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Nov. 9th (Thursday)
- I did not win last night’s lottery, but that’s because am to win Friday nights lottery! So there.
- Vincent’s Referral Magnet course is about to launch!
“Things are moving pretty fast now with The Referral Magnet course.
I just wanted to give you a quick update.
First off, I now have an official launch time and date:
**Thursday, 9 November 2006 at 6 pm CST (Central Standard Time)**
As I write this, it's just a little under 24 hours away! (in just under two hours now)
It's been a long road, and I still have a few details to sort out,
but it's going to be a huge relief to get this launched and into my
readers' hands.
In the meantime, you can watch this page as we get closer:
http://www.thereferralmagnet.com
It should automatically redirect you to the order page once I start
taking orders. I accept Egold only, so make sure you have some in
reserve (hint: it's less than $100).
On another note, some people are worried that the tactics are too
hard to understand and will only work for experienced autosurfers/
HYIP players with blogs and monitors. I have addressed this concern
here:
http://www.thereferralmagnet.com/Concern-2.html
And if you haven't seen the preview trailer yet, here it is:
http://www.thereferralmagnet.com/Sneak-Preview.html
Warmest regards
Vincent”
- An update from Martin, an Admin at 12by12daily.net:
“I've noticed a few posts in the forum explaining about unusual records in the account history, records showing that payments have been made when thy haven't etc.
I've only just noticed this now and I have a feeling it's only happened to a few accounts. Dave will be sleeping for a few more hours but as soon as he wakes up I'll alert him immediately to this so that he can get it sorted out or give us an update.
Thank you 'nothing' for keeping me informed about this. As soon as Dave's awake I'll make it my top priority to see whats happened.
I don't think this is a big problem but I don't like when people get worried about it.
Just for the next few hours. If you have a problem concerning ...
1) Upgrades not credited
2) Unusual information shown in your account history
3) Payments not going to pending
UPDATED: Please ignore the 'MASS PAY' entry into your history. You'll see that you haven't been paid for that. I have a feeling it might be something the programmers done / is trying to do to fix the incorrect cash balances.
... please send an email to fordave@truepot.com with your account number and a description of the problem. please paste any text you see on your account pages if it will help. As soon as we are awake tomorrow I'll then have an organized list of important messages I can pass on to Dave so that we can prioritize getting this sorted out if it's causing any problems. THE ABOVE ADVICE IS WRONG. DO NOT E-MAIL DAVID. THEY ARE AWARE OF THE PROBLEM AND ARE FIXING IT.
Regards
Martin”
- Well now I hear that Charis Johnson may be running an HYIP instead of an autosurf. I find that hard to believe! Especially after her so-called conversion after being busted. Did she convert back? Unlikely.
- Vincent covers concern #2 below for his Referral Magnet Course:
“This update covers Concern #2 about The Referral Magnet system.
I've already addressed Concern #1 (that I'm going to let all the secrets out of the bag, and they will stop working) at this link.
Concern
The course is too difficult to understand and will only work for experienced autosurf/ HYIP players, or those with blogs or monitors.
Background
When I released the definitive "Leaked Report" one week ago, many people saw the greyed-out Table Of Contents. I got all kinds of email from readers worried that they won't be able to understand the techniques, or that it'll work only for veterans with blogs and monitors.
Answer
While the concern is understandable, this is clearly one of those "no worries" situations. This course is easy to grasp, and will be immediately useful to beginners and high-yield program veterans alike.
I'll give you an example. You may recall that I recruited a few beta testers for The Referral Magnet system, but later disbanded them due to an internal leak.
And you know that recently I've run a 4-day referral contest as part of the prelaunch phase.
Guess what, at the final count, one beta tester actually beat quite a few well-known bloggers to the number 6 spot.
She'd only recruited 4 referrals in her 10 months of autosurfing, but by using just the one technique that I showed her through a couple of video tutorials, she managed to recruit 16 referrals in under 4 days. All without having a website of her own and without spamming.
Bottom Line
While The Referral Magnet course is very comprehensive, it's also very easy to understand, and will work for veterans and beginners alike.”
- Thanks to Matt for this review of 13dailypro!
Hey JS,
I saw your little blurb on 13dailypro, and thought I should clarify. This
is the same 13dp that WAS offering 143% over 11 days and paying out on the
12th day. This was before their deminse in July of this year. Since then
they changed their plans to 130% over 10 days and take a full week to pay
out or 17days total. That equals roughly 1.76% a day, compared to
12by12daily at 2.31%. They also started their revised program before
12by12daily and were doing just fine with out them. The last thing is that
they have paid out almost 180k! in refunds and you can see the refund list
here http://www.old.13dailypro.net/fullstats.php
I don't know if they are better or worse than 12by12daily, just thought you
and your readers should at least have the best info out there on them.
-Matt
I have also received a phone call from a reader that also praises the Admin of 13dp! Seems that the Admin even offered money to get back in profit! And it turned out that he did. So am hearing good things about the admin of 13dailypro!
Nov. 8th (Wednesday)
- Woops. I woke up this morning.
- One of my readers says that Charis Johnson has started an autosurf. More on that later.
- I will win the Lottery tonight, or Saturday night.
- More updates for you later on tonight.... right now am watching Mission Impossible III.
- Well..... Mission Impossible III was worth watching! Action almost throughout! And a love story.
- Empowerism Update:
“I just got a snail mail from Empowerism concerning their RSVP and MVP programmes (cyclers).
Basically, in order to maintain your cycler positions you must be a paid member by the close of November! Else your positions will be deleted.
10% of the credit card orders are declined each month. When you log in you will notice if yours was one of them! Then you're given a chance to pay and your RSVP and MVP shares will stay in place.
Also be careful of autodeduct from commissions. If in one month you do not have enough commissions to cover your 19.95 fee... you will be marked as a free member and lose your RSVP and MVP shares. So go and set up your account for auto-renewal.
At least log in on the fourth Saturday of each month to make sure your account is active!
Starting December, 2006, a leads purchase equivalent to one percent of your total RSVP order value must e made before the end of the month. This does not affect those who do not have any RSVP or MVP units.
Basically, they are doing this to decrease the cycle time in their two cyclers, and to remove existing cycled money from the system.
Well, by now you have received their letter, if you have RSVP and MVP shares. Just read it carefully. I myself will have to purchase leads as I have quite a bit in RSVP.
There is more to the letter, but overall, it's a positive step for those who have RSVP and MVP shares!
js”
- dd 13dailypro.net
Well see, that's the danger there. If these guys are not even close to 12by12 in terms of membership... they will die. For one, because they can't invest in 12by12 as they pay out more than 12by12. So that's a very risky move on their part. If I were to launch an autosurf now, I'd offer less than 12by12, invest in 12by12, and thereby survive! So what do these guys really have? So I have zero confidence in them at this point. Besides, 13dailypro.net failed once before. What makes any of us think that they will succeed a second time around? Likely they will fail.
So am not willing to go into that one. Go for it if you wish. But am not risking my money in that one. I will stick by 12by12daily for the next few months. (Click on the Reviews button up top, right, then Ctrl-f on 12by12 to read my review of them).
Some may disagree with my assessment of this one. This surf seems to be picking up new clients and good momentum. But... I don’t trust it enough to put my 12by12daily money into this one! You see? The decision is quite easy! I am 100% certain of 12by12daily.net, and am 70% certain of 13Dailypro.net. So where am I going to put my money???? This is NOT a case of spread your money around more egg nests or baskets! Given that MOST of the surfs invest in 12by12daily, why would you invest in them? Rather than in what they are investing in? So this may not be true of 13dailypro... but that, by itself, tells me that they are a far greater risk than 12by12daily.net!
js
- Please pay attention to Derek's announcement below!
"If you haven't joined HC to get in a spot where you will get some of
my contacts under you that you can enroll/introduce to Follow Our
Lead, tonight is your last chance to get a really good spot.
Also, last chance to get in the hotconference ad co-op would be by
noon tomorrow. It is $10 per share.
Here is the link to join Hot Conference UNLESS I am not the one who
invited you this group. If I am not your enroller/inviter, contact me
for the correct link to give you:
http://www.hotconference.com/members/micronuts/onedollar.php (js link)
If you want in the co-op, email me by tomorrow for the details.
Derek" js: his email addy is derekrq at yahoo.com, of course replace
the blankatblank with @.
- One more announcement by AceInvest: (use the Reviews button up top to find my review of them)
“Subject: Ace Exclusive Private Conference Call!
======================================
Dear Members,
You can look forward to a dazzling Conference Call tomorrow!!
I have really interesting stuff to share with you and not only about
the “Ace Exclusive Circle” website!
Here is the Conference Schedule:
================================
First Call:
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Los Angeles : Thu, 01:00 PM
New York : Thu, 04:00 PM
London : Thu, 09:00 PM
Sydney : Fri, 08:00 AM - Dst
Second Call:
------------
Los Angeles : Thu, 06:00 PM
New York : Thu, 09:00 PM
London : Fri, 02:00 AM
Sydney : Fri, 08:00 AM - Dst
Access to the Calls
===================
Please login the Conference Room by clicking this link: http://www.aceconference.biz/ExclusiveCircle.exe
The password to enter the Conference Room is: aec2006
If you prefer to listen to AceRadio, please follow this link: http://services.acespace.biz/ExclusiveCircelRadio.htm
Activate Your AcE-Mail Account
==============================
We will for the last time send out this broadcast to both your regular
e-mail address and your AcE-Mail address. If you have not activated
your AcE-Mail address, and you do not how to do this, please contact
our Support Desk at www.acesupport.biz/support , and select the AcE-Mail
department.
