 days and they’re done! So plan accordingly. I’ll update my guesstimate every day.
Also, this new promo re getting free upgrades? I dont’ think so! It’s a tactic to keep the programme going! Free referrals? From where are they going to get them? Paid signups? What? I think the end is near! Sorry that I have to say this... but it’s fairly clear. Maybe we SHOULD save the programme? I’ve not seen one like it. Up to you!
- http://www.ceo-profitcycles.com/ I think this one has stalled already. Forget about it.
- This World is a horrific place. We are thrown into it. What is going to matter is how we respond.
- dd fidelityinvestmentgroup
IP Address: 70.87.141.178
IP Location: United States - Texas - Dallas - Theplanet.com Internet Services Inc
Blacklist Status: Clear
SSL Cert: No valid SSL on this Host
Administrat:
name-- DNS MANAGER
org-- ABSOLUTEE CORP. LTD.
country-- CN
province-- Hongkong
city-- Hongkong
address-- FLAT/RM B 8/F CHONG MING BUILDING 72 CHEUNG SHA WAN RD KL
postalcode-- 999077
telephone-- +00.85223192933
Run out of Hong Kong. Well, a lot of scams are. They are on a dedicated server. WHY? This is not an autosurf, so the bandwidth requirements are very small.
The site makes a lot of claims. Most of their investments are supposedly in Forex usuing major brokers (they tossed out a few names). The rest goes into the black market trade, rubber, and so on. They only started in early August, claim that they have already taken in near a million, paid out near half that, and do you believe they could have established those relationships (black markets in various Countries) and so short a time? Or did they just launch their website in early August?
I don't know what the case is. They claim that it is not a game, hence not a ponzi. Yet the payouts vs deposits shows a ponzi-like behavior (there is no way you can earn so much money in ForEx in so short a time). So I don't believe them.
In any case, I think it's too late for this one. They're at 50% and that should climb in the next few days (the opening of their own Forum may keep it alive a bit longer). Which means you may not have much time to even recover your principal.
Now we also know that most of these are ponzis. I just don't like the ones that claim they are not and make a lot of hoopla and yelling about them not being a game, when they are.
Then those that are pure scams, that don't pay you at all... now those ... what can I say?
Finally, if I had learned about this one around the time of opening? I would have gone in there and would have recommended it for about one round. Or two. Right now it is a bit too late as most of these don't last past a month, some to 45 days... and that's rare.
js
- It seems that GoldnDaily’s e-gold account has had a value limit placed on it. Now usually the Admin can have that unblocked by providing e-gold with sufficient verification data (as to who they are), or if they have false data on the e-gold account then Admin usually sets up another e-gold account and continues business. Now here is another opinion I found on a forum:
“Payouts can still be done from a blocked account. However, to get paid from a blocked account you have to have your settings set to "accept" payments from blocked accounts on your egold user settings. This explains why some have reported that they have been paid. They have their settings set to receive payments from a blocked accont. Other don't have it set to "accept" so they are not getting paid.
Why does an e-gold account get blocked? Usually because some idiot calls in and complains to e-gold that he did not get paid from that account and e-gold blocks it from recieving funds. Most likely the idiot didn't get paid because he did not have his GnD account set properly to have funds paid out. It only takes one moron to ruin everything. Fortunately the account can be unblocked with a call into e-gold by admin and some members. Or admin can transfer funds to an account that is not blocked and continue.”
Yet I have heard that if you change that setting? You are suspect! So it’s up to you! I myself will try to make a spend tomorrow and see if they have set up a new account or if it is the old account and value-limited. If it is a new account, hurray, I will cancel the spend, surf, and get paid. If it is still the old account, I may consider changing that setting, surfing... and see what happens. But I suspect it’s the end! I did get my five hundred out.. and the Admin was clever not to allow w/d of ref commissions for a month! So we had to upgrade from those, as no one is sure that they would have lasted a month! That way the Admin keeps more funds in the pool! Very nice, for the life of the programme, or the Admin. Hopefully both!
OK, so what to do about a possible suspension of your e-gold account if you change that setting (to accept spends from blocked accounts?). Here is my recommendation:
Yep, it's a toughie! I won't risk my own account... although... set up a second account, like you should have already, and move MOST of the funds to that. Then try it! What have you got to lose! I will do the same tomorrow! But... I don't want to lose that account, so I will set up a third account and see if I can change the pay options to that third one... it will be a throwaway! And if I receive the funds into that account? Well, heck, keep it around!
To see more of the BLOG click on the links below, start with -6.
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