Summary and Recording
=====================
Soon after the Conference Call we will publish the Summary on the Ace
Excusive Circle information board and the link to a live recording of
the 2 calls will be sent to your AcE-Mail address.
Dormant Members
===============
We still have close to 2,000 Members that have yet to activate their
AcE-Mail email account. It is unclear to us if these members do not
get or read our updates, or if they are no longer interested.
Whatever the reason, we will not be able to support ‘dormant’ Members,
our Club is too serious! Please check with your Team Members and
Sponsor if they have activated their AcE-Mail Email Account, and if
they didn’t you can tell them to contact our Support Desk at
www.acesupport.biz/support , and select the AcE-Mail department.
Please understand that this is in your own favor, your Team Members
could be investing tons of money in the (near) future and you are
getting a 10% Commission!
I am looking forward to talk to you – see you soon!
Best Regards,
Pedro Dispenza
www.acesupport.biz/support
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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”
- You know? Am going to stay out of the politics game and commenting on it. Why? Well, they are all just having their fun, in this life! So what? Life is but a dream! But most of you, and I, seem to forget that detail.
- Found this:
A cannibal was walking through the jungle one day
and came upon a cannibal restaurant. Being hungry,
he sat down and looked over the menu...
Broiled Missionary.... $10.00
Fried Explorer........... $15.00
Baked Politician...... $100.00
The cannibal called the cook over and asked, "Why
such a high price for the politician?"
The cook replied, "Have you ever tried to clean one?"
- Just remember. You are projecting your hidden thoughts and fears outward. Hence you see a world of conflict. Because your own thoughts and mind... are conflicted. Hard to swallow. I know. It’s OK. Just continue to notice that.
Nov. 7th (Tuesday)
Just look at the above chart for 12by12daily.net (use Reviews button up top to find a review of it)! They are growing steadily upwards and have almost reached their initial peak when they first opened! And.... I just got paid! So am upgrading yet again! Time to empty my e-gold account!
- Another reminder not to invest in besttrader.sitesled.com. You can search for a review of it on this page.
- DollarMonster Admin sent out a note claiming yesterday was a big day for upgrades. But... cycle time remains at 64 days (not 16, but 64). I think some folks don’t realize, at first glance, what the true cycle time is now. Am no longer recommending this one. If you did not get your init spend out, then you probably won’t.
The real red flag went up with the admin failed to open up a second e-gold account and continue business when his main e-gold account was limited by e-gold. I still don’t understand why he did not open up a second account immediately. That was the obvious thing to do. Maybe he was way too much of a novice at this game than we all gave him credit for. Oh well. Let’s move on. And no, it’s not us bloggers that killed the programme. The Admin did that all by himself.
- Here is a clever tactic right now being used by Marketers to get $197 or more out of your wallet:
First they send you an e-mail telling you about something crazy that some guy (Marketer) is doing and usually they will entice you by saying that they will even pay you to sign up!
Then you go to a “squeeze” page (very appropriate), and the thing is fu***ing 300 pages long full of testimonies and such. So you go for the offer (say you pay only one buck and they give you back two bucks or some such variant). Well you agree to it by entering your first name and primary email address (so now they have you in their list) and take you to another 800 page sales letter that lists thousands of dollars of e-books galore, lots of testimonies, stuff to listen to, even stuff to watch, then finally you get to the bottom of that 800 page page, and see that only for today, yes today, for a measly $197 you can by a load of crap. Oops. Sorry, some of the info is indeed useful. But what am revealing to you is a sales strategy. That’s how these Marketers not only build their list (and will inundate you not only with the x days course, but with future offers), but also get you to buy pretty well useless stuff for $97, $197 or more. And all they are risking is one buck! Because you pay them one buck, they pay you two bucks, they stand to lose one buck. Well, that’s an example. But they all keep it low. Some merely offer you a Marketing course for free. Others KNOW that by paying one buck this month, and over fifty bucks next month, they have you! Why? Because most folks forget that they have even set up a subscription through Paypal or Credit Card!
What a dog eat dog world! So just be wary of these offers. Oh and.... heh! I just signed up for one! I’ve signed up for many of these, that’s how I know! And am NOT singling out any Marketers in particular. Jut watch out! OK?
- Right now am working on a list of the most popular e-books that have been sold on my site this year. Stand by.
- Here is something that I am working, actively and you may benefit by getting involved:
If am not your sponsor, do not use my links, but ask your sponsor for their links.
Feel free to use the content below however you want, including changing the links and name and altering it to your point of view.
The Follow Our Lead group is built around the marketing techniques that we have learned over several years of building long term residual income.
Every person that joins our team will be given the tools, knowledge and support needed to build a residual income for the long term, and every person will be put into a position to succeed.
Back in 2001, I joined a business opportunity and three months later, by helping those that I was enrolling to duplicate my efforts, I was able to quit my job. Over the following five years, my income grew to over $80k per month because my organization duplicated down the line through teamwork, and by doing the things we will be doing in the Follow Our Lead group.
The only mistake that I made in those five years is that I put all of my effort into one business. By doing that, I allowed one person's decisions and the fate of one company determine my fate. That income is now gone, but I would love to see you on board as we rebuild.
Here is the other issue:
I know through experience that you cannot build multiple businesses. You have to have a central "business" to recommend. Part of the building process is that you, as a marketer/business builder, have to be able to say, "This is the best thing and this is what I recommend."
These two issues are in conflict. We did not want to leave our fate in the hands of one company, but we also know we have to focus.
We also know that most "new businesses" fail. Nearly all of them fail, and there is no way to know which ones will survive the long term. [js: in fact, more than 95% of Internet-based business startups fail within a few months!]
Our solution is to create a team - "Follow Our Lead" - which functions as the "primary business" even though it is not a business at all. We have packaged four low cost, highly stable businesses together that complement each other. The package we have put together is a complete package of tools, products and services that are everything a person needs to succeed in creating a successful residual producing business.
We combine that with the training and team support of our group. The result is a situation where every person who comes on board can and should succeed in meeting their goals. Those who join us and follow our lead will see their lives change dramatically. The residual income that we will create will mean personal and financial freedom that few people on earth enjoy.
To learn more about our group's activities and support, feel free to join our forum at:
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/FollowOurLead/
Our meetings are there for anyone who needs it, but everyone is invited to contribute. There are literally thousands of ways to build an internet business, so we will provide as many options as possible to suit everyone's needs and preferences.
Our meetings are for training, but they are also a very good recruiting tool. If you become a member, you will find that if you invite guests to our meeting, they will see the successful and positive atmosphere at the meetings and they will realize that success will be attainable by joining us. In other words, nearly every guest that attends our training sessions becomes a part of our team.
Feel free to attend.
Meeting URL (will require a small download to access room):
http://www.hotconference.com/software/conference.php?id=87821142
Meeting Times:
Monday 10 pm EST US time
Thursday 1 pm EST US time
The duplicable team site is under construction, but should be available this coming week. It will make it very easy for our members to treat our group as a centralized "primary business."
I think the businesses we have decided to package are a perfect combination of everything people need to succeed and all will create a residual income [js: you will not need to quit your present business, if you have one, and the businesses in our package will even help you improve the business opp that you are in]. By diversifying in this way, if one of the businesses fail, it won't be devastating. We don't want to build residual income that will pay us for a few months. We are building residual income that will provide us for years to come.
The package includes four businesses:
1. Leader's Club offers the best and most duplicatable marketing training I have ever seen. It fits in perfectly with what we do, and provides a variety of great leads packages. I personally know people who have built and maintained a growing six figure income in this business. This is the URL:
http://www.leadersclub.com/32218
2. Everything that Leaders Club does not provide, you can find in Empowerism. It is only $20 per month but still provides an opportunity for an excellent income. One enrollment puts people in profit. The services are more internet focused than those of Leader's Club, but put together they provide a complete package:
http://www.empowerism.com/e/205667
3. GDI is one of the most stable and easy to build businesses out there and despite the low cost, it can also provide a very good income. Most of our members will use the domain and hosting services offered through GDI to host their "Follow Our Lead" team site.
http://website.ws/radiantjs
4. The fourth business may in fact provide the largest long term residual because we have discovered that it can be used as an excellent lead generator.
Hot Conference's product is the web conferencing technology that we use for our team meetings.
It is $29.99 per month, but it offers a $1 one month trial that we will be using to generate leads while they join our Hot Conference business. It makes it very easy to introduce people to our team for only $1 while also putting them in our Hot Conference business.
If you join from the link below, you will only be charged $1 and it will say $44.99 per month after that, but you will have the opportunity in the first 30 days to downgrade to the $29.99 package.
http://www.hotconference.com/members/micronuts/onedollar.php
When you join our team, you will be part of an already successful team built around duplication and empowering people to create residual income that will improve their quality of life. Because we are building our business the right way and not through the vicious cycle of attracting people with false promises and dishonest powerline schemes that seem so prevalent right now, we are able to feel very good about what we are doing and we will see a lot of people change their lives for the better.
I hope that you are one of those people.
Derek Bohlken (mainly, and js to add to his comments)
- New AceInvest announcement: (if you’re new to this honest HYIP, click on the Reviews button up top, right, then Ctrl-F on AceInvest):
“Dear Member,
On Thursday 9 November we will organize 2 Conference Calls; details
will be emailed to your AcE-Mail address. If you have not activated
your www.acE-mail.com account, please contact the Ace-mail support
department for login information at www.acesupport.biz/support .
Ace Exclusive Circle Website
============================
We will go live with the website on Friday 10 November, after the 2
Conference Calls. If you want to participate in the new Investment
Program, starting on the 13th of November, you have 1 week left to get
your payment in.
In the new program, you do not purchase Units; you can just invest the
amount you can afford from €10 and up. We still support the same
payment methods as before; see for more details in your member zone of
the www.aceinvest.biz website.
Talk to you on Thursday!
Regards,
Pedro Dispenza
Founder
www.acesupport.biz/support
Ps: Be on the look out for the conference schedule and program in your
Ace-Mail email box! Also tell your Team Members and Sponsor, some might
still have to activate their AcE-mail account.”
- While changing my profile in the 12by12daily.net FORUM, I just noticed the following update at the top of the screen:
“6677 Posts in 542 Topics by 3891 Members
Latest Member: Charis Johnson”
Woah! Could it be? Charis Johnson, the Admin of the late and infamous 12DailyPro joining the 12by12daily forum?????? Can’t keep away, I guess! For some strange reason I was thinking of her today! And now I find this! Is this a dream or what? I’ve always suspected that this world is in a dream that I am having! The evidence is piling up! Take heed!
It seems that Charis is operating a campaign to warn you off 12by12daily! And I don’t know why! She should have just quit and gone her way! Perhaps it is something personal.... as in... 12by12daily doing better than 12DailyPro ever did???? Not sure. But I’ve seen her posts and it seems about some kind of revenge.
- Wooohooo! I won the #3 spot for Vincent’s course on how to get lots of referrals and keep them! In ANY programme! Hope you listened to my advice and got on that free list. Because he’s limiting the course to 150 copies or 1 week, whichever comes first. This is to ensure that the techniques he reveals do not stall by too much distribution.
- Here is yet another one to avoid:
dd realityprofit.fortunecity.com
Here is a yet another one to avoid. "Profit : 20% every 20 minutes Total Payments : 8 X Total profit : 160%" Twenty percent every twenty minutes? Holy cow! Some Wall Street Firm should snab these folks and now! But why has it not happened? Because it is a scam! That's why.
So avoid.
- Am sorry, but I am very reluctant to review new surf sites at this time. There is clearly one leader and that is 12by12daily.net. So why invest in any others? If the number one guy goes down? And others replace him? Then that’s fine. But this is NOT the case right now! I know it is tough for other surfs sites to prosper! But what can one do? Nothing! So for now am reluctant to review other surfs... like tramael.com. I simply do not believe it! So for now all I can say is that you should click on the Reviews button up top, right, then Ctrl-F on 12by12 and read the review that’s there! Then make up your mind! And soon! Now is the right time! Two months from now may not be!
Nov. 6th (Monday)
- By the way... most of the programmes that I review actually come in as suggestions from readers of this BLOG, in case you were wondering. Just use the Submit for Review link right up top, below the Alert Service button. And don’t worry, I do get to yours eventually.
- DollarMonster: Looks like it's dead. The idiot made a big mistake by waiting on e-gold instead of just going ahead and setting up a new e-gold account right away. That did him in. Am quite sure he was advised by plenty of folks, including myself to set up a second account and keep taking in the money. But did he? Nooooooooooo... let’s wait on e-gold! Novice!
The cycle time there is now at 16 x 4 = 64 days! Well.... 65. So long! I would NOT put any money in there at this point.
- Great News from 12by12Daily (use the Reviews button up top, right, then Ctrl-F on 12by12 and read the review):
“Hi everybody,
Dave's implemented another level of automation with the referral payments now and, as you might have noticed, we're really zooming through payments again. Yesterday we reached the end of the first round of payments and have now returned to the beginning of the list for the second time.
Dave is still very confident that all payments will be made once a month.
On another note, we have just had 5 days of high upgrades and yesterday we reached a record yet again for the most upgrades in one day. For those of you constantly looking for indications of our growth you can take this as a sign that things are continuing to be great.
Best wishes
The 12by12Daily Team”
- dd bigcrumbs.com
Here is something that may be fun and profitable for you, if you plan to buy presents for Xmas and/or if you plan to advertise this nice site to others and earn from their purchases.
Check it out. You will notice on the signup form, that if you wish to refer, you need to be a US resident... well, if you are not, try just fillingi n the form and choose a state at random. And see what happens. Supposedly am in California. Am not sure why they have that restriction... probably an oversight by the programmer.
- dd boilinvestpro.com
OK, the name is a bit of a reminder of a boiler plate scam. Boil... Invest... Pro! Who's boiling who or what?
Here is what they say about themselves (and watch for that number 23!):
"Welcome to Boilinvestpro, Boilinvestpro is a real online investment program, provide you with the opportunity to be rich at a minimum of risk. Here is our pledge: Always keep in touch with our clients, and provide our clients continuous and steady profits."
and
"STATISTICS
Boilinvestpro was officially opened on October 12th 2006, It has been online for 23 days. During these 23 days,We are very glad to see our program is more and more popular. Now we have totally 524 members, 271 members of them have made their deposits. At present, we have totally received $ 34,273.60, and $ 4,449.96 has been paid to our members. There are currently 32 visitors online and our newest member is Mashel. You'll be happy here, don't hesitate to join us!"
Looks like they are supposedly in the ForEx market. There is a nice chart there, showing their entry points and exit points, recently. Here is what they say:
"Are you familar with Forex? Forex trading is your window to the world economy. It is the largest financial market in the world. Do you want to invest in forex? Are you still worry about losing your money because of lacking the necessary knowledge and time to make profitable transactions? Boilinvestpro provide you the real opportunity to realize your dream with the minimum rick. The only thing you should do is join us and make a deposit then get your profit everyday, our experienced traders will do all the other things for you. Open your account and start now!"
Note the poor grammar and spelling mistakes. Hey, if they were so great? They'd hire a good copy editor and proofreader. And never mind that, they'd be picked up by some Wall Street Firm and paid millions to do ForEx trading for them! Not for you! Your ten bucks is just not it if they have it right! So am already suspicious of this one.
Here are some worry-some answers to some questions (well, one was enough):
"Can I withdraw my principal? Yes, up to 10% of your principal will be refunded after 365 days. It depends on the plan you deposit."
Holy cow! Dog. Chicken! Apron! 10% after a whole year? How about 100%? Or is that a typo there? I don't even think this one will last one year! So you're likely going to lose your principal. So what are the plans then?
Their plans start at 1.1% daily for 365 days and go up to 1.5% daily for deposits of more than one thousand. Again, I consider this one as very high risk! At 1.1% daily, you will recover your initial spend in just under 100 days. That's over three months! I doubt they will even last that long!
Am sorry, but these folks have no reputation and I need not do any further research on them. Clearly they are not professionals. Clearly this is not a stable, long term, investment vehicle. As well, 1.1% daily (they don't mention trading days) is about three times higher than what can actually be attained in the ForEx market! So... am staying away.
js
- dd oil-fund.biz
Here is yet another programme that, on the website, contains ad copy that has not been checked for proper English grammar and spelling. So it is not likely run by professionals.
Here is what they say:
"we are welcome new investors!
This web-site is aimed at the investors who are interested in reliable and profitable investments, for people whose main goal is to get stable profit.
Our program is worked out to serve for a long term - 12 months for the allocation of capital with the aim of getting reliable profit from 1.4% up to 3% daily seven days a week. We offer you 5 plans for the investment according to your wish and financial possibilities:
$1 - 1000 1.4% daily
$1000 - 2000 1.6% daily
$2000 - 4000 2.0% daily
$4000 - 8000 2.5% daily
$8000 - more 3.0% daily
Trusting your money to our fund is always a reliable, successful and highly profitable investment. A lot of our permanent clients assured themselves of our activity, trusting their assets to our company.
Allocation of capital and compounding system gave broad opportunities to our investors to solve their financial difficulties and start planning stable and strong financial future."
So which market are they in? "The Oil-Fund is specialized on purchasing and sailing valuable securities and shares of the most profitable and leading companies whose main activities are oil & gas exploration and production and sale of petroleum products. We have to inform you that operations in the oil market bring the high and stable income."
Sailing valuable securities? How? By ship? Has to be. D'oh!
and "We invest the trust asset in the oil and gas industry buying shares and valuable securities, because it can be a safe investment, especially in "blue chip" companies known as the "Majors" in oil and gas. One incentive in investing in a "blue chip" company is that the level of risk is quite low. If this is our main aim and we are looking for low risk and high profitable income for our investors."
So are they licensed to sell securities? Let's see: "We do NOT trade online; we just gather money and send them to our Bank account. Trust money is used to purchase and sale valuable securities and shares of the oil and gas companies." What? They put our money into their Bank Account? Then they buy securities in their name?
Finally, read this: "You don't need to pay taxes. Since our system is private, nobody knows what and how much you earn. It's fast. You don't need to wait for money transferring. It's safe, because we guarantee that we can pay your initial investment in any case. It's easy to use. And the best thing is that you earn with us. You and your friends are always welcomed. You can earn, if you attract your friend. We hope for a long cooperation with you. You are always welcome!"
What? They actually advise you not to pay your taxes! Folks, this is NOT a professional and legit vehicle for your investments! No Admin who is running a legitimate opp will advise you that you need not pay your taxes! This is a very shady deal! And I would not risk my money in there!
- Looks like he VM card is NOT catching on:
“Greetings, Everyone! :-)
We have been unable to resolve the recent disputes with Virtual
Money, and we have officially discontinued using their services. We
apologize for the sudden notice, but there was nothing more we do to with VM
to get them to work with us. I do, however, believe it is only fair
for you, our members, to know some of the events and recent requirements
that began this dispute in the first place. Friday evening, October
20th, VM sent us an e-mail noting that we were under investigation
because we had done more than 5 transactions during the month (I note this
because all VM holders are placed under investigation, according to the
e-mail we were sent, when more than 5 transactions have been done on
your personal card throughout the month). They said that they were going
to close our account if they found that we were using the card for
business (at the time, we were only aware of 2 types of VM accounts:
personal, and merchant. We had sent enough information to VM to have a!
30k limit on our card, and that is quite high for most personal
accounts). Since then, we found that--in order to conduct business using a
VM debit card, one has to have a merchant account. That was our fault
for not being informed. In the e-mail, VM said that we could tell them
how we use the cards and they would consider opening a business account
for us. They gave us no time, however, as they had closed our account
just 4 hours after sending us the initial e-mail. This was the first
strike against us at VM, as such a quick closing of an account is highly
unprofessional. At this point (and still currently), we have 13,000
locked up in VM and were unable to withdraw it.
We attempted to reach our master agent throughout the weekend to no
avail, but he got back in touch with us during the following week.
Jerry, who is a wonderful guy (if Jerry owned VM, VM would be the best
system out there, and we would pay any kind of money to support him...the
guy is simply amazing), called us and told us that he was looking into
the problems, but VM was not giving him any answers. Within a week, VM
gave him some answers, and they told him we would have to pay VM $5000
and agree to sell cards. We told VM that we neither have a desire nor
the time to sell their cards. We only wanted to provide the service
for our members. They did respond to this. They stated that we would
have to pay them $5000, and they would sed us 200 cards to sell. On top
of this, we would have to send one of our employees for a mandatory 2
day training to learn how to sell the cards (and, naturally, we would
have to pay VM more for all of this). We told them again that we !
would not be selling the cards and that we only wanted to provide a
gateway service for our members. We were willing to get into a business
relationship with them, but we were not going to agree to sell their
cards as a merchant. They were not satisfied with this and told us that
we could not provide this service without the mandatory sales training,
the $5000 fee to become a merchant with them, and an agreement to sell
the cards. We refused, as our employees have better things to do than
waste 2 days at a training that we will not use. From here, they have
given us a phone number we have to call to begin the process of
transferring our 13,000 out of their bank (we will let you know if this does
not go as smoothly as they are promising because I think EVERYONE should
be keeping a very careful eye on VM right now).
I advise caution on your part with VM, as they have lost all my
trust. It is one thing to close an account and give a few business days
to reply to a closing request before closing the account (and, as noted,
we erred by being uninformed there). It is unacceptable, however, to
freeze $13,000 for anything other than fraud suspect (which we were not,
mind you, in the least). For those of you who remember Stormpay, the
quick freezing simply reminded me of them. So please, please be careful
with VM. We do not want to see anyone lose money. That is why we have
given you the straight facts here. If you have more than 5
transactions per month, know that you are being investigated by VM and could have
your monies frozen. We just wanted to give you the straight-and-narrow
of what happened here, as I believe it is fair for you, as a member of
CEP Trust, to know. Less than 1% of the fundings we have had at CEP
Trust have been through VM, so it is not hurting the majority o!
f our members, but I do feel badly that some of you can no longer use
them through us. We tried to fight it and get it to work, but VM does
not have a business account. They have only personal and merchant
accounts, just as we thought at the beginning.
VM has been de-activated entirely and the name has been removed from our
website. If you see the name anywhere, we may have missed it, so please let
us know. We do not want to be affiliated with this type of activity,
as it seems immoral to the core. Thank you for your continued support!
Keep looking for bigger and better things to come! ;-)
”
Nov. 5th (Sunday)
- Have a look at this trailer. It's a teaser showing referral commissions that Vincent has received this year and he will be launching his Referral Magnet Course/Report shortly. It will teach you how to get those referrals and make some nice money!
You can sign up right now and get on the list as Vincent will be limiting the number of reports sold. So get on board right now (free to get on the list).
By the way, my affiliate ID on this one is.... guess! Yep! 23! Something’s up with that number!
- dd orangebuck.com
This is a very interesting little distraction, and that's all it is. 60% daily for 3 days. Ponzi, obviously. Scam? Perhaps. Are you willing to test it out? I myself am not. But here is a link for you:
http://orangebuck.com/?referrer=70298035
- OK! I really believe in Success University! Here’s one Ad you can use to your affect:
“Success University is now letting you join for ONLY $2!
Would You pay 2.00 to Make over 4000 ???
http://Jstankiewicz1.successuniversity.com/new
Hi!
You read correctly! For only $2, you can now get started
with Success University. What's even better (we think)
is that this nominal processing fee will be donated to
a non-profit organization providing humanitarian support
world-wide.
All of the details are available to you immediately by
visiting the Success University Web Site!
Since it's release, this promotion has created a stir like
we've never experienced. Every single day since the launch,
records have been set for new enrollments! Not making a
move now could prove to be something you regret for
years to come. Learn about this exciting opportunity and
literally WATCH it happen!
See you at the top!
John Stankiewicz
http://JStankiewicz1.successunsuccessuniversityiversity.com/new ”
- I received this e-mail from an upline, Suzanna.... re PointShareXtreme.
"There are some exciting things happening at Point Share Extreme, a
program we joined several months ago and thought had died.... Not
only has it come back, but test payouts are being made. There are
many reports on forum of egold and ebullion payments being received
($200 each!!) and I have 2 people I know that received them as well.
The withdrawal button is now activated and set at $1000 per day, but
you aren't supposed to use it yet. You can also purchase more plans
with your account balance, which have been caught up and corrected
since the program stopped paying earlier this year (with a few
exceptional problem accounts according to forum).
I am not recommending anyone to join and spend money at this time,
but if you are already in from before, log in and check your balance
etc, purchase plans and get ready for the big email announcement that
we are allowed to withdraw funds, which will probably come early next
week (this is my own speculation given what has been happening up til
now).
If you did not see the post I sent about 8 weeks ago; you must log in
with your password being the same as your username, then go into your
profile and change the password and correct your info (including
please your referrer's name "suzanna" while you are there. Thank you!)
I will repeat that info below along with the relative urls.
I was skeptical about this one coming back.... but am getting more
enthused after test payouts of $200 each have been going out and they
are clearly preparing for the $1000 per day WD limit now.... time
will tell, but get your acct ready just in case!
Have a great weekend! I'll be here doing loads and loads of LAUNDRY!!!
LOL
Many Thanks!
Suzanna
PSG/PSX Previous Info:
Please read below an official message from PointShareGold (name
changed later to PointShareXtreme) and act accordingly if you are in
this program..
I don't have a copy of my downline in PointShareGold, therefore I
send this to my whole list, asking you to check who is your sponsor
in this program and to add their referral ID as explained below. In
case I am your sponsor, please type my id "suzanna" in the
appropriate field.
Notice that several other list owners have promoted this program so
you may have been sponsored by one of them or by someone else. Please
make sure you type the proper ID!
Also, add ONLY the account number of the specific e-currency you
used. If you used only e-gold then only type your e-gold account in
the appropriate field, if only e-bullion, then only e-bullion and so
on.. If you used more than one, then list them all.
ACT NOW !!! because as you know there is a large number of hackers on
the Internet and anyone who knows just your USER NAME would be able
at this time to log into your account and change all data!!!
Let's hope we will really see some money from this long time vanished
program.."
Well, ok. Go for it. js
- I just saw this post today re DollarMonster:
“Precisions about Dollarmonster:
I am replying to Pat and Lynn, but the following can help everyone else in
Dollarmonster:
I worked there in 2004 and I know the script.
I would like to stress the following:
1) when you ask for a withdrawal, it is deducted from your balance also if
it was still ot paid to your e-gold account. It is considered as paid within
the system and does not appear anymore in the total amount you are supposed
to receive in real money.
It is listed in your back office, under the section "Details about current
positions" with no mention of the date it was paid or will be paid. You have
to make your own account.
2) Did you understand why they want so much us to reinvest from our
backoffice???
BECAUSE IT PROFITS MAINLY TO THE PROMOTERS!
Why: because commissions are immediately withdrawable and paid in priority.
It means that our withdrawals are paid only if enough members are putting
into the program new money.
This is why it is better for us to ask for withdrawals and reinvest, than to
reinvest from our backoffice if we want to.
3) We can withdraw only if our total PURCHASES IN FRESH MONEY were $50, but
the amount we can withdraw if we made total purchases of min $50 in fresh
money can be less than $50.
I hope that the above helps....
If not, pls don't hesitate to contact me, I trust the program, I know that
it is up to us to make it work, if we keep in mind that promoters are the
first who are paid, because their commissions are paid in priority and
immediately.
Cheers to all. My time is GMT + 2 - I am away this evening my time, it means
from now for the next 24 hours.
Dev
”
- HotConference news!
“This is what I am sending to my contacts to generate leads for Hot
Conference. If you receive this letter, it doesn't mean that I
don't know you are already working with us. It means you are on the
lists that I am sending to.
You can adapt anything I post in this group for your use as well:
I strongly recommend doing this, and it will only cost you $1.
I don't know if you have considered working with me in my overall
business and marketing game-plan, but even if you are going to take a
different route, you should still do this.
We have discovered that the $1 trial version of Hot Conference,
which is what we use to do our meetings and is a very good business
opportunity, so what I will be doing is running a lot of advertising
and sending the link to every contact I have, which is about 19,000
people who were former ffsi members.
My game-plan going forward does not include "offering spillover" to
people who aren't going to actively build their business, but this
is an exception. Our overall plan is to build business in a way
that will duplicate down the line, exactly in the way that I built
an $80k per month income in FFSI in the past (only we know how to do
it better now).
This is the one exception and this is why you should do this:
-You can do this for a month for $1 and you can cancel and only lose
the dollar if you change your mind.
-It has a forced matrix (4x10) so since we are going to use it as a
lead generator (but also bringing people into that business at the
same time), we are going to duplicate it down the line.
-I will show you how to use it to generate prospects while building
a great hotconference income very easily. I will cover that topic
at my next training meeting and you will be invited.
To tell you the truth, I hope you decide to join us in the full
game-plan, and if you don't know what that is, contact me and I will
fill you in on the details, but even if you don't you should join
from the $1 hotconference link because it will help you with your
marketing efforts, and it will provide you with a really good
conferencing product.
Here is the link to join (js link):
http://www.hotconference.com/members/micronuts/onedollar.php
I also think if you join that with the idea of using it for what you
are already doing, but then attend our meetings and see what the
overall gameplan is.
Either way, I will cover the concept of using the $1 link to
generate leads for about 15 minutes of each meeting this week and
whether you are working with us or not, you are welcome to attend
and you will benefit from what we discuss there.
Here is the meeting info and times:
Meeting URL (will require a small download to access room):
http://www.hotconference.com/software/conference.php?id=87821142
Meeting Times:
Monday 10 pm EST US time
Thursday 1 pm EST US time
Let me know what questions you have.
Derek Bohlken and js
”
Nov. 4th (Saturday)
- dd online-capital.com
Market: ForEx
Market: Sports Arbitrage
Fees: No startup fees!
Location: Vienna, Austria, Wienerberg Business Park, 40 professional all over the world (claim).
Bank affiliations: Royal Bank of Canada, Brisbane, Curucao, Nevis, Liechtenstein, and most other banks. Yeah right!
"Online Capital was founded in 2001 by a group of professional bankers and traders for collective FOREX trading. Initially our activity was focused only on the Central European market. In 2005 a decision was made to expand our scope of activity to a global scale. According to this decision an Internet site was set up providing our partners a convenient way of earning money and getting support" - from what I’ve read, support is NIL!
"Online Capital's team has been working on the FOREX market for more than 5 years now. Online Capital developed a unique analysis system for prediction of the situations on the currency market. We know how to make extended forecasts and we earn on this together with our investors. The key advantage of the program is the maximum precision data of changes in the currency rates, confirmed by our own reliable bank sources" - then you would have been bought out by now by some big FIRM, ok? Why do you want my ten bucks?
"Online Capital doesnt have a minimum deposit. Everything you deposit on your account will start working for you right away" - now this is a red flag. ForEx accounts take up to 8 days to be funded with your funds! Especially from e-gold! This smells of a ponzi to me!
OK, I was going to list this one, but guess what? They found my IP address in an RBL blacklist! Holy cow! As if am a scammer or something! They don't even provide you with the RBL URL so that you can contest it! Now that's a real piece of work! Sometimes security measures can go way overboard. What if you use dialup and happen to get an IP address (dynamic) that a scammer previously used? No recourse! Well, maybe this is a sign from those in higher planes warning me off this one!
# Congratulations! User «micronuts» authorized successfully: 04 Nov 2006 18:57:00, GMT
# Your IP address was found in the database «RBL (Real Time Blacklist)» We are sorry but your account was not approved for the bonus: IP: 207.61.219.53 » http://tqmcube.com/policy.php;
Now, I've checked robtex.com and they could not find an RBL where my IP, above, was listed. openrbl.org does not have my IP blacklisted either. Am positively whitelisted there twice, no positive blacklists, but several neutral blaclists (-1), whatever that means. But neutral means neutral. I checked a few an those and they say not listed. So... not listed! I'll try a few more RBL list services: AntiSpam DNSBL: not listed. So where the heck are these folks finding my IP listed in a blacklist? My IP address (first two octets) is not even within any known blacklist block! Am beginning to suspect that am not listed anywhere, and that the Admin is simply using a ruse to deny folks the advertised $25 bonus. After all, most folks would not have a clue where to look to see if their IP is blacklisted or not. So this leads me to conclude that this particular opp is a shady deal. I could be wrong.
And now for some DD:
Admin keeps 20% of all deposits. Nice! For Admin. That's actually HUGE! Hold on while I run my own HYIP! Not.
The Admin claims to be able to "move" exchange rates. As far as I know, very few influential men, or women for that matter, can do this! So I think this guy is just outright lying.
Well this investigation is starting to get fun, and funny! Seems that Admin had the sign up link inoperative for a while there! During some heavy advertising as well! Oops. This $25 bonus makes me reminisce about Fast-Market! But it was $50 at that one and well-run. So I don't think this one is run by the same scammer.
I have found the same RBL complaint of his in other forums! So this is turning out to be a tactic like I thought. I mean, how would individual folks who probably don't send out a lot of spam, if any, get on a blacklist????? They don't.
Oh and by the way, when signing up they wanted me to spell my cat's name with a minimum of ten characters! Har! That's a funny one! I had to add stupid digits to my cat's name! Am sure I will remember that particular security question! Cat's name? Um... it was.. um birsky, but... um... what digits did I choose? Was it birsky8888? Hmmmm.... D'oh!
And now I find the guy put the whole of the Asian region into a blacklist! Assuming that all of them are scammers and hackers and so on! You know what? That's it. There is no reason to do any further research on this one. Either the guy is a liar and scammer himself, or he's so naive that he can't even run an HYIP properly, never mind "moving" the ForEx exchange rates! So long sucka! As you can well conclude... Am staying out of this one!
Oh and one of the clients did call their support number and got an answering machine. So the guy can’t even afford a living and breathing secretary! And he can “move” 4X exchange rates? HA!
Registration Service Provided By: FIRST ALPINA TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
Contact: +66.29575
Domain Name: ONLINE-CAPITAL.COM
Registrant:
Online Capital LTD
Alex Ringstrom (info@online-capital.com)
Wienerbergstrasse 9
Suite #123
Vienna
null,1100
AT
Tel. +43.19280081
Fax. +43.19280079
Creation Date: 19-Jan-2006
Expiration Date: 19-Jan-2011
Domain servers in listed order:
dns145.smartservercontrol.com
dns144.smartservercontrol.com
Administrative Contact:
Online Capital LTD
Alex Ringstrom (info@online-capital.com)
Wienerbergstrasse 9
Suite #123
Vienna
null,1100
AT
Tel. +43.19280081
Fax. +43.19280079
Technical Contact:
Online Capital LTD
Alex Ringstrom (info@online-capital.com)
Wienerbergstrasse 9
Suite #123
Vienna
null,1100
AT
Tel. +43.19280081
Fax. +43.19280079
- A message re HotConference sent out by Derek:
“I have not started sending hotconference to my contacts yet because we
have several "enrollment" issues where people aren't in the right
place and it is not fair to them to start bringing in people for this
project since it is not their fault. As soon as I have these issues
cleared up, I will start sending out to my contact base and it will
create prospects for our group.
I will post the right approach for those people some time this weekend.
It also may be a good idea to verify that you are under the right
person in Hot Conference before then too.
Derek
”
- dd a3union.com
Here is what they say about themselves:
"A3Union is a leading global provider of high yield investment products and services. Since 2003, the company's professional management team has remained stable and focused for the years of combined private equity experience and expertise and managed a positive long-term track record of tremendous returns over numerous economic cycles.
Professional Expertise and Unique investment Solutions
A3Union trading team manages over 10 portfolios on 5 global stocks and equity markets. With our expertise and substantial capital resources, A3Union can respond quickly to all customers needs with effective and individual solutions. For more information please visit our 'Funds' section."
and
"Global Presence
Today A3Union consists of dedicated and experienced investment professionals in Europe, the United States and Asia. A3Union analyzes transactions using its knowledge of both the local and international high yield investment markets, and also relationships with over 20 global high yield investment partners. Having an international presence allows us to understand our customers not just remotely, but personally. Our website is ranked as in good standing on over 50 rating websites, forums, magazines, blogs and other websites."
Yawn. OK.
Let's look at these plans of theirs:
"Aggressive Portfolio
This fund is our special. We invest your assets only for 2 calendar days. Under the contract terms, we perform daily aggressive trades, even though these are high risk operations, we still manage to pay 0.8% daily for this fund.
Maximum profit generated in 2 days - 1.6%.
The principal is released in 2 days.
Possible profit losses* - 0.3%
Minimum investment - $5"
The problem I have with this one is that it takes from 7 to 8 days to get your money into a trading account! So how does the 2 day portfolio fit in? Ponzi! That's how. If they were to say, fine! But they don't. They lie!
Now let's examine the next portfolio:
"Classic Portfolio
This portfolio is an equal combination of day trading transactions along with low risk financial analysis. This fund does require compounding; we still manage to offer the daily interest of 1.7%.
Take a try of this low risk opportunity, and your principal and profit will be secure and 100% guaranteed.
Guaranteed profit in 7 days - 12%.
Minimum investment - $25
The principal is released in 7 days."
First off, I don't understand the first sentence! ... along with low risk financial analysis? What the heck does this mean? We're paying for low riks analysis? Huh? And it requires compounding? 7 days? Heck, that's how long it requires to get your money into a trading account! So by that time your money has not even been traded! Are we stupid? Are you stupid? I think I hear you saying... NO!
Now, just for fun, let us review the next plan that they have:
"Combined portfolio
Depending on the current market trend, we manage to combine high-risk aggressive transactions along with classic low-risk short time investments.
Principal released in 14 Days.
Maximum profit generated in 14 days - 28%.
Possible profit losses* - 6%
Minimum investment - $50"
Principal released in 14 days? Hello! That's not long term.. but ultra-short-term! Just 6 days after your money is in a trading account! ... along with classic low-risk short time investments? Bullocks! Or ... cough... Bull(*((it! Har! Are you all nuts? Nope, did not think so!
And the remaining plan? Just forget it. I would not insult your intelligence!
My final comment: this seems to be a pure scam. Not just an HYIP that will allow some of us to make some money, but a pure scam! Again, this is ONLY my own opinion. Conclude for yourself. Am not including my link!
js or... johnski!
Nov. 3rd (Friday)
- A note from Derek:
“It is a given that we don't want to promote offering spillover in
general, but I am going to send the email (read at the bottom) to
over 19,000 personal contacts regarding hotconference.
I am doing this to specifically create contacts for all of you. When
you get spillover, go ahead and contact the person under you about
our team in general and Leader's Club/GDI/Empowerism.
You will not get an email when you get spillover so you do need to
log in regularly to see if you get spillover so that you can contact
them about our group.
If you are not yet in Hot Conference, you will want to do it now.
Even if you are a guest, I recommend doing this now because I know
most of you are looking at working with us (if you are not my guest,
email me at derekrq@yahoo.com to get your sponsor or inviter's link):
http://www.hotconference.com/members/micronuts/onedollar.php (js's link)
I will post instructions on how to approach any spillover you get
about joining our group. Also, feel free to check with me to see if
your spillover is from my contact list or from the hotconference ad
co-op. I will likely be able to tell you which will make the
approach to them slightly differently.
If you are not in the hot conference co-op, let me know and I will
send instructions.
Derek Bohlken AND js”
- How to formulate an exit strategy for HYIPs? I’ve been asked this question and here is my intial response:
The problem is that most hyips cannot be trusted, hence it is not possible to formulate an exit strategy.
In general, one should attempt to get out one's initial spend as quickly as possible, take some profit and risk the rest.
But most hyips run with your money before you are even able to get any of your money out, especially in plans that keep your money for five or more days. So if you are going to play, then choose those hyips and plans that pay you daily and which pay you 10% or more per day so that you can get your money out in ten days or less. But not too much less, as those are simply collecting your money.
There are very few HYIPs out there right now that give you a reasonable ROI per day, such as 2% or less. xxx is one of them, GlobalOnlineDepository is another. I trust these two. Most of the rest cannot be trusted. Hence again it is not possible to formulate an exit strategy that works in general, or most of the time. Not in HYIPs.
If HYIP admins were to come up with reasonable plans, and if they were to invest your money in legitimate enterprises, then perhaps one can come up with a good strategy for investing in HYIPs. But this is not the case at the present moment. Hence my best advice to you is to, for the most part, stay away from MOST of the HYIPs out there. Even the so-called private ones.
Right now I can only think of a few that are legit in which I myself have investments:
1. xxxx (see reviews page)
2. PIU (see reviews page)
3. GOD (ditto)
4. Shop Right (ditto)
5. RiskFreeProfit (ditto)
6. PointShareExtreme (maybe, ditto)
7. WorldLpp.com (ditto)
8. AceInvest (ditto)
js
- Here is a WORLDLPP.com announcement (the Company that let’s you have a share in various business that they have bought and will buy in the future... click on the Reviews button up top, then Ctrl-F on worldLpp):
“Hello everyone. Conrad here with some quick announcements. First - all commissions have been paid and your profits have been added to your accounts. You can check by log-in into your members area, but this only applies to IT Center holders.
We are almost done with PE and that should be available very shortly. Vivamin is being redone and it will have over 600 products when completed. Yes - Vivamin and PE are running behind schedule but work for our IT Center took priority. PE should be out within a few days, and Vivamin within a week or two.
We still have about half of the IT Center discount units available. As I said before, this is being done by a full partner of our company who has encountered some very difficult and trying times (see last update). These are priced at only $25 as they are a private sale, Our best program to date, by far, is our IT center - so I can not understand why more of you do not take advantage of this offer. We have included the payment links below again. I will even allow a limited amount of buys via Paypal, but you will have to email us to take advantage of that. Just email us at admin AT worldlpp.com and tell us how many units you would like to buy via Paypal, and we will send you a payment request. Make sure that you include your Paypal email address as well. Please - use this only to buy at least 5 units or more.
Now for another surprise. We are also developing a totally free members website. This is being done by our own IT Center, and is backed by our company. It should be available within the next week or so as well, so watch for it. It is free, offers $10.00 for signing up, company ownership, downloads, and so much more. It will be free forever with no surprises - except for the concept. All of our members will get first crack, and we hope that you get as excited as we are about this new program. Once again - it will be totally free i.e. no surprises, backend, upgrade, etc.
That's about it for now, but we will have another update early next week. Please do what you can to buy up the remaining discounted IT units. I did promise him that I would buy what is left over, but that would take away funds from the IT Center - and it is doing quite well right now. Let's keep that going and do your part. Have a great weekend to all!!
Conrad
Info for units purchase: You can either snail mail the payment as money order or check ($50. for each PE unit, $25. for each IT unit - 5 unit minimum, and do include your name and WLPP ID#) and send that to:
IT Center
22811 Meridian Ave East #B-19
Graham, Washington, USA 98338
Or you can pay through E-gold using 2505859 (the IT account) IT units ONLY. Include your WLPP ID in the memo and the amount of IT units you are buying but in this format: 5 discount IT units, 20 discount IT units, etc. Then email us at admin AT worldlpp.com to let us know and include your batch number, date of payment, name and WLPP ID.
If you want to buy PE units through E-gold, you need to do that in your WLPP member area under "Purchase Prizexplosion".
Or pay directly with your credit card as follows:
1. You can go to our IT Center website at http://itconsultinglive.com/pay/apay.php . Fill out the form on the right side and make sure you fill in all areas. For company - you can put "none" if you need to.
$50.00 for each PE unit
$25.00 for each IT unit - 5 unit minimum
2. Under "Reason" at the bottom - please put down the amount of units you are buying but in this format 5 discount IT units, 20 discount IT units, etc. (or 1 PE unit etc.) Then add your name and WLPP number. Please do NOT forget that part as we need to credit your accounts.
3. Then click pay and it will take you to a secure credit card page where you can finalize payment.
Please follow EXACTLY these simple instructions - you MUST add your WLPP ID, this is absolutely required. Some of you did not and it causes us a lot of additional work to credit your account if we have to search for your IDs first especially if we have more than one member with similar names.
”
- New Shop Right Announcement:
“Dear John,
Checkout our NEW home page.
New Conf. Call Number:
1-563-843-7525 pin 827528#
Checkout Scott Olsen's Monday thr Friday
at 8 p.m. Eastern Time
I'll be in Kansas City Nov. 6th
7 p.m. Central Time
Again, checkout our new home page.
Success Always,
Alex Jakubowski
Sincerely,
Affiliates Manager
Shop Right
http://www.sright.com
support AT sright.com
”
Nov. 2nd (Thursday)
I was told not to advertise this one right now! But here it is: The Referral Magnet!
This is from a fellow that I well respect! Vincent! His DD reports are even more full than mine! And am ready to admit it! Am no ego on that! This guy will teach you how to get referrals on all sites, like surfs and hyips and hence help you to earn a lot of bucks! Sigh. What can I say? Trust me and go with him!
By the way, am not the guy he’s talking about, that leaked his report.
How To Magnetically Attract An Unstoppable Flood Of Referrals
- An Update from Derek Bohlken re HotConference!
“I've talked about how I am not going to mass enroll people because I
want to help all of you duplicate my efforts any way I can.
I am going to make one exception and I will wait until all of you in
this group are on board with it.
We have realized now that Hot Conference (the $1 for the first
month) trial is a great lead generator. It's a great business with
a very retailable product, but having the $1 trial is a great way to
get people on board.
So since I can enroll hundreds of people into a business, though I
can't be sole support for that many new people at once, I am going
to send my $1 hot conference link out to every contact that I have.
I will wait until tomorrow to start that process to give any of you
who are not signed up a chance to sign up, because it does have a
forced matrix so you need to get in first.
As I sign up people straight from emails from my contact base, I
will distribute those contact's information to all of you to
approach about working with our team. It should be a lot of people.
Here is the link:
http://www.hotconference.com/members/micronuts/onedollar.php (js's link)
If I am not your sponsor, contact me so I can get you your sponsor's
link. Try to get enrolled tonight. It is only $1. It will then
say $44.99 per month starting the 2nd month, but in that month you
can downgrade to the 29.99 package by contacting the company.
Also, there is the option of cancelling and only losing the dollar,
but I know none of you will want to do that.
Derek Bohlken”
- Folks, when I posted my diatribe on the state of the surf industry, what I should have mentioned is that my top 4 or 5 picks are not amongst the 98% that I mentioned. XLO Autosurf may indeed be one of those that is not investing your money in 12by12daily... and may be a good contender for the #2 position in this industry. And their security appears to be as good as that of David’s. They too catch crooks almost on a daily basis. And the Admin (Andy) appears to be a swell guy.
- Another ad coop from Derek:
“I am realizing that the hot conference $1 offer is a huge draw for
advertising and for introducing people to our team. I am going to
do a $10 co-op to put it into some newspapers and a couple of home
business magazines along with some pay per click advertising. That
will be a great lead generator to get people into HC and then
introduce them to our group.
If you were previously in Leader's Club co-op:
I am going to buy the ads for the Leader's Club co-op tomorrow. If
you purchased shares in that co-op, but want to divert some of your
funds to the hotconference co-op, please let me know by tomorrow
afternoon. The other option is to also buy Hot Conference shares
but keep your Leader's Club shares.
If you were in Empowerism co-op:
Empowerism is a great business, and I am going to continue to feed
traffic to that rotator, but it does not respond well to
advertising. You will get benefit from it long term, but you can
also get benefit from it now. If you participated in the Empowerism
co-op, I will buy you a share in this hotconference co-op, too, but
only if I hear from you that you want to do that.
For everyone else, if you want to participate in this ad co-op,
please let me know by email to derekrq@yahoo.com
Derek Bohlken
”
Nov. 1st (Wednesday)
- Good day to you!
- I must reiterate: SwissCash is a known scam.
There is no such fund as SwissmutualFund!
Best you stay away from this one.
js
- Here's a new product that you may be interested in: Article Wizard.
This tool will help you to look like an expert in any field you choose (for writing articles on). You can then submit your article to various e-zines. Include your own link and it will help you to sell related products (either your own or as an affiliate.. there are lots to choose from at Paydotcom.com, Clickbank, and others).
The other way you can use the tool is to generate content for Adsense ads. You can see some ads on my own site, in the BLOG: http://9planetreviews.com/blog.shtml , on the left side of the page you will see various articles that I have simply put on my website and then created links in my BLOG to them. I've also submitted those links to various search engines. So in this case you can write professional articles and let Adsense generate related ads for you.
I will expound on other ways to use the Article Wizard in coming days.
- DD hyipinvestclub
Do not invest in hyipinvestclub or any others like it. That's my advice. Given that 99% (ok, it could well be just 98%) of HYIPs are not just ponzis, but scams, and which don't last long... the idea of diversifying in various HYIP games does not make any sense whatsoever!
Now, if they were to invest in some legit HYIPs such as xxx and GlobalOnlineDepository (which had their e-gold account compromised recently) and... and... ummmm... there you go! Can't even think of any others!
So this one does not make any good sense.
- Andy of XLO Autosurf has responded to my post in my BLOG re his surf programme and 12by12daily:
XLO Autosurf: Admin has decreased the number of sites you need to surf in an effort to decrease server load. They will also move to another DataCenter and adding more RAM (memory) to the server. But... ha, I suspect this will not help significantly, as the key issue is likely all those Database calls! Although, if the number if users is increasing quite a bit, then sure, additional RAM will help. It’s a tricky thing, to optimize the server. I hope they do regular backups and take some offsite, just in case of a disaster. In case you’re new to my BLOG, Xlentopps or XLO Autosurf is one of my top 5. 5 is all you need! Most of the others invest in 12by12daily! So why invest with them and get a lower ROI? Just invest in 12by12 yourself! Ok, I was driving home and was going to expound on that, so here goes:
Now.. your point about the database calls is correct - except that what you failed to mention is that the pipe from Malayasia is significantly smaller than the usual US pipeline to the net. Thus it it easier for it to be slowed up via those database calls. Move to new datacenter = largerpipeline. (OK, agreed)
Does the script need optimization - most assuredly
Now you've gone into rhapsodies over 12x 12 and yes he has a good program goinf. (just btw we catch cheaters and hackers every day too we just don't go on and on about it) Does Dave pay on time?? (curious as as far as I have heard - he does not) [har! That’s funny. David does not go on and on about it. He rarely, in fact, posts anything at all. He’s mentioned it once, as I recall. - js]
Is his the best? well maybe - but is XLO just as good - yes it is and we pay instantly so one could argue better. If all you are looking for is a fast return then TFT rivals and outperforms Dave as well - after all - we pay on time.. [js: and I’ve noticed that David has always paid within the time frame mentioned in the TOS]
The combination of XLO + TFT is a 1 2 punch that takes most iof not all other programs out of contention..
(BTW I have no problem with 12 x 12 I reckon he's doing great - but any program that does not pay on time is - in my opinion - advertising their return rate falsely .. [js: when did he not pay on time?]
Andy
- I can’t believe the DollarMonster Admin! Is he daft or what? He’s still, today, complaining that his e-gold account is still blocked! The idiot should just go ahead and set up a second e-gold account and continue to take money in and pay money out! By not doing so... he’s killing his own programme! Am just shaking my head on this! Hello! Admin! Set up a second account and continue operations! What’s up with you? (Ok, I already sent such an e-mail to him/her).
Oct. 31st (Tuesday)
- Am on the road again today, on the way home, 8.5 hour trip. I should be able to do some updates this evening. Have yourself an un-confronting day.
- I have arrived safe and sound and should have some updates for you shortly.
- Seems that DollarMonster Admin has not been able to get their account unfrozen at e-Gold as yet. But why is he waiting? If he wants the darn thing to continue, he had better simply set up another e-gold account and go with that until the other account is unfrozen! Am sure many folks have already suggested that to him. If he does not proceed with that then I will begin to suspect that he provided false details to e-gold.
- AceInvest Announcement (for a review go to the Reviews page, button up top):
“Dear micronuts,
I have made it back in one piece; the mind is clear and I am full of
energy. The first 70 Trusts have been established and bank accounts
will be opened by the general ‘Trustee’ Mr. Welch as soon as you wish
to make a withdrawal to your Trust Account.
More information will be published on the Info Board inside the Ace
Exclusive Circle website. Talking about the Ace Exclusive Circle
website, I was negatively surprised about the progress of our IT
department during my 2 week absence. In fact, the progress was so
little that we cannot launch the site on 1 November.
I’ll be back in Riga later this week and I will have an urgent meeting
regarding these delays. I will do my outmost best to launch the website
Wednesday, the 8th November, when I will also organize and host the next
Conference Call.
The October Trading
===================
If you reserved Trading Units for the trading that started on the
second of October you have 1 day left to make a payment, but we can
only accept payments by e-Gold and e-Bullion. Payment information can
be found in your members’ zone at www.aceinvest.biz.
If we receive payments after the 31st of October, regardless the payment
method you have used, this money will be deposited into the pool for
the November Trading which will start November the 13th.
AcE-Mail
========
This will be the last message that we will send to your personal e-mail
address. The next general message will go to your Ace-Mail address. If
you have not yet activated your Ace-Mail account, do it right now! If
you have forgotten your Ace-Mail log-in details, please contact our
Support Desk at www.acesupport.biz/support and select the Ace-Mail
department.
Know Your Customer
==================
We are receiving dozens op documents per day by e-mail and mail from the
‘smart’ members that want to start making withdrawals as soon as the
Ace Exclusive Circle website is live. Let me remind you what is
required:
1) A copy of 2 Government IDs with a clear picture and legible. If you
can come up with a copy of 1 ID only you can still get verified if you
have that one copy notarized or legalized.
2) A copy of a utility bill, i.e. water, electric or a phone bill. If
you live with your parents, or cannot deliver such invoice, please send
a copy of a bank statement. We cannot accept invoices sent to Post
Boxes.
3) Fill out and sign the Affidavit, go here to download a blank copy:
http://www.exlusivecircle.org/Affidavit.pdf
You can send the documents through regular mail to:
AceXclusiveCircle Corp
PO Box 75646
1070AP Amsterdam
The Netherlands
Or you can attach the documents to an e-mail sent to kyc@ace-mail.com
It is extremely important to comply with the KYC policy; we will have
to cancel your membership if your documents have not been received
before January 1, 2007.
I sure hope that I have better news about the website next week, talk
to you then!
Regards,
Pedro Dispenza
www.acesupport.biz/support
”
- dd adamshyip.com
Avoid this one!
Test/Monitor Plan - 5% hourly for 24 hours (Fully Automatic Withdraw)
160% after 1 day (Fully Automatic Withdraw)
240% after 2 days (Fully Automatic Withdraw)
400% after 3 days (Fully Automatic Withdraw)
From the above plans, it is obviously a scam. Don't even bother testing it.
- I believe Cybiz Ling, below, because I know that ProWealthSolutions (PWS) is indeed a scam:
“Hi John,
I hope you will post this on your blog so that your readers can be warned about this scam. In March this year, I joined Probuilderplus and purchased $299 leads package from their recommended leads supply company (ABC Marketing). After trying out the leads, I discovered that they are completely worthless as I could not even get a single paid member from the thousands of leads supllied by ABC. I immediately canceled my ABC leads subscription and a month or so later, I also canceled my Probuilderplus subscription.
I just received my September 2006 credit card statement yesterday and was shocked to see a charge of $108 from ABC. I immediately contacted my credit card issuing bank to inform them about this fraudulent charge from ABC in September. To my horror, I was informed by the bank that there had been an additional 4 charges of $108 by ABC in the month of October. I immediately asked my bank to block my credit card and to institute chargebacks aginst ABC for the 5 fraudulent charges totalling $540. I hope I will be able the chargebacks will be successful. Ask your readers who have formerly purchased leads from ABCMarketing to check their credit cards statements carefully. They may have been scammed too!
Now Probuilderplus have come out with a new program Prowealthsolutions. This is now regarded as a real pyramid scheme. A friend of mine joined Prowealthsolutions as he was tempted by the hype that you can easily earn a passive income of over $1,000 from the matrix spillovers. Yes, he did have close to 30,000 paid members in his powerline and he thought he would get his matrix filled fast. But guess what? There was not even one spillover into his matrix. The program just made the perpetrators rich.
Thank you.
Regards,
Cybiz Ling”
Thanks to Bobyesh for the pumpkin pics!
- XLO Autosurf: Admin has decreased the number of sites you need to surf in an effort to decrease server load. They will also move to another DataCenter and adding more RAM (memory) to the server. But... ha, I suspect this will not help significantly, as the key issue is likely all those Database calls! Although, if the number if users is increasing quite a bit, then sure, additional RAM will help. It’s a tricky thing, to optimize the server. I hope they do regular backups and take some offsite, just in case of a disaster. In case you’re new to my BLOG, Xlentopps or XLO Autosurf is one of my top 5. 5 is all you need! Most of the others invest in 12by12daily! So why invest with them and get a lower ROI? Just invest in 12by12 yourself! Ok, I was driving home and was going to expound on that, so here goes:
- OK, here is the traffic (and ranking is similar) chart for 12by12daily.net for us to examine together:
Now notice the big surge in the beginning. That was when David Cannard of the famous DadnDave’s autosurf launched 12by12daily.net. Based on his reputation alone, folks flocked to his site and... well, caused a lot of technical headaches due to volume. Over the next month and a half David worked hard to catch up and fix the technical issues (can’t surf, etc., but all were credited!). And then, beginning in September, after most of the problems were resolved, confidence surged! And folks putting in their spends also increased and continued to increase steadily to today. If you draw a straight line from the beginning of September to where we are at today... you will see that it is an increasing line of about 45 degrees. Not exponential, but steady growth!
By the way, David has THE BEST security in place! And catches cheaters and hackers almost on a daily basis! Some other sites have succumbed because they did not have that kind of security, nor money to buy it (as in GAP).
So when is the best time to get in? Well, in hind sight, it was at the beginning and at maximum of $6K spend! Well, I did not do that. I went with about 2K or so. At the beginning of Sept... would have been the other good time to get in but... from the graph before that... it would not have been with any sort of major confidence. But if you look at it today? The chart does not seem to be going down, but up (if you follow the general trend)! So today and in the coming days, is the BEST time to get in there with all that you can afford! I certainly did! I maxed my account out! And my sponsor is quite HAPPY! Just ask her.
So what am I saying to you? Here goes:
a) This is the number one (Auto)Surf site without a single doubt and with no challenge from anyone out there on this.
b) Most of the other surfs are investing your money, if you’re with them, in 12by12daily.
c) The time is ripe to put in all you can in there because 12by12daily is now in a momentum phase! That means they are picking up new clients and new money, day by day and there is no end in site at this moment!
d) We are getting into the MOST busiest month of the year, November, hence folks will max out their accounts, if they can so that they can earn enough to pay off all those credit cards in preparation for Xmas!
e) December will NOT be the right time to get in as folks will focus on shopping, drinking, partying, and so on. Your best shot is now, in November. December is a slow down for ALL programmes out there. Maybe, just maybe, not for 12by12daily as this one is totally PASSIVE (well, you do have to surf 12 sites per day, but that’s easy now). And hopefully another surge will come in January, as folks will get back to try and make more money to pay off newly acquired balances on their credit cards!
So what will you do? I know what I will do. Am maxing out again! So if you’re not in there yet, read my review of it by clicking on the Reviews button up top, right, then Ctrl-f on, or find, 12by12. And then YOU decide.
js (end diatribe)
- New ShopRight (The Oil Concern) Announcements: (click on the Reviews button up top and then Ctrl-f on Shop Right)
"Dear John,
Today I have good news for all of you! Pat is beginning to gather herself together after her ordeal over the past week and we hope that by later today, Monday, all support systems will be back into full swing again, although please do not hit us all at once because we do have some back-logged issues that we must deal with.
First, let me once again thank all of you for your patience and understanding because bereavement is never easy for anyone and for Pat to lose Kenny so suddenly after being together for 24 very happy years has been devastating to say the very least and has greatly shocked all of us that are very close to her.
So now to a new start and new business at http://www.best-co-op.info/.
There are now new leads in for the Senior Focus Group which you are able to buy for yourself or maybe you want to share your leads and the cost with your down line groups. You will find purchase options on the website.
Also, still available, are the 1000 free leads with new purchase or upgrade to the Silver powersponder and leads will be loaded for you along with the 10 Shop Right approved ads, and again all details for this are set out on the website at http://www.best-co-op.info/ .
Conference Room Classes
Pat says that she will open the online conference room for informal classes today if any of you would like to go over to begin picking up where we left off and catch up with everything live. All of the information to get connected with our conference room and classes are inside your Shop Right back office.
We hope to be speaking with all of you later today.
Sincerely,
Pat and Nigel
Based in Tucson Arizona USA & Keighley United Kingdom
Powerbase Systems, Inc.
Nigel & Pat
Company Owners
support@powerbase-uk.us
Keighley /United Kingdom
Tucson /Arizona-USA
IF YOU NEED TO REACH PAT AND/OR NIGEL YOU MAY DO SO BY EMAILING THEM AT support AT powerbase-uk.us.
THANK YOU!
Sincerely,
Affiliates Manager
Shop Right
http://www.sright.com
support AT sright.com"
and
"See Ya later on tonight's call...
99% Done.....check it out.
www.cyberneticmedia.com/shopright/6min.html
Success Always,
Alex Jakubowski
"
and
"Dear John,
Tim Southgate is presently doing a co-op advertising program in newspapers and magazine.
Anyone who wishes to participate my call Tim
at 812-319-2915 or e-mail Tim at: timsouthgate2005 AT yahoo.com (replace the AT with @ and remove the blanks)
Prices are around $40 and Tim will give you all the details of is marketing program.
Success Always,
Alex Jakubowski
Sincerely,
Affiliates Manager
Shop Right
http://www.sright.com
support AT sright.com
"
- Oh my God! I now have two and a half large jars of Calamari! And I mean large! I love that stuff! I can only get that from one of the large shopping conglomerates out there where you have to pay yearly for membership! Imagine that! They fool you into paying a yearly membership fee in order to buy their stuff! Now, do they give you shopping bags? Nooooooooo! You have to use their cardboard boxes! So not only do they get you to pay THEM to shop, but they also get you to take THEIR garbage out! How insane is that? Are you laughing? Because it is true! Price Club! Aptly named!
- So it is Halloween night here. But I have not seen anyone on the street! Except for a guy in a monster suit with a harmonium! And that’s it! How strange is that?
Do you know what Halloween is all about? No? OK, I will tell you since you are twisting my rubber arm! It’s the night that should be used to purify your abode of lingering ghosts! You’re supposed to circumnavigate your house/abode three times! One person should be ringing a bell (daemons don’t like it), the second person should be holding a candle, and the third person should be carrying incense (moving it about) and mumbling something like: You are dead! You should leave! You do not belong here! You are deceased! Move on! Get the f***ck out of here already! Repeat that ad infinitum. So.. and circumnavigate the building three times! Then go inside and clockwise, circumnavigate each room through out the whole building/house! Actually, I think this is done first, then circumnavigate the whole house, outside, so your neighbors can see, three times. No moaning sounds please! Just the lights, the incense, the bell, and maybe even some holy water! That’s what you should be doing right now! Not feeding all those chocolate hungry idiot kids!
- If you are in HotConference for the one dollar trial, then take heed:
“This is just a reminder. If you are in HotConference at the $1 trial, this trial is only for 30 days. At the end of 30 days you will be billed for 5 rooms at full price. In order to be billed for 1 room only you need to send a ticket to the HelpDesk at the HotConference website and ask them to bill you for one room only when your $1 trial is over.”
- (T-4.I.11)"I do not attack your ego. I do work with your higher mind, the home of the Holy Spirit, whether you are asleep or awake, just as your ego does with your lower mind, which is its home. I am your vigilance in this, because you are too confused to recognize your own hope. I am not mistaken. Your mind will elect to join with mine, and together we are invincible. You and your brother will yet come together in my name, and your sanity will be restored. I raised the dead by knowing that life is an eternal attribute of everything that the living God created. Why do you believe it is harder for me to inspire the dis-spirited or to stabilize the unstable? I do not believe that there is an order of difficulty in miracles; you do. I have called and you will answer. I understand that miracles are natural, bec
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